Posted on 01/30/2016 6:28:10 PM PST by Zhang Fei
The act of comparing Trump University to Wharton suggests that Trump is not what you might call a straight-shooter - that he'll say anything if that helps him get ahead, regardless of whether or not it's true. At the risk of understatement, there is some relevance to his quest for the presidency.
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I will say up front I am supporting Trump and I did know about this lawsuit. I will admit that I do not know the particulars of the case and do not know if the government brought the suit, or the students or if the Justice Department or other entities trolled students to bring suit.
I will say that Trump needs to get this behind him very quickly, or at the very least put out the relevant facts of the case via PR so that the court of public opinion doesn’t get turned. And I will offer that Trump University might very well be guilty as charged. I don’t know. I don;t know if Trump personally set up the school/s or just lent his name to it and did some promotion. I do know that he has lent his name to particular projects for a fee. Its a branding license type of thing.
So, before everyone gets all jacked up...maybe all the relevant facts need to be brought out to light. I know that I will be checking it out....
Jeez, does this mean that Yeb! is now are chosen one? I feel so much like Charlie Brown.
More BS coming out of the communists sick mind.
The conservatives who have an issue with Trump don't have problem with his table manners or his position papers, although his table manners could be better. What they don't like is his willingness to engage in all kinds of ethically-challenged endeavors, ranging from eminent domain, operating casinos and running a diploma mill and his penchant for philandering. It's a question of trust. Why would an ethnically challenged individual whose entire record is of liberal statements be believable if he starts saying conservative things while running for the GOP nomination?
Donald Trump Sued for Fraud N Y Attorney General Says Trump University Students 'Fleeced'
Trump's University Students Taught How To Swindle Trump University Students
He can release them right after 0hbama releases his school records.
Didn’t he scam these folks to the tune of 40 million or so?
Don’t know the figure.
Look, I consider myself a conservative. I know about eminent domain. I disagreed with the Kelo decision but that was decision was post Trump’s action. As a businessman he pursued his legal angles as he saw fit and in the end lost. The house stood. I understand it is not standing now, but not due to Trump.
As for him building casinos, again I do not have a problem with that either. That would fall under the category perhaps of a social conservative issue. I do believe that the issue of gambling is best left up to the states and only fools gamble online. Of course I do know that Federal Law permits Indian tribes to build casinos and that they have and for us and our business, we use them as great places to stop and eat and spend the night between locations. We travel much in our business and a 10 buck crab dinner is great. That aside...
Philandering....I frown on that. But then again...That is something the voter will have to take into consideration. It did happen prior to his deciding to run so the voter knows all about it.
Now, as to regards to Trump University. LIke I said, I do not know all the facts and the article listed provided few. I mean really, taking money for a course that may or may not pan out be considered elder abuse? Did Trump oversell the product. Maybe, I don’t know.
IMHO, Currently in the republican party there is no candidate that will appeal in the general except for Trump. I can understand why a lot of folks here on FR support Cruz , but this country is so far gone that that shift will not happen in one election. I am hoping beyond hope that Trump can do just three things. Build the Wall (and the in the process take care of the inherent immigration problem), 2) create an atmosphere for job creation (which solves a myriad of other problems, and 3) to create a path where a more conservative candidate can take over once the pragmatic approach has been used.
America is not going to go back to the constitution in one election. Cruz is not ready, for a variety of reasons. Idealogically, (sp) he speaks the lingo, but America is tired of all the talk-talk. Trump presidency could begin the process of showing Americans the path to freedom from PC (and its inherent marxist underpinnings) There are other reasons too, but we can discuss those later.
I understand that I take a chance with Trump, a great chance. But listening to the repeat of the Thursday night debate while working down in the barn today all I heard was talk-talk. Trump does answer with a quick yes or no. The candidates (Cruz) talked about how the debate is one which covers policy etc...My gawd...do you remember Alpha Gore storming around the stage blathering about the Dingle-Norwood bill and the Lock Box? Folks could really care less about all the in the weeds stuff. We elect vision first and policy second. Trump is at least providing vision. (an addition here...the battle is one between the Globalists and the Nationalists. It is no longer a left-right issue. The candidates on the debate platform Thursday to a man would support the Globalist agenda. And I include Cruz in that equation due to the fact his wife worked on and signed off on the NAU position paper.)
On an aside, while I listened to the debate...many of the answers reflected Trump’s positions all down the line. At least he has moved the Overton Window.
Anyway, thanks for the chat and take care.
I don’t think Dale Carnegie claimed that you’d get a quality education beyond the courses he offered. Trump was saying that his education carries a certain credential that can be compared to Wharton. That’s different.
Oh Noes, I can not vote for Trump now!
And the media are already going wild:
Threatening and extortionate? The mailer merely reminds caucus participants that non-participation is a matter of public record, and exhorts them to go vote, lest they look less than civic-minded to their neighbors.
“The mailer merely reminds caucus participants that non-participation is a matter of public record”
“merely reminds”
yeah, right.
You’d be a pretty good propagandists in the old soviet union.
The final sentence of that letter THREATENS to EXPOSE you and your neighbors caucus attendance TO EACH OTHER AFTER THE CAUCUS if you don’t attend, as follows: “A follow-up notice may be issued following Monday’s caucuses.”
That sentence is NOT a “mere reminder”. It’s a bald-faced THREAT that serves no useful get-out-the-vote purpose since it’s AFTER the caucus. It’s sole purpose is to frighten people.
Here's the thing - it's a matter of public record. It's not as if he's threatening to expose the buyers of sexual aids - it's a caucus attendance record, and caucus votes are held by secret ballot. At worst, this mailer is annoying. It is certainly nothing like Trump's creation of a diploma mill, that benefited him personally to the tune of millions, that he claimed was comparable to a Wharton education, and nothing like Trump's opening of casinos to prey on the stupid (i.e. low IQ), the gullible (i.e. low IQ) and the obsessive compulsive disorder sufferers among the American population.
It’s hard to keep up with all the scams in Trump’s biography. Now, he’s entered the political racket with the biggest scam of all.
I’m for Trump, but I don’t like this.
I also don’t like private and public financial aid offices routinely making similar promises and pushing kids and their parents into non-dischargable loans when there’s little chance of a job waiting. National average in 2014 $25K(-/+) per student, significantly higher than the average “damages” in the politically motivated case against Trump which will most likely go nowhere.
It doesn’t excuse Trump’s involvement is a similar endeavor, but it needs to be considered in context.
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