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1 posted on 01/29/2016 9:36:34 PM PST by drewh
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Bloomberg hired Luntz to do this poll. That’s why Luntz is so excited about Bloomers in his comments.

I like to see the geographic distribution of those polled. I think that’s how he produced those numbers.


36 posted on 01/29/2016 10:24:03 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Trump and/or Cruz, it's all good)
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The survey found that 29% of Americans would support Bloomberg in a theoretical three-way race between the former mayor, GOP front-runner Donald Trump, and Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton. Trump would receive 37% of the vote, while Clinton would emerge with 33%.

That is pretty amazing. Bloomberg hasn't even started campaigning. Biographically, he kicks Hillary's and Trump's collective butts. But ideologically, he's neither fish nor fowl. He's a fiscal conservative, a law-and-order pol, liberal on social issues but probably a bit too paternalistic for both right and left. Still nobody can accuse Bloomberg of being sleazy, an adjective that applies to both Trump and Clinton. It would be an election between two sleazoids and an NYC mayor whose major failing is being a control freak (2nd Amendment and 16 oz fast food sodas).

He would probably capture the fiscally conservative and socially liberal Republicans and Democrats repelled by Trump's anti-immigrant and protectionistic manifesto. He might even get socially- and economically-conservative Republicans who don't like the fact that Trump operated casinos and a diploma mill and is a notorious philanderer who's gone through two divorces and has boasted of committing adultery with multiple women. He'd also get a substantial chunk of the Asian vote and the black and Hispanic vote that believes in free enterprise but don't like either Trump or Hillary.

Bloomberg narrowly won his 3rd NYC mayoral term, but he did so in a city that is 50% black and Hispanic, which is to say he probably got most of the white and Asian vote.

Bloomberg did better among Asian-American voters than he did in the city as a whole, with 62 percent of Asian Americans supporting Bloomberg, AALDEF said.

Bloomberg floored the gas pedal on campaign expenditures throughout, never letting up in spite of polls showing the election to be a blowout in his favor:

More than three months ago, Bruce N. Gyory was telling anyone who would listen, including advisers to both mayoral campaigns, that while Michael R. Bloomberg was favored to win, his margin would not be more than five to seven percentage points.

Mr. Gyory, a lobbyist, political consultant and aide to three New York governors, was convinced that the race would not be the blowout predicted by numerous polls, precisely because of what the polls themselves consistently revealed: The percentage of New Yorkers who said they would vote for Mr. Bloomberg barely climbed above 50.

Apparently, the only people who listened worked for Mr. Bloomberg. One after another, independent public opinion polls suggested that the mayor enjoyed a 16 to 18 point lead (a survey released the day before the Nov. 3 election said his lead was 12 percentage points) and was virtually invincible.

That the Bloomberg campaign was not heeding those polls was evident in its lavish spending on advertising and its relentless criticism of the Democratic challenger, William C. Thompson Jr., the city’s comptroller.

Bloomberg may lack charisma, but he's a fairly canny political operator, and obviously no dummy business-wise, given his $38.6b self-made fortune and #8 ranking in the Forbes 400 (vs Trump's $4.5b and #121 ranking).

38 posted on 01/29/2016 10:26:08 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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Well, that’ll suck the life outta the liberals...or are they trying to pull away the “New York Values” hoplophobic sodaphobes.


40 posted on 01/29/2016 10:39:43 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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If Luntz were accurate that would mean that Bloomberg would be a Dem stalking horse for Trump and a certainty the Trump would be elected.

They're making spin up so fast these days that they don't even think it through.

41 posted on 01/29/2016 10:42:32 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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They have tried everything else.

Luntz should be checked for indecency. This probably arouses him.


42 posted on 01/29/2016 10:45:32 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Free Republic Caucus: vote daily / watch for the thread / Starts 01/20 midnight to midnight EST)
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Absurd. The hyper-entitled Bloomberg would be a snoozefest when- and wherever he’d speak. Ben Carson would look unbearably exciting next to Bloomberg.


44 posted on 01/29/2016 10:56:35 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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Who in their right minds would believe that Bloomberg could get 10 per cent more than Ross Perot’s 19?


47 posted on 01/29/2016 11:12:27 PM PST by map
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I don’t believe that 62% of Americans would vote for gun confiscation.


48 posted on 01/30/2016 12:03:09 AM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man St anding.)
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Maintain my two cent opinion since 2012 that Hillary will NOT be the Rat candidate.


50 posted on 01/30/2016 12:26:25 AM PST by Rockpile (GOP legislators-----caviar eating surrender monkeys.)
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Had this exact debate with a lib friend yesterday. He said Bloomberg is a Republican. I said, “sure. here in NYC which is a liberal to the rest of the country.”


51 posted on 01/30/2016 1:20:30 AM PST by wiggen (#JeSuisCharlie)
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I hope the old queen runs!


57 posted on 01/30/2016 3:55:55 AM PST by patq
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Bloomberg bought New York City with a lot of money. His act won’t play in a national election.


59 posted on 01/30/2016 4:34:51 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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Not saying he is wrong about this, just want to add: I detest Luntz.


62 posted on 01/30/2016 4:40:00 AM PST by samtheman (Elect Trump, Build Wall. End Censorship.)
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I think State Legislatures should meet this Spring and determine their rules for plurality results on November 8.

There’s nothing that says electors should be appointed with less than 50% of the popular vote.


63 posted on 01/30/2016 4:45:19 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at all.)
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Frank here’s an idea; how about asking some people who don’t live in Manhattan what they think of Bloomberg? Of again you have made a science of producing out-liers.


64 posted on 01/30/2016 5:08:28 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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Blooie could jump into the race as a Republican and make a tremendous media splash and Trump would sail on unaffected. Or, if the Sultan or his Vizier have determined to indict and remove Mrs. Bill he could enter as a Democrat and make that splash. He would certainly bring excitement to the process but would, even as a Democrat, not affect Trump terribly much. Bloom is a top tier financier. Trump is a top of the line Developer. Different instincts are involved and the Developer skills will trump the money-mover.


69 posted on 01/30/2016 6:02:31 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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After Hillary (or Bernie) and Trump inform America that Bloomberg banned large sodas in New York City he'll be lucky to get five percent.

He's Mike Dukakis without the charisma.

72 posted on 01/30/2016 9:25:44 AM PST by MaxFlint
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I don’t know how Bloomberg would overcome his New York Values. No way he could win!


73 posted on 01/30/2016 10:04:22 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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The VAST majority of Americans don’t know who Bloomberg is and don’t care.


79 posted on 01/30/2016 6:45:02 PM PST by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL!)
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