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Donald Trump defends Vladimir Putin over Alexander Litvinenko murder
The Telegraph ^ | January 26, 2016 | Nick Allen

Posted on 01/26/2016 2:01:35 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: ETL

Ironic since your posts are spam and you actively troll. So whose army of trolls are you working for?


101 posted on 01/26/2016 3:07:25 PM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: Trumpinator

You mean Trump-Putin 2016, don’t you?


102 posted on 01/26/2016 3:07:40 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: Trumpinator

You forgot to include a pretty relevant part of the article you linked:

“A USA Today article notes that: “In a note on the site, United Nuclear founder Bob Lazar says it’s not a practical poison: You’d need 15,000 orders from him, more than $1 million worth, to potentially harm anyone, and each order comes electroplated on the inside of the eye of a needle.””

An honest mistake on your part, I’m sure.


103 posted on 01/26/2016 3:11:17 PM PST by dem bums
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To: dem bums

If he could obtain quantities for sale - then it is not so hard to come by is it?


104 posted on 01/26/2016 3:12:28 PM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: Trumpinator

Lol, whatever you say Josef.


105 posted on 01/26/2016 3:14:11 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: ETL

Exactly right. New boss same as the old boss.


106 posted on 01/26/2016 3:14:17 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: ETL

>> FR Putinistas don’t necessarily have to be actually working for Russia (getting paid for it) <<

Yeah, but when they “protesteth too much,” you gotta wonder.


107 posted on 01/26/2016 3:14:36 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: jwalsh07
Putin is a KGB murdering thug who loves Stalin.

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"Putin said Stalin deserves statues in his honor"

http://en.ria.ru/russia/20131219/185734707/Putin-Says-Stalin-No-Worse-Than-Cunning-Oliver-Cromwell.html
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"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the [20th] century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...

"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'..."

"The more I see and read about Mr. Putin, in power since 1999, and his 'managed democracy,' the more apprehensive I become about the future of Russia and the safety of its neighbors.

If Putin believes that the dissolution of the Soviet Union into 15 independent states represents the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century,' then it follows that Putin might well believe he should do something to repair the loss..."

http://web.archive.org/web/20090415000000*/http://www.hooverdigest.org/053/beichman.html
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"The demise of the Soviet Union was the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century'," Putin said in 2005.

http://www.thetrumpet.com/article/11102.30640.0.0/asia/moscow-puts-the-soviet-squeeze-on-neighbor-nations
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"'The Black Book of Communism,'; a scholarly accounting of communism's crimes, counts about 94 million murdered by the supposed champions of the common man (20 million for the Soviets alone), and some say that number is too low."

Forgetting the Evils of Communism: The amnesia bites a little deeper
By Jonah Goldberg, August 2008:
http://web.archive.org/web/20100711090651/http://article.nationalreview.com/365528/forgetting-the-evils-of-communism/jonah-goldberg
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"The demise of the Soviet Union was the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century'," Putin said in 2005.

"Putin said Stalin deserves statues in his honor"

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Putin, once critical of Stalin, now embraces Soviet dictator's tactics

Carol J. Williams, reporting from Moscow
June 11, 2015

Only six years ago, President Vladimir Putin visited the Polish port of Gdansk, birthplace of the Solidarity movement that threw off Soviet domination, and reassured his Eastern European neighbors that Russia had only friendly intentions.

Putin spoke harshly that day of the notorious World War II-era pact that former Soviet leader Josef Stalin had signed with Adolf Hitler -- an agreement that cleared the way for the Nazi occupation of Poland and Soviet domination of the Baltics -- calling it a "collusion to solve one's problems at others' expense."

But Putin's view of history appears to have undergone a startling transformation. Last month, the Russian leader praised the 1939 nonaggression accord with Hitler as a clever maneuver that forestalled war with Germany. Stalin's 29-year reign, generally seen by Russians in recent years as a dark and bloody chapter in the nation's history, has lately been applauded by Putin and his supporters as the foundation on which the great Soviet superpower was built.

Across a resurgent Russia, Stalin lives again, at least in the minds and hearts of Russian nationalists who see Putin as heir to the former dictator's model of iron-fisted rule.

Recent tributes celebrate Stalin's military command acumen and geopolitical prowess. His ruthless repression of enemies, real and imagined, has been brushed aside by today's Kremlin leader as the cost to be paid for defeating the Nazis.

As Putin has sought to recover territory lost in the 1991 Soviet breakup, his Stalinesque claim to a right to a "sphere of influence" has allowed him to legitimize the seizure of Crimea from Ukraine and declare an obligation to defend Russians and Russian speakers beyond his nation's borders.

On May 9, the 70th anniversary of the Allied war victory was marked and Stalin's image was put on display with glorifying war films, T-shirts, billboards and posters. Framed portraits of the mustachioed generalissimo were carried by marchers in Red Square's Victory Day parade and in the million-strong civic procession that followed to honor all who fell in what Russians call the Great Patriotic War.

Putin's embrace of Stalin's power-play tactics is applauded by many Russians and other former Soviet citizens as the sort of decisive leadership they longed for while watching communism collapse around them. To the proponents of a reinvigorated Russia, reformist Mikhail Gorbachev and his successor, Boris Yeltsin, are seen as having submitted Russia to Western domination.

Over the last year, Russian President Vladimir Putin has presented dictator Josef Stalin's bloody 29-year reign as the foundation on which the Soviet superpower was built.

Stalin lives again, at least in minds and hearts.

Stalin "kept us all together, there was a friendship of nations, and without him everything fell apart," said Suliko Megrelidze, a 79-year-old native of Stalin's Georgian birthplace who sells dried fruit and spices at a farmers market. "We need someone like him if we want peace and freedom from those fascists in Europe and America."

Such sentiments are no longer confined to those with actual memories of the Stalin era. A poll this spring by the independent Levada Center found 39% of respondents had a positive opinion of Stalin. As to the millions killed, 45% of those surveyed agreed that the deaths could be justified for the greater accomplishments of winning the war, building modern industries and growing to eventually give their U.S. nemesis a battle for supremacy in the arms race and conquering outer space.

The share of Russians who look back approvingly has been increasing steadily in recent years, and the segment of those who tell pollsters they have no opinion on his place in their history has shot up even more sharply, said Denis Volkov, a sociologist with the Levada Center.

He points to this year's massive Victory Day events as the Kremlin's message to ungrateful neighbors that they owe their peace and prosperity to the wartime deaths of more than 20 million Soviet citizens.

"The figure of Stalin is being justified through the war," Volkov said. "There is an attitude now that, yes, there were repressions and, yes, there were huge losses, but we won the war after all."

Victory exonerated Stalin's excesses, just as it does Putin's "strongman" posture toward neighbors and former Soviet subjects now outside the Russian Federation's borders, Volkov said.

Stalin's standing among his countrymen has waxed and waned with the political upheavals that have wracked the Soviet Union and Russia. He was so dominant a figure in Soviet citizens' lives by the time of his death on March 5, 1953, that hundreds of thousands poured into the streets of Moscow in a chaotic outbreak of mourning when word of his passing reached a public taught to believe that life was impossible without Stalin -- the Bolshevik nom de guerre he adopted, signifying "man of steel."

Nikita Khrushchev, who finally prevailed in attaining the leadership after five years of Kremlin infighting, began a campaign of de-Stalinization in 1961, moving Stalin's embalmed remains from public display next to Vladimir Lenin's to a less prominent grave near the Kremlin wall. Stalingrad, the hero city that symbolized the Soviets' watershed battle to turn back the Nazis, was renamed Volgograd, and statues and busts were removed, and streets, institutes and schools were renamed.

But the erasure of Stalin's name and likeness served also to stifle discussion of his vast crimes: Siberian exile or death sentences for political opponents, collectivization of agriculture during which millions starved, deportation of minorities and property seizures that impoverished generations. It wasn't until Gorbachev came to power in 1985 that a candid recounting of his era was attempted.

Even Putin, earlier in his presidency, fell in line with the collective spirit of criticism of Stalin’s errors. During the visit to Poland in 2009, a year after he had sent troops to seize territory in sovereign Georgia, Putin appeared to reassure Russia's nervous neighbors that the nonaggression pact that paved the way for war and division 70 years earlier was to be remembered as immoral.

The Aug. 23, 1939, Molotov-Ribbentrop pact's secret protocols doomed Poland to Nazi occupation a week later and gave the Baltic states and parts of Finland and Romania to the Soviet Union. Millions of citizens of those betrayed territories died at Stalin's hand, in political purges, summary executions and slave labor camps.

The scope of Stalin's brutality remains a topic of heated debate. Late Nobel laureate Alexander Solzhenitsyn once claimed in an interview that as many as 110 million died from the dictator's vast array of repressions between 1921 and 1959, including prisoners who succumbed long after Stalin's reign. Historian Viktor Zemkov, at the other extreme, puts the number of deaths attributable to Stalin at 1.4 million.

"The estimates of 110 million to 1.4 million speak for themselves -- a hundredfold disagreement," said Dmitry Lyskov, a state television talk-show host who mounted a failed campaign four years ago to put Stalin's visage on city buses to commemorate Victory Day.

The Russian Military-Historical Society, established by Putin in 2012, announced this year that a new Stalin museum was to open in May in the village of Khoroshevo, 140 miles northeast of Moscow. Stalin spent the night of Aug. 4, 1943, in a small wooden home there, the closest he came to visiting frontline Soviet troops during the four-year fight to defeat Germany.

The sanitized exhibits recounting Stalin's contributions to the war effort and postwar recovery were ready by the planned May 9 holiday. But the opening was postponed amid local opposition led by the Tver regional leader of Memorial, a group dedicated to shedding light on Russia's totalitarian era.

Yan Rachinsky, a leader of Memorial's Moscow chapter, calls the museum "ridiculous," and Stalin's single night there irrelevant to the war victory two years later.

The stillborn museum was one of several official efforts to honor Stalin this year: A statue was erected in the southern city of Lipetsk, and splashed with red paint the night it was unveiled. A bronze likeness of the dictator was put up to mark the February anniversary of his 1945 meeting with British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and President Franklin D. Roosevelt at Yalta, a Black Sea resort now inaccessible to most of the world as only Russian aviation serves the contested Crimean peninsula.

Stalin has weathered more than six decades of historical revisions to maintain his standing as a rival to the West, "which is the context in which he interests Putin," said Nikolai Svanidze, a writer and historian whose grandfathers died in Stalin’s political purges.

"Just as Stalin defeated the West 70 years ago by capturing half of Europe," Svanidze said, "we are defeating the West again today. Crimea is our Berlin, our Reichstag, and there is no way it will be restored to Ukraine in the foreseeable future."

Svanidze also predicts there will be no more credible elections as long as Putin chooses to stay in power. That, he said, is another parallel with Stalin's lifetime sinecure as Soviet leader.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-russia-stalin-model-20150611-story.html

108 posted on 01/26/2016 3:16:10 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: dem bums

Trumpinator and Putin are going to get Communism right this time!


109 posted on 01/26/2016 3:16:12 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: dem bums
Easier to get than you think:

http://www.firstpost.com/living/polonium-210-all-you-need-to-know-about-the-poison-that-killed-sunanda-pushkar-2032695.html

Polonium-210: All you need to know about the poison that killed Sunanda Pushkar

It's official. The Delhi police has confirmed that Sunanda Pushkar, the late wife of Congress leader and Thiruvananthapuram MP Shashi Tharoor was poisoned to death on 17 January 2014. The autopsy report also refers to Polonium-210, a highly hazardous poison that might have been used to kill Sunanda.

110 posted on 01/26/2016 3:16:13 PM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: Hawthorn

No doubt some of these SOBs are actual Russian-paid trolls.


111 posted on 01/26/2016 3:17:28 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: ETL

All the evidence I need is in the text books of Russian children. Putin is rehabilitating Stalin. There is no question any more.


112 posted on 01/26/2016 3:18:59 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Trumpinator
I just posted an article from yesterday where Putin denounced the entire communist system - thus disproving your assertion.

The guy was a KGB agent for 16 friggin years! The KGB and their modern counterpart the FSB were/are the grand masters of deception.

113 posted on 01/26/2016 3:21:16 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

What you just posted about Trump making fun of a disabled reporter is NOT TRUE according to the following video which was posted on another thread:
See 33:39-37:00.

https://vimeo.com/12926194

It also addresses what you posted about Putin at 48:20.

Not helpful posting stuff GOPe and mainstream media is pushing.


114 posted on 01/26/2016 3:21:27 PM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: Trumpinator

Syria is part of the Soviet/Russian created global terror network. The Saudis who were put on those planes were almost certainly put there in an attempt to direct the blowback from 911 to Al-Qaida’s hated enemy, Saudi Arabia.


115 posted on 01/26/2016 3:22:57 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: ETL
Nature abhors a vacumm.
Go Trump
116 posted on 01/26/2016 3:29:18 PM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: jwalsh07

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/gulag-archipelago-joins-russian-curriculum-1.825588

Gulag Archipelago joins Russian curriculum

The Gulag Archipelago, once banned because of its portrayal of Soviet dissidents serving time in prison camps, is now required reading in Russian high schools.

Parts of Alexander Solzhenitsyn’s 1973 epic were added to the high school curriculum in a decision Wednesday by the Education Ministry.

The Education Ministry lauded the book for showing young students “vital historical and cultural heritage on the course of 20th-century domestic history.”

The Gulag Archipelago is an unflinching account of torment and survival in the Soviet Union’s gulag of camps that were filled with dissidents under Stalin.

The late Solzhenitsyn was one of those prisoners, sentenced in 1945 for writing comments critical of Stalin in a personal letter to a friend.

His novel shocked Russians by exposing the inhumanity and extent of the camps. Published in the West in 1973, it was banned in the Soviet Union and circulated in underground circles.

Solzhenitsyn spent 20 years in exile, and only returned to Russia in the early 1990s, after the country restored the citizenship it had revoked during his years overseas. He had been restored as a national hero before he died Aug. 3, 2008.

Russians students already study One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich, his first-person account of life in a prison camp.

Matryona’s Place, a novella about a freed prisoner on a collective farm that is also critical of the Soviet system, is also on high school reading lists.


117 posted on 01/26/2016 3:31:06 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Trumpinator

Here’s the full report:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/493860/The-Litvinenko-Inquiry-H-C-695-web.pdf

Once you’ve read the whole thing (I can wait), then you come back here and tell us there’s no evidence of Putin’s involvement.

Do you think Trump has read the report?


118 posted on 01/26/2016 3:35:12 PM PST by dem bums
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To: MotorCityBuck
Nature abhors a vacuum.

Is that why you're an airhead? (joking, sort of)

119 posted on 01/26/2016 3:38:25 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Nope. Trump had better keep his distance from Putin, because Putin will use Trump and toss him aside when it is convenient to putin.


120 posted on 01/26/2016 3:44:15 PM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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