Watch: Donald Trump Offers His Definition of Conservatism

breitbart ^ | 24 Jan 2016 | by Pam Key

[Walt Griffith]

Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation," Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump gave his definition of a conservative.

Partial transcript s follows:

DICKERSON: "What is your definition of conservative?"

TRUMP: "Well, I think it's a person that doesn't want to take risks.

Source: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/01/24/trump-6/

[D-fendr]

Seems a good place to repost this.

Milton Friedman’s “Free to Choose” tv series is online here:

http://www.freetochoose.tv/ftc80.php

Reagan introduces the segment on “Freedom and Prosperity” here:

http://www.freetochoose.tv/program.php?id=ftc1990_3&series=ftc90

Anyone who has a teenager, college student, friend that might be interest, please share.

[MarDav]

Yeah, I know...

[chris37]

I am afraid that I don’t see the future turning out well for America. Hopefully, I am wrong.

I don’t think that any leader is going to be able to right the ship, there is just far too much going wrong.

The main root of the problem is that as a free people we did not instill in our younger generations why we are free, how we became free, the cost of becoming free and what is required to remain free.

Instead it seems like we assumed it would always remain as such, but those who prefer control began to plot how to change it all from within, and at this point they are wildly successful.

Instead of teaching our children to love their country and our freedom, our system of education has taught them the exact opposite on purpose.

The end result is we have those who know the value and price of freedom on the far end of the age scale, and when they die, they are not going to be replaced.

Instead we have perhaps 2-3 generations, if not more, who know nothing about anything, and for all intents and purposes, either do not like or are ashamed of their country. And now they are raising children who are in turn learning even more poisonous types of philosophies.

On top of that dynamic, we have our government importing as many aliens as it can, and these aliens do not know or share our values, they do not care about our history at all, in fact many are hostile to us.

If these trends continue, which seems very likely, America as she once was will never be again.

Once the people that remember her as she was and what made her that way die, she basically no longer exists.

I wish I could be more positive in my outlook, but I can’t see how to reverse course.

[D-fendr]

This is over 35 years ago and it is even more relevant today. Milton Friedman on Phil Donahue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi-D24oCa10

For those too young to remember, Donahue was the *first* topical talk show host. Extremely hip and popular and espoused the *new* liberalism of the young.

Here’s he’s trying to make the exact same points as Obama and Hillary, Sanders.

It’s so basic to rebut, yet we don’t hear it rebutted this way today. Worth a watch if you haven’t seen it before.

[dschapin]

Yup, Trump seems to have the same New York brand of Values that Rudy tried to bring to the GOP. Basically stripping away the small government and socially conservative heart of the GOP.

[dschapin]

The answer to your question is that no a lot of posters here don’t listen to what Trump actually says and they absolutely scream murder when anyone starts digging into his liberal record. Btw, I think you had me confused as a Trump supporter. Any of the major Trump supporters will be glad to verify that I am a Cruz supporter and have a very low opinion of Donald Trump.

[D-fendr]

Thanks very much for your reply.

It certainly looks hopeless, a mountain moving in the wrong direction.

Twenty-five years ago, my brother was convinced that the only thing to do was to find another place and start a new “America.” He might well have been right.

It is odd to feel we are in such a period of both human power and inevitable decline; but I know this is not really new, not in history.

I’m grateful to have lived in relatively good times and long enough to see anything happen, whatever will be. :)

thanks for your reply and conversation. all the best to you and yours...

[dschapin]

Agreed. He just demonstrated that he doesn’t even understand conservatism well enough to effectively fake being one.

[dschapin]

A balanced budget can be accomplished either through higher taxes or through cutting the government. Trump has not suggested any significant parts of the government that he wants to cut. Trump also seems to care nothing about keeping the federal governments powers limited vis a vis the states. Finally Trump has given a little lip service to social issues but I don’t think anyone thinks he cares about them any more than he has too to get the nomination. Basically, supporting Trump is supporting cutting social conservatives out of the GOP.

[chris37]

“Twenty-five years ago, my brother was convinced that the only thing to do was to find another place and start a new “America.” He might well have been right.”

I have thought the same. My fear is that as soon as such a place would exist, those who hate freedom and love control will infiltrate and begin their plots within anew.

Something that seems it may be a law in this world is that as soon as a man declares that he is free, he must then protect his freedom from other men everyday for the rest of his life, or he will cease to be free.

Man is obsessed with controlling other men.

I too am grateful for the time I have spent in this life as a free man, and I thank God for giving me that time. I suspect that in the future, far fewer people will know what that was like.

Thank you too, D-fendr, God Bless America.

[JediJones]

You’re misunderstanding several things.

I’m talking about Social Security and Medicare entitlements, the ones given to older people. It’s those entitlements that ONLY younger people can pay into. And that is one reason why modern countries’ governments want to bring in immigrants. Illegals’ are likely not collecting on those entitlements for the elderly, just plenty of others that they shouldn’t be allowed to.

Trump has said he doesn’t want to reform Social Security or Medicare, so we’re stuck with them and finding a way to fund them. An increased birth rate is what I’m suggesting, not more immigration. We need our more traditional values back to encourage a higher birth rate. That’s what made our country successful and a low birth rate is what kills off modern countries and encourages an immigrant invasion. Just look to Europe to see our near-future in advance.

There are plenty of wealthy or well-off, educated, progressive young people who are CHOOSING not to have children. You can’t blame it all on people not having money. It’s a question of values.

I didn’t say any Republican can balance the budget, I said any Republican would cut waste and abuse if they can find it. Trump has no plan to balance the budget and I don’t know if any Republican does. I haven’t heard it discussed much lately. Absolutely both parties are at fault for blowing up the budget. But Trump hasn’t talked about any significant cuts. He wants to spend more on the military and not reform Medicare or Social Security. I haven’t heard him or anyone say where his tax plan creates a balanced budget. He’s hoping that the economy grows enough to bring in enough revenue at his lower tax rate, but that’s what Republicans have been promising forever and it never seems to materialize. You can’t just hope for more revenue. Republicans have to man up and make CUTS to the budget. The sequester has been the best cut we’ve ever had and many Republicans have worked tirelessly to repeal the sequester.

I have no information related to the labeling of meat, but like with any of these trade deal issues, I can’t think of a lower priority on my policy agenda list than the labeling of meat.

[woofie]

At this point I have no idea what i was thinking but if I did think you were a Trump supporter I apologize

[JediJones]

he is not a natural born citizen as the founders understood and used the term.

Absolutely not true. Before our country was founded, the term natural-born in England included citizens born outside the country to English citizens. That is the common understanding at the time. No part of the term "natural-born" has any reference to geography. If they wanted it to mean citizens born on U.S. territory, they would have said so. By not writing anything about geography, the Constitution therefore includes anyone who is born an automatic citizen, like Cruz.

Not to mention, since you only have to be on U.S. soil for 14 years to be president, no matter your age, the founders obviously weren't obsessively concerned about your geographical location.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause

The use of the phrase "natural born" was not without precedent. Statutes in England prior to American independence used the phrase "natural born subject". For example, the British Foreign Protestants Naturalization Act 1708:[10][11]

The children of all natural born subjects born out of the ligeance [i.e. out of England] of Her Majesty Her Heirs and Successors shall be deemed and adjudged to be natural born subjects of this Kingdom to all intents, constructions, and purposes whatsoever.

[Mollypitcher1]

You are misunderstanding several things. Evidently you are young. You are speaking of Social Security and Medicare s “Entitlkements GIVEN to older people.” Let’s stop right there. The recipients of Social Security have been paying into the Social Security bucket for their ENTIRE working lives AND the EMPLOYER has paid an equal amount into the social security bucket dollar for dollar with the worker. That is NOT an entitlement! That is a return on investment which unfortunately was forced on people but that’s the way it is.. Same with Medicare and medicare recipients continue to pay into Medicare every single month as long as they live. It is a far cry from the FREEBIES which are entitlements and unearned in any way. there is a HUGE difference.

It is very late and I am tired. I will finish this discussion tomorrow. Perhaps you will alter your viewpoint when you have the facts and not a politicians campaign talking points. I would hope so. ‘Til tomorrow.

[JediJones]

The term “entitlement” is used whether or not you paid into it.

Also, the payouts of SS and Medicare far exceed what was paid into it. That’s the essential problem of the programs. They’re pyramid schemes that go bankrupt unless you constantly have new people (younger people in these cases) paying into them.

[Walt Griffith]

It so good that people here want to talk about what the US Constitution says about who can be president, so let’s get right to it:

The United States Constitution.

Article. I.
Section. 1.
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.
Section. 8.
Clause 4
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

Article. II.
Section. 1.
Clause 5
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

(1A)
No Person except a natural born Citizen, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President

or
(1B)
A Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President

and
(2)
Neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

[Bulwyf]

We form a new country. Instead of a west-east border at the 49th parallel, we have a north-south. Take western Canada, Yukon, Alaska into one. All the resource rich states, and cleanse California.

One can dream right?

[Bulwyf]

It’s the same in canuckistan, single payer system and everything going out far exceeds what goes in. It’s also the case with Canada pension plan and old age security. It’s all a bloody scam. If people realized they could keep their money for themselves and invest it instead of giving it away, they’d be way further ahead.

[Uncle Miltie]

Do some homework or be quiet.

[traderrob6]

“Freedom is risky”

I was kidding with you but since you got snippy I’ll serious it up.

Why would you imply with your original post that “conservatism” is incompatible with the furtherment of the cause of freedom?