You might be wrong about "the youth". I hope you are.
Also, to me faith is much more like a rocket than a parachute. Not knocking your parachute. 
Posted on 01/25/2016 10:47:54 AM PST by mandaladon
According to presidential candidate and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, there's one thing that more important to him than the country he's running to lead: his God.
In a remarkable exchange in New Hampshire, Politico reports, Cruz told reporters "I'm a Christian first, American second, conservative third and Republican fourth."
"I'll tell ya, there are a whole lot of people in this country that feel exactly the same way," he added.
Cruz, currently ranked second in GOP candidate polls according to RealClearPolitics, enjoys wide support among evangelical Christians in important, early-voting primary states like Iowa, where Cruz is locked in a tight race with current frontrunner Donald Trump. Cruz repeatedly accused Trump and his support of "more deal-making" and enjoying the support of unpopular "establishment" Republicans.
By proclaiming himself a Christian first and an American second, Cruz is professing higher loyalties than the United States — odd for a candidate who has repeatedly accused Muslims of doing much the same thing.
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:) Whoever came up with the idea, it was a dumb one.
The reason one places one's hand on a Bible in order to take that oath, is to call forth as witness the One greater than us all.
Our forefathers called upon that very same Office, greater than themselves, and any court of men, to witness the verity of their intentions, in the Declaration of Independence.
If that is not what that Bible is for, then of what worth is the oath?
No, it is quite the other way around. A deep and abiding faith in the Father is what gives that oath meaning.
Not discussing this with you anymore. Think what you wish.
"I am neither (Democrat or Republican)... I'm a Christocrat" -- Benjamin Rush
Dominionism is not Orthodox Christianity by any stretch of the imagination.
Mainstream Christianity isn’t Orthodox, either.
Maybe you mean ‘’fundamentalist’’.
Mainstream Christians do not generally wear their faith like a badge, beat people over the head with it, or demand that it ‘’inform’’ their governments. (We do, however, like our Nativities- Menorahs welcome!, our Ten Commandments at the courthouse, & for our children to be able to pray, unencumbered, at the beginning of the school day, at lunch if they choose, & at sporting events & commencements or whatever)
Trump has stated that he believes that marriage is between a man and a woman and let’s it go at that, as far as I know. That is a more honest position than trying to appear to act on the problem when in reality he is only dismissing it.
You are correct, it is a battle for our culture, for our existence, and if it is to be won, it has got to be done by the whole nation in an united effort, not split up into fifty efforts that will immediately be overruled by the Federal courts. Gay marriage proponents would just love to have the controversy disappear into fifty state legislatures.
“But then again, you really don’t care about SSM or about Cruz’s position on it...”
Could you explain to me how it is possible for you to discern that about me? Do all Cruz supporters have such supernatural discernment? Can you describe my physical appearance? That should be a lot easier than reading my mind and heart from such a distance, when the average person would think that it is impossible.
God, Family, sex (with my bride) Country, sex (with my bride), Guns, Airstream camp trailer, sex (with my bride), being on the beach, my soon to be new Corvette Stingray, sex (with my bride), all my toys, fishing, playing in the dirt on my tractor, flying my drone, landscaping and, and, and sex (with my bride).
Well, now that I have listed some of my priorities, I won’t need to bring them up AGAIN if I ever run for office.
;>)
Indeed
Actually, Ted is focusing on the part of the issue that the federal government DOES have a role in, protecting the religious liberty of those who do not want to participate. Trump, on the other hand, thinks that those who oppose should lose their jobs (but he graciously thinks they should not go to jail).
Could you explain to me how it is possible for you to discern that about me?
Perhaps because you are attacking Cruz over his position, while you are ignoring Trump's much more liberal position on the same issue. If it was a serious concern to you, you would be pushing Trump and his other supporters hard to make this a priority in his campaign. Instead, you just use it to attack Ted.
“Actually, Ted is focusing on the part of the issue that the federal government DOES have a role in, protecting the religious liberty of those who do not want to participate.
Yes, I noticed that Huckabee and Cruz went their for some grandstanding. Did they accomplish anything?
“If it was a serious concern to you, you would be pushing Trump and his other supporters hard to make this a priority in his campaign. Instead, you just use it to attack Ted.”
The only candidate who actually stated that fighting gay marriage was NOT a priority was none other than Ted Cruz. So before you point the finger at me, you need to push Cruz to make gay marriage a priority in his campaign.
No, but if you’re Catholic you get excommunicated! ;)
You Trump supporters... If they don't try to accomplish anything, you trash them. If they try to do something even if they don't succeed, you trash them. If they support the other side, like Trump, you idolize them.
The only candidate who actually stated that fighting gay marriage was NOT a priority was none other than Ted Cruz. So before you point the finger at me, you need to push Cruz to make gay marriage a priority in his campaign.
Actually, he said it wasn't in the top 3 priorities as president, because THE PRESIDENT CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT ON HIS OWN. He can encourage Congress to do something, but there is nothing the president can do. However the president CAN do something about enforcing religious liberty; he CAN do something about stopping the persecution of conservatives and Christians by the IRS and other agencies; he CAN strictly enforce the laws on immigration, etc. To say that he will focus on things that actually are the duty of the president, rather than on the things that will require a constitutional amendment (which the president has NO role in) is hardly a problem. So if you want to level the playing field on this issue, you need to get Trump to commit to aggressively defending religious freedom with regard to SSM.
You might be wrong about "the youth". I hope you are.
Also, to me faith is much more like a rocket than a parachute. Not knocking your parachute.
This disturbs me - if he wants to be all out for God, then he should not take money from Gay billionaires :(
But you have no problem with the fact that Trump is using money he got from running casinos and strip clubs to run for office...
Your “concern” is duly noted... /s
This comment:
1. Was addressed to someone other than you. I did not attack you—you chose to come at me...typical Cruz defender.
You know, Cruz is my second choice, and I plan to vote for him if he wins the nomination; however, your vitriol makes this increasingly difficult.
2. I did not mention Trump. But if you wish to bring Trump into it FRend, Trump has not positioned himself as the born-again Evangelical Christian candidate to be prayed over by ministers, etc. whose father is a minister, and who has publically taken stand against gay marriage but takes money from Gay Billionaires....I’m sorry I think it stinks.
3. Trump runs casinos? So what. If he does, they are not illegal, and he did not condemn them in political speeches.
3. Forgive my ignorance, but I had no idea Trump runs strip clubs?!?! Care to prove it? I call BS.
Oh, and Frend, my concern should be duly noted. /Sarc NOT.
It seems to me that he is not claiming to any role as spiritual leader but rather telling the electorate that if he is elected as a Christian he will be applying his Christian beliefs to the way he acts and how he governs.
A Christian should not hide his faith under a rock.
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You are correct about not hiding faith.
My reaction, I think, is not necessarily logical, but I believe that lately I’ve become jaded and cynical with most mentions of religion in the public square, especially from politicians.
You Trump supporters? Then you say:
“THE PRESIDENT CAN’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT ON HIS OWN. He can encourage Congress to do something, but there is nothing the president can do.”
AFTER you tell me to push Trump on gay marriage?
You Cruz supporters (some) are insane, not just insane, completely insane.
Follow the reasoning - if you are going to attack Cruz for saying that SSM will not be one of the top three priorities, then to be consistent you should push Trump to make it a top priority.
However, since the president cannot single-handedly end SSM, Cruz is focusing on the area that the president can control, and that is vigorously protecting religious liberty. So if SSM is that important to you, and you accept that the president cannot resolve it on his own, you should at least push Trump to aggressively address the areas where he can have an impact.
But Trump is not doing either, and you are not pushing him to do so - so I must conclude that your concern over the issue is not sincere, and it is just a club you use to attack Cruz.
See how easy that is to follow?
Thanks for proving my point. You are insane. Nothing personal, of course.
And you have proven my point - you are just a Trump cultist who cannot follow basic reason and logic. Nothing personal, of course.
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