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1 posted on 01/23/2016 10:01:45 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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2 posted on 01/23/2016 10:05:31 PM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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“It’s got to be used wisely”.

And your point is?

Btw - that old woman’s house is still standing, so don’t bother. That one has been debunked quite handily.


3 posted on 01/23/2016 10:06:22 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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Tone deaf Trump is close to 50% nationally.


4 posted on 01/23/2016 10:06:29 PM PST by mbrfl
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If The Trump is for eminent domain, then eminent domain is the conservative position.

Get with the program.

What is good for The Trump is good for America.


5 posted on 01/23/2016 10:07:53 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Freepers. The enemy is on the left, not the right!)
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You lost already, its Over.


9 posted on 01/23/2016 10:14:21 PM PST by heights
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Tone-deaf Senator Principled Conservative (TM) campaigns for and casts votes in support of Obama’s legacy trade agenda while pocketing $100,000 in donations from Goldman Sachs.


12 posted on 01/23/2016 10:15:57 PM PST by lodi90 (TRUMP Force 1 lifting off)
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All but a couple of FReepers were for the Keystone Pipeline.

It was a big deal that Obama had blocked it. We called him all sorts of names. I thought he was an idiot. I thought most folks agreed with me.

An then a funny thing happened on the way to the Keystone pipeline.

All of a sudden, many FReepers went ape-s##t on the issue of eminent domain.

Now none of them want Keystone.

What a hoot.

Keystone needs to use private eminent domain just like Trump did. Sorry Keystone, Trump was the kiss of death to you.

All hail the lynching of Trump.


13 posted on 01/23/2016 10:15:58 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Free Republic Caucus: vote daily / watch for the thread / Starts 01/20 midnight to midnight EDST)
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"Where else is eminent domain used? For pipelines. All of these [GOP 2016 candidates] are in favor of the Keystone pipeline," Trump said. "You couldn't build five feet of the Keystone pipeline without eminent domain. It's going through people's farms, it's going through people's houses."

While eminent domain can, in some cases, be used to get pipeline right-of-way, most of it is simply leased from the property owner in a straight-up deal. It is not only quicker for the pipeline company to acquire the right-of-way for a pipeline that way, it is a lot cheaper, too. (Imagine if you had to have a separate court case for every five feet of pipeline).

There is a legal setback from occupied structures for any pipeline, at least in this state (ND), and laws preventing the location of any permanent structure over an existing pipeline.

If those laws are not present in your State, I would suggest them.

Pipelines go through farms, certainly, well below plow depth, marked, and after the right-of-way has been leased. Compensation for crops not produced on that land due to construction is written into the lease deal, as are locations for any monitoring equipment, valves, and surface equipment needed and specifications for those additional features as well. Pipelines don't go through houses (out west, anyway). That's hyperbole at best.

14 posted on 01/23/2016 10:16:18 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Where else is eminent domain used?

Apparently to try to take away someone's home to build a limousine parking lot.

15 posted on 01/23/2016 10:16:35 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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Yea, Trump is tone deaf. Right.


22 posted on 01/23/2016 10:20:55 PM PST by anton
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What really amuses me about you "eminent domain" clowns is the fact that ALL of us RENT from the government.

I really think you clowns need to STFU until you lead a rebellion to reclaim "your" real estate properties from the government.

Oh, not happening? Then STFU and lick the government boot stamping your face.

Or, you can show me how "confrontational" you are by not paying your property rent "taxes" for 3 or 4 years.

We'll find out real quick who the REAL owner of "your" property is.

28 posted on 01/23/2016 10:23:43 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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And here goes CW ... yet again!

Take a day off already, you are getting quite boring.

Do you really believe you are making any difference at all? The Cruzers will support Cruz so you are preaching to the choir. The Trump supporters laugh at you and think you have a severe case of TDS.

Not quite sure if it is sad or just embarrassing already, but leaning toward the latter.
41 posted on 01/23/2016 10:29:38 PM PST by softwarecreator
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There’s no such thing as private property rights if the “owner” is forced to sell to the highest bidder. That’s what Trump’s position comes down to.

Basically when Trump wants your land for one of his projects he thinks you shouldn’t have the right to refuse to sell it to him at “fair market value”. Fair market value is in the eye of the beholder. It may be priceless to the owner.

I strongly disagree with Trump on this. Not only is it wrong, it is against basic American principles.


42 posted on 01/23/2016 10:29:41 PM PST by DB
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Tone deaf is Jeb Bush, not Donald Trump. His support of eminent domain is controversial with many, I didn’t like Kelo myself. He is, however, a real estate developer, and his perspective is colored by that. Eminent domain is necessary for any sort of public work or development. So long as people being bought out are amply compensated and the taking is for legitimate public benefit, it’s fair and necessary.


46 posted on 01/23/2016 10:32:31 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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Of course you do know that Cruz supports eminent domain also.


68 posted on 01/23/2016 10:41:22 PM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - losers are not winners)
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Okay, so the concept of private property doesn't matter to Trump supporters any more.

Actually, it's more of a natural, personal, and Constitutional right than a "concept", but that's cool, because Trump says some really cool, really funny $h!1, so it's okay to disregard that.

97 posted on 01/23/2016 10:58:51 PM PST by Washi (All lives matter, or none do.)
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It seems to me the issue is about the airport, not eminent domain. The people in the article would oppose it even if eminent domain wasn’t used.


103 posted on 01/23/2016 11:03:38 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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Some of the members of Free Republic folks are have really disappointing on this issue. It seems unfortunate that the old lady was taken advantage of by her attorney.

Here is an article about the eminent domain closer in time without the taint of an election. The funniest thing about the story is that the lawyer who defended this for the property owner was in it for his ego. In the end, he made a name for himself and unwittingly his client lost quite a bit of money.

“CRDA said Coking’s place was worth only $251,000. Coking wanted $1.5 million. So the CRDA sued Coking and the two other owners to condemn their parcels, and turn the land over to Trump.

“CRDA figured the parking use would constitute the grounds to condemn land in the gateway corridor of proposed new development between Trump Plaza on the ocean and the new convention center on the west side of town.”

“Then I did something that had never been done before in condemnation work,” Zeitz said. “I filed an answer to that complaint, and then filed a third-party complaint against Trump and against the CRDA, alleging that they were conspiring to violate her civil rights, by taking her property without due process.

“I sued them, and brought Trump into the case,” Zeitz said. “It was, ‘The Widow vs. The Tycoon.’ You want to know what this really was? It was two people with gigantic egos, namely me and Trump, and then a person with real major principles, which was her. That’s what fueled the fire. That’s what kept the battle going.”

http://articles.philly.com/2002-08-20/news/25336318_1_property-owners-vera-coking-casino-reinvestment-development-authority

In the real estate business, we refer to Vera and her attorney’s actions as “overplaying her hand”. This was a boarding house, not the family farm, let’s be clear about that. Here is an excellent article which tells the end story about Vera.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/22/nyregion/a-homeowner-who-refused-to-cash-out-in-a-gambling-town-may-have-missed-her-chance.html

She kept the home and it WAS NEVER BULLDOZED. She was offered a fair price...she declined...her family is now left to settle for whatever they get in a real estate auction.

Now, as Atlantic City teeters under the weight of all of its opulence, Ms. Coking and her family may have lost their shot at a big payout.

After decades of happily running her boarding home, Ms. Coking was eventually relegated to the ground floor before her family moved her out. Now 91, she lives at a retirement home in the San Francisco Bay Area near her grandson, Ed Casey. He has been trying to sell the property since she moved out in 2010, initially putting it on the market for $5 million....Mr. Casey said the most he remembered Mr. Trump offering was $1.9 million...now the property will go up for auction. The reserve price, or the lowest the seller will accept, is $199,000.”

Furthermore, the constitution says the land “private property [shall not] be taken for public use, without just compensation.”

The land was assessed in 1996 for $251,000 and Trump offered $1.900,000. That is definitely not Trump “stealing the property.” Vera most likely of diminished mental capacity and got punked by her attorney.


104 posted on 01/23/2016 11:03:42 PM PST by GeaugaRepublican (Angry yes, mad, no.)
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Remember this case.


117 posted on 01/23/2016 11:09:25 PM PST by McGruff (You ever notice some people go crazy during a full moon?)
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Tone deaf Trump is honest about how things work in DC. Sad but true.


136 posted on 01/23/2016 11:25:10 PM PST by Shortstop7
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