Posted on 01/22/2016 9:09:51 PM PST by TBP
In 2013, the tea party rallied to Matt Bevin against Donald Trump. RedState and tea party groups around the country swung into action in an ultimately unsuccessful bid to get Matt Bevin through the primary against Mitch McConnell. We were completely out-funded by establishment interests and Washington lobbyists.
It turns out, one of those establishment interests was Donald J. Trump.
In 2013, Donald Trump gave $220,000.00 to organizations, many of them dedicated to stamping out the Tea Party. From Karl Roveâs American Crossroads to Mitch McConnellâs Super PAC, Trump spread out money. Rove got $50,000.00 and McConnell got $60,000.00. Trump also wrote a check to McConnellâs campaign directly for $5,200.00.
Whatâs more, Trump also gave $100,000.00 to the Congressional Leadership Fund, a Republican Establishment PAC that was created to crush conservatives at the behest of John Boehner.
Running as an anti-establishment Republican now and courting Sarah Palin is a distraction from two stark facts.
In 2010, with the rise of the Tea Party, Trump supported Democrats against conservatives. In 2014, Donald Trump supported the Republican Establishment as it sought to crush the tea party and conservatives.
It is seriously disingenuous to think Trump is somehow now against the very candidates and organizations he funded just two years ago â candidates and politicians he is already again starting to say nice things about.
didn’t know about Roger Ailes either :)
or the origin of that slogan.
LOL!
Not at all.
BTW - thank you for your service. :)
You ever hear the one about horses?
"They eat money, and they sh*t work"...
But back to the topic at hand.
We got a problem right here in River City with the "Trumpkins" and the "Cruzers" going at each other's throats.
I think there's outside agitation. There are freepers attempting to do something about it - don-o, and DoughtyOne, to name a couple. Oh, and me.
You've been around here for a while, Mr Rogers - want to sign on as an MP for the Cruz side? I'm doing "chin music" for the Trump side. I have a "little experience" in the area. :)
The problem is, Cruz supporters can't disarm Trump supporters, and Trump supporters can't disarm Cruz supporters.
However, Trump supporters CAN disarm out-of-control "Trumpkins" and Cruz supporters CAN disarm out-of-control "Cruzers".
I've already put my money where my mouth is - on Monday this week, before all this blew up:
VANITY - Attended the Ted Cruz 'Meet and Greet" - Lindy's Diner, Keene, NH (Jan18, 2016)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3385361/posts
Notice my deft application of "chin music" to "Trumpkins" who couldn't leave the politics out of a freeper's Golden Day. (OK, I nailed a "Cruzer", too - but she KNEW she was out of line).
You want to join up? It's going to take a while, but it might be worth it.
I was an enthusiastic Trump supporter until recently and despite his track record of saying things the opposite of what he is campaigning on, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt. All that started to change when he started going after Cruz. Not because he was going after Cruz but because he was demonstrating how he changes his opinions and promises on a dime based on what is good for him at the moment. The thing that really did it for me was him saying that Democrats were going to sue Cruz over eligibility (but not him) and he was only concerned over what it would do to the party and then two days later saying he was considering suing Cruz himself (!). That and the sheer meanness with which he is going after Cruz when Cruz said absolutely nothing negative about Trump until that moment. Not only has he no principles, only self interest, he is just plain nasty.
Cruz went to Harvard-he’s one of the boys.Ivy League hate America.
April 12, 2014
The Donald Donates to Cruz
Donald Trump donated $5,000 to the Texas Sen. Ted Cruz’s leadership PAC during the first quarter, according to an FEC filing.
A bible of the anti-news bias movement back then was a book called “News Twisters” by Edith Efron. She wrote articles for “TV Guide” back then and her book detailed out in script form actual excerpts from television news indicating bias against Nixon or the third party candidate for President in 1968, Alabama Governor George Wallace.
Wallace got 14 percent of the popular vote with Nixon narrowly beating Hubert Humphrey in 68.
The Republican apparatus wanted to suck in the conservative Wallace voters for 1972 so the book milked the resentment over media bias against Wallace, too.
George McGovern and the young hippies like Bill Clinton and Hillary Rodham who helped him didn’t know what hit em in that election.
But I think they learned from their youthful experience as big losers.
it’s funny you say that,
it seems like the rapist sounded more center than he does now.
and certainly more center than his wife does now.
and she is STILL considered not liberal enough!!
i appreciate the insight into the media world at the time of those elections, fascinating.
Whatever you do, do not drink yourself to death on election night. President Trump will most likely be the best President in history with regards to getting things done. He has accomplished an incredible amount of things in his life. He will probably have the contractors and bulldozers ready two seconds after the swearing in. That is who I want. Cruz would have to do stupid policy papers and figure out so many things that by the time he was ready to do the wall, he’d be out off office 10 years. We don’t need a policy wonk again. We need a guy who gets things done.
It will be hard to beat FDR, LBJ and Obama for "getting things done."
Getting things done isn't always a good thing.
I bet you still believe in Santa Claus, too. The REAL Santa Claus.
Too, too unpleasantly surprisingly true about certain FRiends here who believe in Trump, and very sad.
I wouldn’t call that support from the old GOPe - rather, I’d call it capitulation.
Frankly, I think anyone who believes Cruz is loyal to Canada (while Hillary is loyal to America) is nuts.
“has the working class conservatives backs”
That would be why he supported the bailouts that Cruz opposed, even though you say Cruz is in Wall Street’s pocket. And supported bailing out the auto companies. And supported using eminent domain. That is why he gave money to McConnell and Boner.
Why is it that Trump followers don’t look at his track record?
Well, I voted for McCain and Romney and I even put on their bumper stickers and donated to their campaigns, so I am as guilty as Trump!
It’s hard to follow what you are saying here.
Do you think U.S. should have stayed longer in Vietnam? For what? We had no way to win short of turning it into glass.
Did you not comprehend that Nixon’s deal with China, creating some separation between it and the Soviet Union, was part of the weakening process of of the USSR that Reagan eventually fully exposed? It was classic geopolitics, of a nature that Obama, and frankly GWB, have had no conception.
Playing two rivals off against each other is using LEVERAGE—something Trump is doubtless the master of as leverage is the essence of negotiating business deals.
True, Nixon was highly flawed . . . for example, a big drinker at times it is said (TRUMP does not touch a drop of alcohol.) And, true, he played a role in the globalist agenda by closing the Gold window . . . but that was totally in the cards since Bretton Woods.
All in all, I would gladly accept a new Nixon, without some of the personality flaws (like paranoia and excessive drinking), and without the extreme ties to globalists (who also controlled Kissinger).
Vote Trump.
It really wasn’t a question of ‘staying longer’, it was a question of using bombing to cutoff the supply line for the enemy at Haiphong Harbor.
The Soviet ships could unload supplies freely there and fear of killing a Soviet is what is said to have dictated the refusal to bomb the enemy supply line at its head.
Its interesting that when Nixon opted for that in 1972, the Commies caved and the deal was finally cut. One that would not be kept by the Communists.
If it was been done earlier under different circumstances when the USA had more leverage-public opinion in favor, Vietnam may have ended differently.
Effective and meaningful bombing wasn’t used in Vietnam, it was more than is done to IS today in Syria and Iraq, but it was limited to targets in the south of North Vietnam, the Ho Chi Minh trail through Laos and so on.
You speak of leverage as if its magic, but as Solzhenistyn in his critique pointed out, all Communism is evil and to the extent China rattles its sabre today, it can be laid at the feet of Nixon and Kissinger.
China could end up being to the US in the 20th and 21st Centuries what Japan was to the US in the 19th and 20th, a trading partner building up its might until it waged war against the USA.
I think the elites are practicing ‘leverage’ in the ME today, pitting the Iranians on one side against the Saudis on the other.
We play the old Nixon-Kissinger approach with the Soviets with Iran, appease them while containing them in Yemen and Syria. And making sure big corporations can do business with the Iranians by lifting sanctions just like there was business with the Soviets back then.
What has this policy in the ME given us? Well how about ‘migrants’ in Europe and now the USA and the IS terrorism.
Those of us who support Cruz do not support everything he has ever done. We just weigh it against Trump’s record of supporting democrats, big government bailouts, abortion, his current support for touch-back amnesty, praise for Hillary, praise for Obama, support for DeBlasio...and find Trump is NOT a conservative. Not even close.
If Ted Cruz had praised DeBlasio in 2013, I wouldn’t support him either. If he had praised Obama in 2009, I wouldn’t support him either.
It comes down to comparing what they have DONE and who they have supported or fought. Trump gave money TO McConnell. Cruz supported his ouster. That ought to give a Trump supporter pause.
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