Posted on 01/21/2016 2:17:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
I would rather have my car run badly than have to live in fear of a doomed Amercan culture. I am tired of accommodating non English speaking people.
I would support scrapping the ethanol program.
But let me ask you this:
In what states, post-Iowa, is ethanol an issue in the primary campaign for either party?
NH?
SC?
Florida?
NV?
If not any of them, which super-Tuesday states?
You know the answer: none of the above.
And do you know why, because VOTERS ELSEWHERE LOOK AT THIS AS A SMALL ISSUE IN THE OVERALL CAMPAIGN.
And let me ask you this:
If this is such a big issue, tell me in which year the non-Iowa states (you know, the other 49 states) have made this a big issue on the Senate floor, or on the floor of the House?
2015?
2014?
2013?
Any year in this century?
What about the 90s?
Sure, you can google this issue with regard to congress and get plenty of hits, there have been plenty of proposals, but in which year did congress say: no more ethanol.
After all, Iowa is only 1/50 states. (Notice I am using the 50 number, not the Obama-count 57 number which might change the math somewhat if used.)
The answer is: this issue has NOT been addressed by this country as a whole and everyone just assumes that it is just part of the quirky nominating process in the US to give Iowa their damn ethanol subsidies.
Do I like it? No. Has ANYONE done anything about it? No.
Is it my Number One issue (stacked against things like the Muslim Invasion of the Western world): no.
Is it the Number One Issue of Trump Voters (stacked against things like the Muslim Invasion of the Western World): no.
So Trump is not going to fix this for you, Oh Great Conservative Purists.
Deal with it.
I want a wall.
I want the muslim invasion kept out.
I want an end to ethanol subsidies (but not as much as I want a wall and the muslim invasion kept out).
So go ahead, whine, wail, gnash your teeth, jump up and down, hold your breath until you turn blue... or even something more futile, vote Canadian in the primary... but it won’t change the minds or votes of the broad majority of the Republican voters in ANY of the post-Iowa states.
So deal with it.
Screw the small farmer. You heard it here first on FR. Because Trump.
or the feds could let go of more oil leases and we could make our own fuel
Ethanol is about the 98th most important issue facing the country, right between Kelo and Gardasil.
“Do you have any idea how many Iowa jobs are on the line? I donât agree with the subsidy,”
Do you know how many TEXAS Oil Jobs are on the Line? - GIVE ME THE $$$
You people are marooons. G’ment subsidies distort the markes
Well done, statists.
“Paying a higher price for fuel so we can stop funding states that prop up jihadis is a sacrifice we should bare”
NO, you should pay by sending your sons to the Middle East - either he kills the jihadis or he dies there
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Hey, money’s kinda’ tight here right now. How much can you spare on my behalf?
Still trashing Trump without having anything good to say or post—ever—about Cruz.
You must still be working for the GOPe.
yeah it’s all Trumps fault..
this as a political scientist,, you know one of Trump’s major positives is he is number one by 40% or more on being the best candidate to bring the economy back.. this is really a no poll changing subject so it’s to Trump’s major advantage they keep talking about ethanol.... hey did you hear Trump likes ethanol can we start 10 daily threads on it until Iowa gets together in a few weeks?.. this subject has NEVER moved one blinkin poll number in the history of Presidential campaigns.. so Trump says please keep talking about this it’s like taking a knee at the end of a football game
Maybe it should be Keeping America the same again.
I'd rather see an in-balance market with privately owned farms producing foods that aren't poisoning us. I'd rather not have corn syrup making a high percentage of our foods inedible and ethanol lowering MPG and gumming up engines.
But you know what? At this juncture in our history, we need to solve the problems of globalization, the invasion, blood-sucking corporate entities destroying US entrepreneurship and getting US citizens back to work.
Then the problem that price supports prevents can be addressed. But to not support family farmers now would be a disaster, much like what we're seeing with the glut of oil destroying small producers and the good jobs they provide.
The problem is the MANDATE, this is OBAMACARE for your cars.
Just as destructive also.
No what you hear is crony capitalist getting the federal government to force us to buy their products is now a-okay with “conservatives” because their leader has said so - and it will buy more votes with our money.
We’ve come a long way baby!
Hell, and it is only begun!
Nobody knows where it will go!
And for those who say this issue in small and unimportant. Well if you can’t get the little things right I’m sure it will go spectacularly well on the big things...
On the other hand, one would expect conservatives instinctively to recoil against socialistic policies.
If you don’t like Trump’s pandering to Iowan farmers, just be patient. His position on ethanol will change as necessary. It must be great to lead a personality cult.
You’ve got to be kidding—farm subsidies and floors save us from deflation?
So too would housing and healthcare supports, too, I guess. So really Obamacare must be a great, great thing.
Kinda hard to see how crony agricultural capitalism is required when those foods that don’t have price supports don’t suffer from both scarcity and “too-low” prices.
Everything was out of wack in the depression, which was also back in the day before we had modern food storage, processing and transportation.
As Mark Leving pointed out last night, ethanol subsidies raise the price of food globally—including for those in third world countries without enough to eat.
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