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Santorum: Cruz Has Dangerous Position on Marriage
The Iowa Republican ^ | January 19, 2016 | Craig Robinson

Posted on 01/19/2016 12:29:19 PM PST by Engraved-on-His-hands

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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

“States do not have the right to endorse homosexual marriage any more or less than the federal government does.”

Just as states DO NOT have the right to legalize slavery. Excellent point.


61 posted on 01/19/2016 3:59:42 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands; All

Senator Santorum is right on this point. He is morally and factually correct ...

Immoral law is no law at all. The state is a creation of God, and as such it cannot consent to do that which is contrary to God’s Law, no matter what contrary position libertarians want to argue.

The Constitution is based on the Natural Law - whose moral precepts are rooted in the Divine Law. You cannot on the one hand attribute what is unalienable - those rights which come from God, and which the state has a duty to uphold and defend - yet OTOH argue that the state then has no duty to recognize and uphold that union which God ordained and created! That is a contradictory argument.


62 posted on 01/19/2016 5:01:04 PM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: BobL

There’s a constitutional amendment against slavery. None exists regarding same sex marriage. Therefore, 10th amendment applies.


63 posted on 01/19/2016 5:02:41 PM PST by optiguy ("They've got us surrounded. Poor bastards."--- New saying by democrats in congress.)
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To: Politicalkiddo

You do not have a “right” to do wrong - you have free will to choose to do wrong, but not the right.


64 posted on 01/19/2016 5:04:42 PM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

EXACTLY! You well define the limits of argument. The Senator is dead on target with his counter argument. The only one who will hold a contrary view are the libertarians - who are practical atheists by any measure.


65 posted on 01/19/2016 5:08:17 PM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Glad to see that all the libertarians are exposing themselves by their irrational false arguments. As I have always stated: Libertarians are, in truth, closet liberals where morals are concerned. They are, for all intents and purposes, practical atheists. What their hearts truly desire is a Godless amoral state, so they may be their own gods, making up the moral code to whatever personal interpretation fits their “lifestyle” choices. The only difference between a libertarian and a liberal is that the liberal is truthful about his underlying goals, whereas the libertarians are just conniving liars.


66 posted on 01/19/2016 5:15:42 PM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: optiguy

Would it affect your opinion if there were no amendment? I wouldn’t support slavery or the right of states to permit slavery, regardless.


67 posted on 01/19/2016 5:28:03 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Santorum is right on this. Politicians saying it’s a state’s right are waving a surrender flag.

But it doesn’t matter who gets elected President. The only way to over turn the SCOTUS ruling is for Congress to start impeaching justices.


68 posted on 01/19/2016 6:17:14 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Santorum is exactly right and that is also my view of marriage.


69 posted on 01/19/2016 6:33:22 PM PST by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: FourPeas

“SCOTUS has found the powers to declare abortion and homosexual marriage legal.”

SCOTUS does not make new law. They interpret law. Congress makes laws.


70 posted on 01/19/2016 6:37:04 PM PST by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

The Founding Fathers would have laughed at same-sex “marriage” and had anyone who mentioned it committed to an insane asylum.

Not in the history of recorded man has any civilization legalized sodomite “marriage”, or any type of sodomy. It’s abhorrent to anyone with a functioning brain.


71 posted on 01/19/2016 6:40:45 PM PST by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: Sun

Trump has never been for homo “marriage” and when asked about it after the ruling said his opinion of marriage was different than the ruling but we had to live with the ruling until something came out of Congress doing something about it. He said it would be hard to change now that the Supreme Court has ruled. In that I disagree 100%. Do you think for one minute if Kennedy has voted against it that liberals would have ever given up. No way in hell. They would still be fighting it and ignoring it. Republicans never have the backbone to fight anything. That the difference in the two parties.


72 posted on 01/19/2016 6:45:28 PM PST by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

I don’t care what a union-loving Bolshevist like Santorum has to say, nor should any conservative.


73 posted on 01/19/2016 6:53:10 PM PST by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

I agree with Santorum -some truths are self-evident and can no more be redefined by men as they can by local, state, or federal governments. Homosexual sex as a basis for marriage is an absurd proposition that flies in the face of natural law.


74 posted on 01/19/2016 7:35:02 PM PST by DBeers (�)
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To: NKP_Vet

“....Do you think for one minute if Kennedy has voted against it that liberals would have ever given up. No way in hell. They would still be fighting it and ignoring it. Republicans never have the backbone to fight anything. That the difference in the two parties.”

So true, and this is why evil is winning.

Thankfully, many of us are still fighting, and we need to get more to join us.


75 posted on 01/20/2016 12:35:10 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
you don't have that position, which I do, then you are saying that states have absolute authority to dictate anything they want on their people. That's not the country I live in. The country I live in doesn't give the state absolute power over us to do whatever they want, whether its true or false, rational or not.

I don't support gay marriage or polygamy either, but to phrase permitting that as oppression, and as giving states "absolute power over us" is sheer nonsense.

76 posted on 01/20/2016 5:12:04 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Sun
Nothing that you address goes to grant a power to the Federal Government to usurp State functions--nothing. You want to turn a bureaucracy, set up for specific functional purposes, into some form of Godhood. What is self-evident as to that, is that it is wrong.

Because Santorum does not get that, is why some of us cannot even consider him as a candidate.

77 posted on 01/20/2016 7:47:31 AM PST by Ohioan
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Our Framers wrote the Constitution based on Natural Law, and some cases have been ruled because of our Framers’ intent. Heterosexuals have bodies which compliment each other, but the same-sex lifestyle is against Natural Law, and THAT is self-evident.

So what do you think our Framers’ intent would be?


78 posted on 01/20/2016 5:37:09 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

On this, Santorum is correct.


79 posted on 01/20/2016 5:39:00 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Yup


80 posted on 01/21/2016 1:25:59 AM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Vote Tom Hoefling of America's Party for President the only party to restore the Republic)
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