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The values of average New Yorkers are good, pro-American values.

The values of elite left-wing New York intellectuals are filthy, disgusting, anti-God, and anti-American values.

Cruz should use more precise language in the future.

1 posted on 01/17/2016 9:15:21 AM PST by pinochet
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To: pinochet

You go to Dallas or Houston, and it’s not much different than NYC.


2 posted on 01/17/2016 9:16:24 AM PST by dfwgator
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3 posted on 01/17/2016 9:16:47 AM PST by South40 (Ted Cruz = the only conservative in the race)
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To: pinochet

If it is any consolation most conservatives and republicans are laughing their asses off watching Hillary get humiliated by a 70 something Sanders who looks like he will win Iowa and New Hampshire.


4 posted on 01/17/2016 9:19:25 AM PST by GilGil
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You have a point.
Serious question: DT attacks on Cruz yesterday?


6 posted on 01/17/2016 9:20:12 AM PST by libbylu (Cruz: The truth with a smile.)
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Those West of the Mississippi believe New York values are:

Secular
Pro-Abortion
Pro-gay marriage
Anti-Second Amendment
Support government regulation and interference in all aspects of our lives.

And “WE” disagree with all of those “values”.


7 posted on 01/17/2016 9:22:39 AM PST by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: pinochet
they use "New York" like it's the whole damn state!

values above the bridge are vastly different than those of the majority below it...

9 posted on 01/17/2016 9:31:58 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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Consider this....New York's current Governor is about as filthy as they come.The Mayor of NYC is an unapologetic Marxist.The state's House seats are,today,about two-thirds Rat.Both their Senators are slimy,flea-ridden Rats.In 2012 only two states,VT and HI,gave Osama Obama a bigger margin of victory than New York (63%).Assuming that Gubernatorial,Mayoral,House,Senate and Presidential elections are,considered together,a good (or even *very* good) indicator of a state's basic “morality quotient” then New York comes pretty close to bottom of the barrel.

Of course there are decent,respectable,admirable people living in New York State.Such people can even be found in New York City.But there can be little doubt that these people represent a small minority of the state's...and city's...population.

11 posted on 01/17/2016 9:32:39 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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The phrase really should be New York City values, as it does not characterize the rest of the state.


16 posted on 01/17/2016 9:37:19 AM PST by zencycler
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TWO great conservatives? I stopped reading after that......


18 posted on 01/17/2016 9:41:55 AM PST by wny
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“The values of elite left-wing New York intellectuals are filthy, disgusting, anti-God, and anti-American values.”

Of course. Everyone knows Cruz is right.

Trump, sadly, is proving himself not trustworthy and of having poor judgement.

I don’t like what I’m seeing. He’s blowing it.


20 posted on 01/17/2016 9:46:48 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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The values of average New Yorkers are good, pro-American values.

If you are talking about NYC residents you are absolutely wrong.

Average NYC residents are illegal and legal immigrants , welfare cases and parsaites, homosexuals, criminals,the mentally ill, and rich elitists.

Their values have nothing in common with American values of hard work and self sufficiency.

Citizens of the rest of the State are different.

There are some rare types in NYC that do have American values, but they are tied to the city financially and will only remain as long as necessary.

99% of the good people left NYC a LONG time ago.

Those 9/11 NYC cops and firemen were mostly from Long Island.

23 posted on 01/17/2016 9:52:13 AM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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Well reasoned and stated for the most part. But Cruz knew exactly what he was saying, it’s been confirmed that he “message tested” this line in Iowa and elsewhere and it was well received, to he trotted it out in the wrong venue, to his peril. What he meant and what people interpret it as, and what the media tells them he meant, and what other candidates say about it - - those are all now in play, and he has himself to blame.

So it’s not imprecise language as much as imprecise thinking. This sounded like a great way to separate himself from the liberal elitists and it backfired. The more Cruz tries to explain and nuance it, the more people will discover that he’s an elitist himself, and not very experienced in the game of politics.

No one will ever catch Trump doing “message testing”


28 posted on 01/17/2016 9:56:18 AM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first ande then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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“The values of elite left-wing New York intellectuals are filthy, disgusting, anti-God, and anti-American values.”

Like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8


29 posted on 01/17/2016 9:57:33 AM PST by Beagle8U (Don't settle for Bill de Blasio's NYC 'values'.)
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New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo believes that pro-life activists, along with anti-gay activists and supporters of the Second Amendment, are not welcome in his state.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/new-york-gov.-andrew-cuomo-pro-life-people-not-welcome-in-new-york/article/2542475#.VpkO8jrpQ8E.twitter


33 posted on 01/17/2016 10:06:59 AM PST by maine-iac7 (A Christian is as a Christian does - "By their works...")
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I think what I dislike most about this Cruz attack is attributing moral values to an entire population. Sure, there’s lots of depraved sickos in NY, LA, Washington state, D.C. Philly, and the list goes on.

It’s a divisive tactics and we’ve had enough of that from Obama. Cruz should find another way to make his point.


35 posted on 01/17/2016 10:08:10 AM PST by Kenny (RED)
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Bump


46 posted on 01/17/2016 10:35:32 AM PST by CPT Clay (Hillary: Julius and Ethal Rosenberg were electrocuted for selling classified info.)
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Considering how they vote I doubt most NYC voters despise the left


48 posted on 01/17/2016 10:49:46 AM PST by uncbob
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Ole Buck knew all about NYC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNAH75SfV0k
50 posted on 01/17/2016 11:02:06 AM PST by uncbob
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Cruz should use more precise language in the future.

No not really.

I think most would agree that the common meaning of the phrase NY values doesn't extend to everybody in the state.

For example there's a common phrase "American Values".

I can't imagine any person using that phrase, really means that every single person in the US has those values. Phrases such as American Values or NY Values are used as generalizations.

55 posted on 01/17/2016 11:19:00 AM PST by FreeReign
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“The values of average New Yorkers are good, pro-American values.”

NY is a big state and there are plenty of good conservatives in the upstate region. Unfortunately NYC is so infested with overwhelming numbers of hyper liberals that we have almost no chance of successfully combating them. In NY, NYC controls the state. When Cruz talks about NY values he (and everyone else) means NY CITY values.


65 posted on 01/17/2016 12:34:43 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (It's the apocalypse, lets have some fun!)
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