Posted on 01/17/2016 9:15:21 AM PST by pinochet
Exactly, that’s whgat I was trying to explain-
Jaygalt- just listen to all the other candidates- on both sides- and you will quickly see they make generalizations constantly- Heck- Trump even did it with the muslims and illegals- and -most people- knew he wasn’t vilifying ALL muslism and ALL illegals when he said mexico was sending us all their criminal people over the border- etc-
I guess on this point we must agree to disagree. I do expect people to say what they mean. Especially Cruz, a lawyer and a debater, should be able to carefully parse his words almost reflexively. If I catch myself generalizing I correct myself. I think there is a place for generalities. but on National TV or in front of a roomful of cameras his comments were perhaps better phrased more precisely unless he was looking to have a sound bite to play at a later date.
On another note whether Trump is right or wrong in the instance linked below he was careful not to generalize and had sources he thought adequate to support his conclusions.
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-epic-statement-on-mexico-2015-7
On another note whether Trump is right or wrong in the instance linked below he was careful not to generalize and had sources he thought adequate to support his conclusions.
Believe it or not I defended Trump's Mexican remark, pointing out that he used the qualifier, "some"...although he waited until his next sentence which really muddied the waters.
Wouldn't take the time to defend him now.
Or did I just do that.
I believe we agree on enough other things to pass on from this point companionably.
“The values of average New Yorkers are good, pro-American values.”
NY is a big state and there are plenty of good conservatives in the upstate region. Unfortunately NYC is so infested with overwhelming numbers of hyper liberals that we have almost no chance of successfully combating them. In NY, NYC controls the state. When Cruz talks about NY values he (and everyone else) means NY CITY values.
No kidding........
[[Believe it or not I defended Trump’s Mexican remark,]]
I did too- had friends arguing he meant ‘all muslims’ and I argued trump did not mean all muslims and immigrants were the worst but that mexico was indeed sending their worst here to get rid of them- again it was round after round of nuh uh- he meant all Mexicans are scum- I also defended Trump on the muslim comments he made and said that trump was absolutely correct that we must stop all immigration until we have better vetting process- What he said w3as just a common sense no brainer comment- even though it ‘generlized’ when he said ‘muslims are killing us’- of course he didn’t mean all muslims- but the fact is that muslims are indeed killing us and we need to do everything we can to stop it-
I’ll bet last night’s democratic debate was rife with generalizations too- but I’ll not know as I refuse to listen to them-
[[NY is a big state and there are plenty of good conservatives in the upstate region. Unfortunately NYC is so infested with overwhelming numbers of hyper liberals that we have almost no chance of successfully combating them. In NY, NYC controls the state. When Cruz talks about NY values he (and everyone else) means NY CITY values]]
Exactly- Most people understand this- but unfortunately people and the MSM and GOP-e insist he couldn’t have meant anything but ALL NY’ers
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