Donald Trump on his New York Values

I’m thinking that Trump is not thinking up this stuff alone. I think his people probably told him, “Look, you’ve got a problem with this birther thing. You went after Obama, but you’re giving Cruz a pass. Sooner or later you’re going to be asked about it. YOu can say that let TEd Cruz handle it, or you can say, Ted has a problem that needs to be corrected. You don’t have to play that card unless you need too, but you might need to play it if he goes up in the polls.”

I think in the debate, Trump admitted, it’s an issue now because Cruz is up in the polls. Funny stuff.

thank you. If this wasn’t posted I was going to post it.

No evidence that Trump has changed. He did not support Kim Davis. He has been silent on Christians in New York persecuted by gays who won’t host their wedding. Trump has said Planned Parenthood does some good things. Trump has funded the New York Democrat political machine and hasn’t done a thing to break their hold and last Trump praises Hitlery legal supporters.

Please check this out Iowa value voters, and you will see that Trump does NOT represent your social conservative values! Trump even mentioned in the clip that NY was not like Iowa.

“....you will hear Trump tell Tim Russert that he is totally pro choice even on partial birth abortion ....”

So, even Trump admitted he had NY values.

Mark Levin played a clip of this on his show. Thanks for posting this.

More blowback on Ted for his ill advised attack.

“After all we have been through as a city and as one undivided nation, to have a United States senator running for President paint New York as a city consumed with greed, sin and media obsession is shocking. Sen. TED CRUZ SHOULD APOLOGIZE to the people of New York for his remarks and to the people of the United States for his crass attempt to divide us. And whatever our inclinations in the presidential race, all of us should be proud of Donald Trump’s strong, truthful and eloquent defense of our great city and nation.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/giuliani-cruz-view-nyc-ignores-city-strength-article-1.2498218

Probably shouldn't make a man who changes direction like a windmill president.

Really?

Of course as so many has written here, by that standard Ronald Reagan should never have been president.

What a narrow point of view. But then again it must be nice to live in a linear world where ones own values fit in a tiny box. Life is much more simpler. Makes it easier to harsh on others. Give it a break.

So Reagan wasn't pro-abortion when he was 50? He either was or he wasn't.

Be fully informed before you hit Post next time.

Adamantly pro-choice? Ronald Reagan and abortion in 1967

There's one guy who actually WILL IMPLEMENT CONSERVATISM running in this race and his name ain't Ted Cruz.

Ooh, it's written in all caps so it must be true.

Could you please give me an example or two of prior acts from Trump's life wherein he worked to implement conservatism in some way, shape or form?

>>Probably shouldn't make a man who changes direction like a windmill president.

> Of course as so many has written here, by that standard Ronald Reagan should never have been president.

You have to create a straw man version of Reagan in order to make your point. Reagan was not at all a man who changed directions like a windmill. Reagan didn't veer wildly to and fro with the prevailing political winds of the moment. His progression from FDR Democrat to conservatism was more akin to metamorphosis--a butterfly emerging from a cocoon, never to return to its prior form.

Trump's "conversion story" on the other hand is a thing largely of mystery. When and under what circumstances did he come to believe in conservative ideas? His transformation appears sudden and wildly at odds when juxtaposed to a huge volume of his prior statements and actions. In contrast to Reagan, Trump's transformation from liberal to conservative seems to me and many others to be more like that of a chameleon than a genuine political metamorphosis.

Trump converted to pro life. Cruz knows that. One of our major thrusts is to get converts, to change minds.

Abortion is not a new York value, it is a supreme Court value forced on the entire country and since taught to all our kids in an effort to brainwash.

Trump is a family man

Really? I wonder if his ex-wives would agree with that. From the Wikipedia page:

Trump married model Ivana ZelnÃÄkovÃ¡ on April 7, 1977... They have three children... Ivana became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 1988...
By early 1990, Trump's troubled marriage to Ivana and long-running affair with actress Marla Maples had become widely documented in the tabloid press, and the couple divorced in 1991...
Maples gave birth to their daughter Tiffany on October 13, 1993. They married two months later on December 20, 1993. The couple formally separated in May 1997, with their divorce finalized in June 1999...
Trump dated model Kara Young in the mid to late 1990s, and reportedly "bombarded" Princess Diana with expensive floral arrangements after her 1996 divorce from Prince Charles. "I only have one regret in the women department – that I never had the opportunity to court Lady Diana Spencer", Trump wrote in his 1997 book, The Art of the Comeback.
In 1998, Trump began a relationship with fashion model Melania Knauss... and were married on January 22, 2005... In 2006, Melania became a naturalized U.S. citizen.

That doesn't sound like a "family man" to me. I also note, in passing, that using the same arguments the Trumpies are using against Cruz, only one of his five (known) children would be eligible to become President.

If Trump becomes President, he will have twice as many ex-wives as all the previous Presidents combined.

If we want to go back in time, it works both ways. Cruz hooked up Bush with John Roberts for the 1999/2000 recount and the rest is history.

You would rather have someone like Trump's left-wing sister on the Supreme Court?

National Review

Been involved in the pro-life issue for a very long time and I’m a pro-life Catholic. Here are some of my musings:

Do I think Trump is as pro-life as I am? No. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t give a hoot about it once way or the other. I have heard him lately on record saying he would de-fund Planned Parenthood, so that’s encouraging.

Do I feel a President Trump would get in my way as an American fighting for pro-life values? No.

Do I feel a President Clinton would? Hell yes. She’s probably force me and every other woman to have at least one to prove our loyalty to her. This is Clinton’s SIGNATURE issue.

Trump is Trump. He is first and foremost a billionaire businessman from New York. That is WHO he is. Does he actively promote abortion and PP? We know that isn’t true. Do I wish he would promote the pro-life agenda more forcefully? Yes, I do — but Trump’s priorities ARE different.

I want to add that we’ve elected solid Republican majorities and yet nothing has changed in the abortion arena as of yet.

Right now I feel I need to take the long view — America is is grave trouble. We’re being overrun with foreign immigrants, who, if we allow them to settle in and take over, will change this country to something unrecognizeable, as they clearly do not want to assimilate.

The house is on fire here ...and yet we’re focusing on the dust in the china cabinets.

Also want to add this — the more socialistic a country gets, the more abortion becomes an option. Women and men who cannot afford children due to high taxation and progressive policies WILL need abortion to limit and delay starting families. A strong and robust economy with hope for a future, hope for jobs, for greater futures and incomes for young people will result in the baby boom we need. Keeping liberals in control will lead to the ultimate death of our society, in so many ways.

Cruz is now running against New York City Values, not Donald Trump.

Which do Republican Primary Voters support:

New York City Values or Consistent Conservatism?

What New Yorker said that Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Traditional Marriage Conservatives were not welcome in the state?

...then acted outraged by Cruz's "different values" comment.

Guess old news is the “new news” of today if it is used for gaining political advantages.

(If you don’t hear from me for awhile, I’m in the archives searching for something “juicy”)..........

It has been an interesting “debate” thus far and I’m not referring to the debates on TV, I am referring the debates right here on FR. So far, I haven’t sensed a “winner”

“So a persons past is not a good indicator of how they will perform in the future”

Well, Cruz only repudiated his Canadian citizenship just recently, about 18 months ago. He was for amnesty only a few months ago. What does that tell you about Cruz? Is that an indicator of how he will perform in the future? If not, why not, if you want to go back 17 years with Trump?

Let’s assume for a moment that Trump truly did convert to pro-life, to conservative principles in general. Do we expect a convert to be instantly perfect, or do we expect a period of growth? We hopefully expect growth over time. Does that disqualify Trump? No. He already had great qualifications as a successful business man. The good thing is that he is growing. Let’s encourage that, AND gain the benefit from a great leadership gift that he has obviously been given.

Views: According to Webster: an attitude or opinion. Values are not views. Views are opinions. I have views on Nascar, Wendy's chili, my favoritie perfume. Values, according to Webster: "a person's principles or standards of behavior; one's judgment of what is important in life." The fact that you conflate or don't understand the difference between the two is not suprising. Trump was explaining himself, he wasn't attacking a set of people in a geographical area.

I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice:

Donald Trump shocked attendees at the conservative CPAC conference in February when he declared himself pro-life after years of supporting the pro-abortion position. Several months ago, when questioned about his position, Trump responded by saying the public "would be surprised" by his stance and, in an interview with Laura Ingraham from Fox News leading up to the conference, Trump characterized himself as "pro-life" and he repeated that apparent reversal when he told the audience at CPAC, "I am pro-life" and pledged to fight for the reversal of ObamaCare, which contains abortion funding loopholes.

As the 2012 race intensifies, pro-life advocates must call upon Donald Trump to further explain his stand on important pro-life issues like Supreme Court nominations and repeal of the pro-abortion Obama healthcare law.

Source: Steven Ertelt in LifeNews.com , Apr 8, 2011 _______________________________________________________________________________________

I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories:

Q: Evangelicals want to feel secure that they're going to have a nominee that's solid on those social issues.

A: One thing about me, I'm a very honorable guy. I'm pro-life, but I changed my view a number of years ago. One of the primary reasons I changed [was] a friend of mine's wife was pregnant, and he didn't really want the baby. He was crying as he was telling me the story. He ends up having the baby and the baby is the apple of his eye. It's the greatest thing that's ever happened to him. And you know here's a baby that wasn't going to be let into life. And I heard this, and some other stories, and I am pro-life.

Q: So those stories did change you, they came around and changed you?

A: They changed me. Yeah, they changed my view as to that, absolutely.

Source: David Brody interview on CBN.com , Apr 8, 2011 _________________________________________________________________________________________

I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding:

Billionaire Donald Trump told the Conservative Political Action Conference that he's thinking about running for president. His remarks drew lots of applause and cheers from the crowd, who will play a key role in grass-roots organizing for the eventual 2012 GOP presidential nominee. "I'm well acquainted with winning," Trump said. "That's what this country needs now."

Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p. 31-32 , Jul 2, 2000

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