We All Know What New York Values Are, Why is Trump Insulted?

The Resurgent ^ | January 15, 2016 | Steve Berman

[Isara]

Donald Trump was offended last night that Ted Cruz accused him of having "New York values." Speaking to the television audience in Iowa, New Hampshire and the rest of the country, and the live audience in South Carolina, Cruz reminded us that we know what that means.

When I was barely able to vote, growing up in N.H., I attended a town meeting in Seabrook. This is the oldest form of democracy, and it's still used in the Granite State, where a Board of Selectmen and a moderator have an annual meeting where all residents have a say, and a vote, on such things as should the town buy another police cruiser. It's an amusing and informative way to do business.

The biggest problem the townfolk complained about was the influx of New York values into the town. "We don't need no New York divorcees" is one line I'll never forget. The image of Ivana Trump (this was about that time) is forever associated with that statement.

In New Hampshire, they know what New York values are (or at least they did, before Massachusetts values took over half the state).

Can we define “New York values” with some objective description? Yes, yes we can.

In a word, "liberal." Since 1898, when New York City consolidated its government, there have been 21 mayors. Five of them have been Republican. And out of those 5, two left the GOP while in office. In 1966, John Lindsay switched to the Democratic Party-but he was never a conservative to begin with. Most recently, Michael Bloomberg, the champion of gun control, switched from (R) to (D) in 2007. So you could say that only three mayors actually left office in NYC as Republicans. Do the math: The Big Apple is 85.7 percent blue.

A big, blue apple.

All the issues that attach themselves to this party preference attach themselves to New York City. High taxes, government dependence, severe gun control, the regulatory super-state, and aggressive enforcement of liberal social agendas. "Misgendering" a transsexual will get you a fine of up to $250,000. That pretty much says it all.

There's even a political party with its own rich history, based on New York values: Meet the Liberal Party of New York, of which the aforementioned mayor Lindsay was a card-carrying member. From their own website:

The Liberal Party has a history of supporting candidates on the basis of merit, independence and progressive viewpoints regardless of party affiliation. Past nominees have included Governors Averill Harriman, High Carey and Mario Cuomo; U.S. Senators Herbert Lehman, Robert Wagner Sr., Jacob Javits, Robert Kennedy, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Charles Schumer and Hillary Clinton; NYC Mayors Fiorello LaGuardia, Robert Wagner and John Lindsay.

The Liberal Party stands against everything Donald Trump has claimed as his own mantle in his run for the Oval Office.

In the 1980's, the Liberal Party was the first political party in America to support a woman's Right to Choose and filed a friend of the court brief before the U.S. Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade.

Today the Liberal Party is especially aware of the erosion of the liberal principles which made America the greatest force for freedom and justice the world has known. Begun in the Reagan era with the pledge to rid America of FDR's New Deal progressive legislation that would lead to Medicare and Medicaid in later years, and continuing through the years of Karl Rove and George W. Bush and now the Tea Party and the overwhelming influence of Big Business, the Liberal Party has developed a Platform which is based on the continuation of its core principles: freedom, justice and a level playing field of opportunity for all citizens.

Trump can be insulted all he wants, but New York values do not represent anything the GOP wants to accomplish, and in fact, we should be angry that he would defend the statement. Trump offered the example of the late William F. Buckley as a product of New York. Ironically, Buckley would most certainly have opposed Trump as a candidate, given his political history. In fact, Buckley's legacy, The National Review, vigorously, vociferously, and aggressively opposes Trump.

Another product of New York, Jonah Goldberg, wrote an NR piece in September titled "No Movement That Embraces Trump Can Call Itself Conservative" where he deep dives all the reasons his fellow New Yorker does not represent conservatism. You should read it.

Maybe Trump will walk back his insult and pivot it north of, say, White Plains, where the party affiliation map finally starts to turn purple from the deep, deep blue of Manhattan. But we all know what Cruz meant.

New York values are liberal. They always have been. And Donald Trump is most decidedly a product of, and has been working with, the proponents of those values his entire life. Instead of being insulted, he should agree with Cruz and tell us why he has changed.

[Isara]

"New York values are liberal. They always have been. And Donald Trump is most decidedly a product of, and has been working with, the proponents of those values his entire life. Instead of being insulted, he should agree with Cruz and tell us why he has changed."

[Isara]

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[kik5150]

BAM!

[PJBankard]

The Ted Cruz Twister Board of Issues has made another appearance.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: Why is Trump Insulted?

It’s simple — HE ISN’T REALLY.

He knows that Ted Cruz isn’t referring to the firefighters, policemen and first responders but the liberal politicians who dominate the state’s politics.

He’s cleverly using what Cruz said to play to the New York voters. He knows that the state is in play for once in a long time.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

Trump used to know the meaning of "New York values."

Surprise!

[ObozoMustGo2012]

My God, man...get a new schtick!!!

This one’s more worn out than the elastics on 5-yr old pair of jockey shorts!

[MAD-AS-HELL]

Cruz was right but unfortunately made the mistake of not clarifying by stating NY Manahattan Liberal Elite values that Trump has endorsed in the past. Trump is a Chump and a trojan horse liberal elite scumbag. He never has been a conservative and those supporting him are as ignorant and brain dead as those who fell for Obama.

[ObozoMustGo2012]

There is a NEW Twister board that’s just been posted.

It’s a doozie! :-)

[kik5150]

If he said Iowa values or Midwest values there would be no insult.

The insult is created by one's own preconceived notion of what New York Values are!

[TBP]

This graphic is the key.

And my browser won’t copy it without taking the entire page.

[peyton randolph]

he should agree with Cruz and tell us why he has changed

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Because Trump is a populist, not a conservative. If the nation's majority was liberal, Trump would be running as a liberal.

This means that conservatives should be pleased by a Trump presidency unless there's a massive shift in the population to the left. Given that Trump is going for "build the wall," that would suggest he has no intention of getting elected but then letting scamnesty prevent him from having a second term.

* Note - I'd be 80% content with either a Cruz or Trump presidency. No dog in the civil war going on right now here on FR between their respective supporters.

[TBP]

All I need to say is Comrade DeBloodio.

[TBP]

Buckley would most certainly have opposed Trump as a candidate

Which proves that Buckley was a CFR RINO GOPe liberal.

don't be fooled by the fact that he and his brother both ran on the Conservative party.

[RitaOK]

Well, Isara, maybe Cruz should have said that— what you said.

When your bark overloads your brain, and you carelessly deliver an open ended implication against some one, or some region, you can reason the other guy or the other region can take from your attitude or context what ever they want and in any way that it strikes them.

Cruz gifted TRUMP with an opportunity to take a loosely woven insult, and run with it. TRUMP did exactly that. It works every time it’s tried, so why would TRUMP squander an opportunity, or look a gift horse in the mouth. Look at the results and remember it.

TRUMP is schooling the opposition.

TRUMP, 2016

[AdaGray]

I don’t think he is insulted. He is capitalizing on Cruz’s mistake.

[conservativesister]

If you gonna keep putting this up at least get it updated for Trump, because it sure ain’t right!

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

Click to hear Trump in his own words talking about New York values

[conservativesister]

How come nobody talks about Cruz beholding to Goldman?

[PoloSec]

I know what he meant but Cruz should have identified his remarks as meaning NYC elitist values, their NYC Mayors and Governors have for decades been progressive liberal elitists (both dem’s and rep’s), with the exception of Giuliani and it was his leadership that resulted in the people of NYC responding to the 9-11 attacks, and BTW any American city would have pulled together and responded in the same way and in fact Americans did without regard to expense, prejudice or hesitation come from every state to help not to mention tens of million who sent untold billions. To listen to Trump or liberals you would think NYC residents did all this by themselves (example of NYC leftist elitist values no credit to others), no the rubble would still be scattered across the site if it were not for all Americans responding and restoring.

NY is a large state but ruled by the overwhelming numbers of NYC and the surrounding burbs, they suffer greatly under NYC progressive liberal elitists values that do not represent the values of those outside of NYC and the immediate surrounding area’s.

Now all that being said as a Cruz supporter I will say as Cruz would and has said, I have great respect, appreciation and admiration for Donald J. Trump he has brought to this race attention and enthusiasm that otherwise may not have occurred at least the overwhelming degree we are seeing today.