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L train might shut down Manhattan-Brooklyn service in hipster nightmare
nypost.com ^ | 01/13/2016 | Danielle Furfaro and Frank Rosario

Posted on 01/14/2016 1:53:42 PM PST by BenLurkin

The MTA might totally shut down L-train service between Manhattan and Brooklyn for more than a year — creating a nightmare for hundreds of thousands of straphangers on the already cramped route.

The drastic measure on hipster heaven Williamsburg’s transit lifeline would be the quickest and cheapest way to repair damage to the 80-year-old Canarsie Tube under the East River caused by Hurricane Sandy, said MTA spokesman Adam Lisberg.

The step would be similar to when the MTA shut down R-train service through the Montague tunnel between Manhattan and Brooklyn for 14 months from August 2013 to September 2014 to repair Sandy damage to that aging tunnel.

"We could do what we did with Montague, where we shut the train down for more than a year," said Lisberg. “We do all the necessary work around the clock, doing it as fast as humanly possible and not forcing people to suffer through reduced service.”

But daily ridership through the Canarsie tunnel is 225,000, far more than the 65,000 daily passengers who take the R train through the Montague tunnel.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: US: New York
KEYWORDS: ltrain; nyc; publictransportation

1 posted on 01/14/2016 1:53:43 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Let the yuppies take the bus.


2 posted on 01/14/2016 1:55:03 PM PST by NonValueAdded (In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act)
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To: BenLurkin

Ferry service


3 posted on 01/14/2016 1:55:19 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: BenLurkin

They can always take Uber.


4 posted on 01/14/2016 1:57:27 PM PST by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: BenLurkin

For some of the riders farther out on the “L” line, a trip on the Long Island Railroad might work. For people closer in, it’s going to be a mess.


5 posted on 01/14/2016 1:57:36 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: BenLurkin

When a bridge is built here the original is left in place. Second bridge is built next to it When the second is operational the first is removed.


6 posted on 01/14/2016 1:59:20 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: NonValueAdded

I lived in Williamsburg in the 1990’s and yes, the L train is the only way. Can’t even imagine the hardship.


7 posted on 01/14/2016 2:04:58 PM PST by Hildy
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To: BenLurkin

Do like they do in your admired country china take a bike


8 posted on 01/14/2016 2:09:30 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: BenLurkin

Not needed, they are preparing for another Sandy, a 100-year flood. Service has been running fine leave it be and be happy collecting your outrageous fares.


9 posted on 01/14/2016 2:11:37 PM PST by Kenny500c
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To: NonValueAdded

Unfortunately, the selfish brats will probably start a campaign to get a high-speed monorail built between the two points.

It matters not the cost nor the inconvenience nor what it destroys, these brats want to be able to email their European friends that they take a high-speed monorail to and from NYC. That’s all that matters.

Trust me. I lived in the city of Seassholes for 10 years. The idiot young hipsters will destroy anything to feel hipper.


10 posted on 01/14/2016 2:11:42 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Carter...Reagan...Bush...Clinton....Bush....Carter....BUSH? / CLINTON? STOP THE INSANITY!)
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To: BenLurkin

And if they didn’t repair it and the tunnel collapsed or whatever killing hundreds then the MSM would have had a field day with it more so than they will when it closes.


11 posted on 01/14/2016 2:13:33 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: hoosiermama
When a bridge is built here the original is left in place. Second bridge is built next to it When the second is operational the first is removed.

The problem here is that they are not building a new tunnel, they are repairing the old tunnels (two tunnels, one in each direction). Building a new tunnel would take much, much longer and would be much, much more costly.

One solution they have considered is keeping one of the two tunnels open while they fix the other, and running trains one direction at a time through the working tunnel, but that would be a worse logistical mess than just shutting both tunnels and fixing them both at the same time.

12 posted on 01/14/2016 2:13:53 PM PST by dem bums
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To: SkyDancer
And if they didn’t repair it and the tunnel collapsed or whatever killing hundreds then the MSM would have had a field day with it more so than they will when it closes.

The repairs are necessary, but the situation is not quite that dire. The tunnels are structurally sound - the problem is the subway equipment in the tunnels. The tunnels took on salt water during Hurricane Sandy, which has caused erosion of the old electrical equipment in the tubes. To date, they have been fixing things piecemeal, but they eventually have to basically strip everything out and re-do the entire interior of the tunnels.

They did a similar project in one of the other tunnels (the R train, which runs between Brooklyn and the very bottom of Manhattan). That tunnel was shut down for a little over a year, which was a bit of a pain in the a**, but was mitigated by the fact that there were a ton of alternative subway lines serving (roughly) the same parts of Brooklyn and Manhattan (the A, B, C, D, F, J, M, Z, 2, 3, 4, and 5 lines). By contrast, where the L runs between Brooklyn and Manhattan, there are really no alternative routes.

13 posted on 01/14/2016 2:22:10 PM PST by dem bums
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To: dem bums

Thanks for that. As one who was born in Brooklyn and raised in Queens for a bit I like stories about that area; folks moved to Washington state when I was seven.


14 posted on 01/14/2016 2:24:29 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: NonValueAdded

they’re not yuppies. many yuppies are conservative.

they are hipsters, ultra left wingers who gobbled up all the real estate after blacks could no longer afford their own neighborhood, but will be the first to decry the injustices done to blacks.

TOFU, Yoga and organic restaurants have popped up like pimple on a teen boy’s face.

this story has lifted my spirits for the day.


15 posted on 01/14/2016 2:44:35 PM PST by dp0622 (i .)
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To: BenLurkin

I can’ believe they call them “hipsters”.

I haven’t heard that in years.

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16 posted on 01/14/2016 3:24:32 PM PST by Mears
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To: dem bums

Maybe they could borrow “Big Bertha” to dig a new tunnel/s


17 posted on 01/14/2016 3:28:24 PM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: BenLurkin

Maybe now it’ll get less “cool” for the rich posers and real artists will afford to move back in


18 posted on 01/14/2016 3:39:51 PM PST by varyouga
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To: BenLurkin
They could always...
19 posted on 01/14/2016 3:45:43 PM PST by Company Man (Hillary for Prison 2016)
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