Ted Cruz Says Trump “Embodies New York Values”

BuzzFeed ^ | January 12, 2016 | Christopher Massie

[C19fan]

Ted Cruz said on Tuesday that Donald Trump “embodies New York values,” and that Trump’s constant attacks on him are a sign that the businessman is worried about his front-runner status in the race. Cruz made the comment on the Howie Carr Show, after the host asked him about Trump playing Bruce Springsteen’s “Born in the USA”, a reference to the allegation, recently trumpeted by Trump, that Cruz may be ineligible to serve as president because he was born in Canada.

[HarleyLady27]

Yes Trump does...he was born there, raised there, built tall buildings and other buildings there, he lives there, the people there love him....he is Mr. New York....

To bad Ted can't have a solid ground like this...he was born in Canada and still doesn't know if he's legal or not, his parents both of them married before to other people, and now divorced from each other...it takes an affect on young ones growing up...

Trumps children are all East Coast, have their own businesses and working with their father in his business...Ivanka is over the Washington D.C. Hotel doing great, Under budget and Ahead of Schedule...Eric is busy with charity work for St. Jude's Hospital and other charity functions, plus working for his father's business...Donald Jr. is doing everything with his father's business...they are very solid people in their own rights...and here is Trump going to be a ‘grandpa’ again...oh my...what a great family to represent the Untied States of America after the soon to be 8 horrid years of obuma....

[musicman]

[doorgunner69]

Indeed, which is what holds me back from major enthusiasm for the man.

Cruz has always been preferable to me, Texas I understand.

[buckeye49]

Please post and repost your lifetime New Yorker reply. These are the values we no longer can put up with The heroic values of 911 are the country’s values.

[House Atreides]

Well Ted, there is another thing that Trump embodies, and that is New York’s 29 electoral votes should he be the nominee, the first GOP candidate to pull that off since ‘84.

Could Ted do the same?

The Magic 8-Ball responds “Signs Sadly Point To No”
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Well, it’s possible that Trump could pull that off. But so did Barack Hussein Obama, what did that get America?

[House Atreides]

To whom has Trump delegated the task of the continuous recruitment of non-citizens from overseas to come work at his STATESIDE properties?

[mkjessup]

What do you have to support your assertion that in the general election Trump will win New York? I'm not trying to pick a fight and I don't want to get into a Trump/Cruz battle. This is a serious question. If you can convince me, with evidence, that Trump will win NY, I'd consider supporting him over Cruz.

I think the best way to begin is to explain why it is unlikely that Cruz can win New York in the general election (presumably without Trump on the ticket). As everyone knows, New York has been in the 'RAT camp since 1988, the last Republican to carry New York was Ronald Reagan in 1984. For Cruz to capture New York for the GOP column, he would have to shed his image as a conservative, evangelistic Senator from Texas. Cruz is not "one of them" and his comment about 'New York values' is probably going to come back to haunt him, and that is another example of him NOT playing smart politics. New Yorkers will find it a bit off-putting when Cruz rallies begin or end up in some sort of 'come-to-Jesus' moment with calls to "put on the full armor of God", and just this past week Cruz said "I believe the key to winning in 2016 is very simple: we have to bring back the millions of evangelical voters who stayed home. We have to awaken and energise the body of Christ." (emphasis mine, mkj).

I would not expect Cruz to change his campaign approach in order to appeal to New Yorkers, his own personal commitment to Christ would prohibit him from engaging in such spiritual hypocrisy. The sad truth is that New Yorkers are not looking to elect a Pope, a chaplain, or any sort of religious figure, they want a strong, brash all-business leader who knows how to play smash-ball with the best (and worst) of them.

Trump is obviously a native New Yorker, he is certainly more of a New Yorker than Hillary Rotten Criminal and her success in becoming New York's junior Senator in 2000 was not due to her amazing political skills, it was based more on the weakness of her Republican opponents. Trump has been good for New York, and New York has been good for him, and like him or not (and like New York or not), that is a truism. New Yorkers will almost always stick with 'one of their own' and by definition that means Trump.

And an additional factor: Trump would expend whatever effort necessary to assure his carrying his home state. I don't think it would be an uphill battle at all. A political candidate really has to be an institutional loser (like Al Gore) to lose their own home state, and just because Hillary and Huma keep a house in Chappaqua, doesn't make them true New Yorkers. Trump wins that contest hands down.

In the end, there isn't any way to convince you to support Trump instead of Cruz, both men are in my opinion, good and decent Americans, and I could vote for either one of them. The political reality as I see it is that Trump would be more likely to prevail in the general election based not only on his own broad based appeal, but due to Cruz's more narrow appeal to primarily evangelical Christians, and Cruz has to sweep the board with that voting bloc to even have a chance of bringing it all together for an electoral win.

Vote your conscience, and vote your gut.

[mkjessup]

Well, it’s possible that Trump could pull that off. But so did Barack Hussein Obama, what did that get America?

You are certainly not so stupid as to actually suggest that Obama and Trump are one and the same, are you?

[House Atreides]

Jeez, did I say that?

[georgiegirl]

Has Cruz so quickly forgotten the selfless firemen and policemen who gave their lives after 9/11? The whole nation hailed them as heroes. They were New York value-ables.

[from occupied ga]

unfortunately there is the other side of the coin with de Blasio and his ilk.

Not to mention Schumer and 0bama. I believe Manhattan went 84% for the turd in the last presidential election with 92% of the Bronx going for the turd and 82% of Brooklyn. and who can forget Caroly McCarthy of long island repeatedly elected sololy on her promise to destroy the second amendment? These are NY values

[trisham]

The Great State of New York
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"New York is a state in the Northeastern region of the United States. New York is the 27th most extensive, the 3rd most populous, and the 7th most densely populated of the 50 United States. New York is bordered by New Jersey and Pennsylvania to the south, and by Connecticut, Massachusetts and Vermont to the east. The state has a maritime border with Rhode Island east of Long Island, as well as an international border with the Canadian provinces of Ontario to the west and north, and Quebec to the north. The state of New York is often referred to as New York State to distinguish it from New York City."

source: Wikipedia

"At night- the streets become rhythmical perspectives of glowing dotted lines, reflections hung upon them in the streets as the wistaria hangs its violet racemes on its trellis. The buildings are shimmering verticality, a gossamer veil, a festive scene-prop hanging there against the black sky to dazzle, entertain, amaze."
Frank Lloyd Wright

Thank you, New York FReepers!
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[Psalm 144]

“What has Ted accomplished in the Senate?”

Less than wifey has in the Bush administration and at Goldman Sachs.

[TornadoAlley3]

If Trump can make it there, he’ll make it anywhere, it’s up to you....

[rrrod]

Although Im a supporter of Trump, I can easily vote for Crus too. Crus bring up Trump’s NY roots is a big hit. Americans hate NYers ...always have always will.

[HarleyLady27]

Aw your slipping... you can do better than that...I could even make a good sounding article for Cruz...why don’t you try it, not that it will change any of us Trump Supporters minds, but you could do it if you spend a lot of time trying to find things that Cruz has done....

[MayflowerMadam]

Mr. Cruz, I’m from New York and I resent that.

[House Atreides]

I guess you misunderstood my question.

To whom has Trump delegated the task of the continuous recruitment of non-citizens from overseas to come work at his STATESIDE properties?

[AustinBill]

What do you have to support your assertion that in the general election Trump will win New York?

Trump will win NY for several reasons. First, you have to understand that NY outside of NYC leans Republican. So for a Republican to win NY you have to focus on how he'll do in NYC. As a native of the City and having worked NYC politics for decades, Trump has a knowledge of the city that's second to none. He's also a home-town hero there and embodies the sort of bad-boy brashness that NYers love. That's a huge asset.

Trump doesn't even have to win NYC to win NY. All he has to do is move the needle away from the 90% Democratic that NYC typically votes to something more balanced. Given how he's resonating with the working class, blacks, and women, this is a low bar to set. Trump's daughter Ivanka is also married to Joshua Kushner, who is part of one of NYC's most influential Jewish families, giving Trump a blood-bond with a major demographic that also historically votes overwhelmingly Democratic.

Count on it. NY will be called for Trump early, setting the tone for a very depressing evening for Team Hillary.

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The jury's still out on how tough Ted is.

But the fact that he didn't get drawn into food fights and flame wars with the other guys until now is definitely a point in Cruz's favor.

I certainly don't think he's the new Reagan, but in being an adult in the debates he was Reaganesque.