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Give Women the Right to Defend Themselves
Gatestone Institute ^ | January 13, 2016 | Geert Wilders and Machiel de Graaf

Posted on 01/13/2016 9:04:29 AM PST by george76

Taharrush is the Arabic word for the phenomenon whereby women are encircled by groups of men and sexually harassed, assaulted, groped, raped

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A culture that has a specific word for sexual assaults of women by groups of men is a danger to all women

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The Islamic world is steeped in misogyny. The Koran explicitly states that a woman is worth only half a man (Suras 2: 228, 2: 282, 4:11), that women are unclean (5:6), and that a man can have sex with his wife whenever he wants (24:31). The Koran even says that men are allowed to have sex slaves (4:24), and that they have the right to rape women whom they have captured (24:31).

The hadiths, the descriptions of the life of Muhammad, the ideal human being whose example all the Islamic faithful must follow, confirm that women are sex objects, that they are inferior beings like dogs and donkeys, and that there is nothing wrong with sexual slavery and raping female prisoners.

Taharrush is quite common in Islamic countries. Women are frequently surrounded by men and subsequently abused. The Egyptian website Jadaliyya points out that it also happens to veiled women.

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In 2011, the American television journalist Lara Logan had her clothes ripped off and ... Now, along with the flow of migrants from the Islamic world, the phenomenon also reached Europe. The elite tried to keep it hidden from the people, but they cannot do so anymore.

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Islam means submission. And there is a good reason for it. The arrival of Islam has led to the curtailment of Western freedoms under the threat of violence. And this threat will only increase

(Excerpt) Read more at gatestoneinstitute.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Egypt; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; Syria; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: g42; hadiths; hijrah; invasion; islam; jihad; koran; misogyny; moslems; muhammad; muslims; taharrush; taharrushgame; waronwomen; women

1 posted on 01/13/2016 9:04:29 AM PST by george76
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To: george76
A culture that has a specific word for sexual assaults of women by groups of men is a danger to all women

Gangbang!?

2 posted on 01/13/2016 9:07:09 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: george76

Yet, the stupid liberals will still side with islam. They are mentally ill.


3 posted on 01/13/2016 9:07:35 AM PST by refermech
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To: Don Corleone

“Swinging” is the word the degenerate liberals use.


4 posted on 01/13/2016 9:12:09 AM PST by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: refermech

No. They’re just American educated.


5 posted on 01/13/2016 9:17:02 AM PST by onedoug
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To: george76

Women worldwide already have the God-given right to defend themselves. What they need is the knowledge and the courage to exercise that right. A knife to the groin, to the throat, or to the kidney could permanently solve the problem posed by any individual rapist. A few thousand dead rapists, or tens of thousands (I’m okay with that!), and the rest of the thugs would get a whole lot more cautious.

I’m not a democrat, so I support women. I’ll cheer every time a woman solves this problem herself. Even where guns are banned/regulated/restricted, knives are tools, and women have easy access to them.


6 posted on 01/13/2016 9:21:45 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: All

This is a bit off topic, I know, BUT I don’t know who else to ask. It’s been said that allah is the islamic moon god - is there some source to which anyone can point? Is it anywhere in the koran or hadith or sura that mohammed took one of the pagan gods they worshiped at the time, the mood god, and called it allah?


7 posted on 01/13/2016 9:32:07 AM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: george76

Never bring a penis to a gun fight or gunpowder bang beats gangbang.


8 posted on 01/13/2016 9:34:07 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Satan attacks weaklings, by demographic.)
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To: george76

I was surprised to discover at the bottom of the article that in the Netherlands it is illegal for women to carry pepper spray. When Geert Wilders is talking about women’s right to defend themselves, he is specifically advocating
women’s right to carry, not a firearm, but pepper spray!


9 posted on 01/13/2016 9:36:19 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Mark Twain)
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To: jackibutterfly
The real problem here was not the Arabic word "Allah" , which indeed had pagan origins as did every word for God in every language.

Pagan words for God were ALWAYS adopted by Christians when these pagan areas were evangelized.

Terms first used by pagans:

I don't dispute at all that Islam had pagan origins.

Names with 'el' as one of their components were common in the Near East in the second millennium BC. Linguistic cognates include ancient Semitic El, biblical Hebrew Elohim (God or/of gods), Arabic 'ilah ("a" god), Arabic Allah ("the" God) and biblical Aramaic Elah (God).

In the Mosaic period, 'el was synonymous with the Lord who delivered the Israelites from bondage in Egypt.

Muhammad was an intentional religious charlatan, a delusional paranoid schizophrenic and/or a demon-infested soul who picked up random 'religious' concepts like Velcro picks up lint. However his adoption/borrowing of the word "Allah" (long used by both neighboring Arabic-speaking pagans and Arabic-speaking Christians) is not the problem.

The Koran is a (comparatively) minor problem.

The Hadith, and Shari'a, are much bigger problems.

And, more than anything, Muhammad himself--- a wicked, bloody-handed, slave monger, demon-infested, lecherous, war lord/false prophet --- is the big, the catastrophic, fundamental root problem.

10 posted on 01/13/2016 9:48:40 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Allah Fubar.)
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To: george76

Give?

No. Women, take. Ask for forgiveness, not permission.


11 posted on 01/13/2016 9:51:22 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: george76

ROP bkmk.


12 posted on 01/13/2016 10:19:44 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: refermech
Yet, the stupid liberals will still side with islam. They are mentally ill.

Beyond that, if we support it (anything), they will knee-jerk oppose it. But then, don't we do the same? We are loath to give credence to anything of lib origin, even if by some miracle it was practical and worked!

13 posted on 01/13/2016 10:47:25 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thanks so much, Mrs. Don-o. The reason I’m asking is that the Catholic Church says that muslims & Christians worship the same God, which I don’t believe is true. I’ve read that mohammad took one of the 13(?) pagan gods they worshiped at that time, the moon god, to worship as their one god. If so, where can I find the source?


14 posted on 01/13/2016 10:53:13 AM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: JimRed

Quite correct, there are many all or nothing voters. To our detriment. I am not one of those. Still taken in toto I cannot vote democrat and haven’t for many years.


15 posted on 01/13/2016 11:03:22 AM PST by refermech
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To: jackibutterfly
As I mentioned, Arabic-speaking Christians used the term Allah for almost half a millennium before Muhammad was even born. If anything, Muhammad's use of 'Allah" was a cultural appropriation from Christianity.

The APostles miraculously spoke Arabic to the Arabic-speaking Jews at Pentecost (Acts 2:11)

"[We are] both Jews and converts to Judaism, Cretans and Arabs, and yet we hear them speaking in our own tongues of the mighty acts of God."

and thus the One True God has been called Allah since Pentecost.

Muhammad identified the God he was worshiping as Allah (same as the Christian God/Allah), the Creator of all that exists, the giver of Moral Law, the God of Ibrahim, Ishaq, and Yaqub (Abraham, Isaac and Jacob), the God of Moses and of David (Musa and Dawud), the God of Mary and of Jesus (Maryam and Isa).

So clearly this is the Christian and Jewish God.

However, there are a lot of untrue things said about this God/Allah in the Koran, chief of which is that God (Allah) 'neither begets nor is he begotten': an explicit denial of the Trinity.

One could say the Jews deny the Trinity, too; but this is not made explicit in the Jewish Sacred Scriptures. The Korean makes it explicit: "Say not 'Three' --- Cease! (it is) better for you! --- Allah is only One Allah."

So this is the Christian God, culturally appropriated from the Arabic-speaking Christians, but seriously distorted.

They also believe in Isa (Jesus) but deny that He is the Son of God. Interestingly, though, they believe in His Second Coming: they believe He will come back on the Last Day to be the Judge of all mankind.

So it is the same God (since there is only one God, we all know that); but there is a mix of truth and falsehood about Him in their so-called Scriptures; there are basically erroneous things taught about Him in the Koran.

16 posted on 01/13/2016 1:52:01 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Allah Fubar.)
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To: jackibutterfly
My point here is that you can pursue the Moon God angle if you want, but it may not make the point you want it to make, since the Christians too used the word "Allah" for 500+ years before Muhammad raided his first caravan.

And Arabic-speaking Christians (e.g. Melkite and Assyrian Christians in the Middle East, as well as millions of Christians in Indonesia and Malaysia) still to this day use the word "Allah" for the God of the Bible. As in, "We believe in Allah, the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit")

17 posted on 01/13/2016 2:44:51 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Allah Fubar.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Mrs. Don-o - thanks so much for your time and effort - I think your explanation helps.


18 posted on 01/13/2016 4:55:48 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: george76
The Egyptian website Jadaliyya points out that it also happens to veiled women. Women are victims simply because they are women and not because they have provoked the men by their conduct or "provocative" clothing.
19 posted on 01/15/2016 4:34:23 AM PST by Tax-chick (Would everyone just stop FUSSING all the time, please?)
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