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Universal background checks have already been tried
Idaho Statesman ^ | 7 January, 2016 | Clayton Cramer

Posted on 01/08/2016 6:17:47 PM PST by marktwain

As President Obama plans to pass new gun-control measures by executive order to extend the reach of background checks to all private sales, you may be wondering why there is such opposition to requiring all private-party gun sales to go through the same background check that gun dealers do.

Evidence should drive public policy, not hope. If a policy has been tried, has it produced the desired results?

This may be a surprise, but many states already have mandatory background checks for all firearm transfers, or for all handgun transfers; it is already a federal crime to transfer guns to another person across state lines without going through a licensed gun dealer, with very few limited exceptions.

How have those mandatory background checks worked out? A method of public policy analysis widely used by social scientists is called Interrupted Time Series Analysis (ITSA). Look at the problem you are trying to fix, then see if the problem changes when you pass a law that is supposed to fix that problem. Eight states adopted such laws for mandatory gun-background checks after 1960 (when the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting system began to produce reasonably accurate and consistent data). I used the murder rates for five years before the effective date of the law and five years after to evaluate the effectiveness of such mandatory background check laws, using ITSA.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: backgroundchecks; banglist; claytoncramer; ubc
Clayton Cramer does a good job at showing that intergalactic background checks do not work.
1 posted on 01/08/2016 6:17:47 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

The people posting on the website about this article are enough to make your head explode.


2 posted on 01/08/2016 6:29:32 PM PST by Twotone (Truth is hate to those who hate truth.)
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To: marktwain

Every federal gun law is unconstitutional. Every single one.


3 posted on 01/08/2016 6:35:42 PM PST by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: marktwain

To any lib lurkers out there. If you think universal background checks will in any way impact illegal gun trafficking, why not carry that over to narcotics too? Why not pass a law requiring all private drugs sales get a prescription from a doctor? Same ghing. Think that would stop criminals? Of course not. Well, your cherished background checks idea is every bit as ludicrous.


4 posted on 01/08/2016 6:38:36 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

I have finally come to the conclusion your garden variety liberal who says they want to reduce crime via gun control is not admitting to themselves what they really mean.
It really upsets them that they can’t use the government to tell us how to do every little thing and take over our lives. They see Americans owning guns as the obstacle that must be overcome in order for them to run every aspect of our lives.


5 posted on 01/08/2016 6:45:00 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Ignore the socialist blame the guns solution but not the short term revolving door sentencing when a firearm is used. Offered by the Godless blame the gun marxist democrats and their MSM mush head robots Too frequently using poor social conditions as their misguided excuse for quick releases.

If those who participated in the use of a firearm as a first offence during the execution of any criminal activity. When accused and were judged guilty. Then sentenced and given a mandatory minimum 50 year sentence with denied probation . Would current serious injuries and murder rates drop when blamed on the use of guns?


6 posted on 01/08/2016 6:53:41 PM PST by mosesdapoet (My best insights get lost in FR's because of meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: marktwain

None of the so-called mass shooting have involved firearms purchased from private parties.

Universal background checks will lead to registration.


7 posted on 01/08/2016 6:57:45 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Trump or Cruz in 2016. No others need apply.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

That is what they are designed to do.

People have proposed systems that prevent registration, but allow background checks.

The disarmists types will have none of them. If it does not lead to registration, they do not want it. Period.


8 posted on 01/08/2016 7:09:15 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I remember when Tulsa and Oklahoma City required gun buyers to get fingerprinted.
Tulsa you did it when buying the gun.
OKC required you to go down to the Administration building.

After years, it was found that no crimes were ever prevented by fingerprinting gun buyers so it stopped. I bet they still have copies and copies of my fingerprints somewhere.

Back east, some state required all new firearms to have a fired case sent to the state crime lab. The local newspaper screamed about how it was necessary to prevent crime.

After years of no cases being solved by empty cases, the SAME newspaper called for the program to end.


9 posted on 01/08/2016 7:31:56 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: marktwain

Everything about gun control is incrementalism and the holy grail of incremental gun control is universal background checks, which is the single biggest step toward registration.


10 posted on 01/08/2016 7:38:48 PM PST by umgud
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To: marktwain
I hate to post such a long essay, but this is what the citizens of California have to go through in order to purchase a firearm:

The California background check begins with the completion and submission of a Dealer Record of Sales (DROS).

The DROS application is sent to Cal. DOJ's Consolidated Firearms Information System, which is a computerized system. CFIS coordinates the electronic portion of the background check process, called the Basic Firearms Eligibility Check, by sending inquiries to other electronic databases and compiling the responses.

The first database queried as part of the BFEC is California‟s Department of Motor Vehicles database. The identification information on the DROS application is verified with DMV for several reasons: to ensure that the background check is run on the correct person, to prevent the occurrence of straw purchases, and to prevent people from using fake identification to purchase firearms.

Once a DROS application successfully passes the DMV database check, the next step in the BFEC process is for the DROS application to be queried against the Automated Firearms System (AFS) database. The AFS database checks to see if the subject firearm has been reported as lost or stolen.

Registrations of certain weapons classified as assault weapons from 1989 to 2001 are contained in the AFS. The AFS also contains records of CCW license holders. The AFS also contains law enforcement reports of weapons that have been identified as being lost, stolen, evidence, held for safekeeping, or retained for official use. Finally, the AFS contains voluntary reports of people who have obtained a firearm by various methods, such as operation of law, an inter-family transfer, or transfers relating to curios and relic collections.

If a gun passes the AFS database check, and if the subject gun is a handgun, then the CFIS conducts a 30-day purchase-restriction check. CFIS checks within its own database to determine whether the DROS applicant purchased another handgun within the previous 30 days. If the DROS applicant purchased another handgun within 30 days, then the background check stops and the DROS application is denied.

The next step in the BFEC process for all firearms is for the DROS application to be queried against the Automated Criminal History System ACHS. ACHS is a state database that contains criminal history information reported to Cal. DOJ by criminal justice agencies in California.

As part of the initial check, ACHS also will query three other databases: the Wanted Persons System (WPS) database, the California Restraining and Protective Order System (CARPOS) database, and the Mental Health Firearms Prohibition System (MHFPS)database.

WPS is a California state database that contains records of warrant information.

CARPOS is a California state database that contains information on restraining and protective orders.

MHFPS is a California state database that contains mental health records and records of certain prohibited juveniles.

After the ACHS, WPS, CARPOS, or MHFPS queries are complete, the next step in the BFEC process is for the DROS application to be queried against the federal National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) database.

Also similar to ACHS, NICS will conduct a search of its own database as well as a search of three other federal databases: the Interstate Identification Index (III) database, the National Crime Information Center (NCIC)database, and the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) database>

After the NICS check is completed, the BFEC is considered complete. All results obtained by CFIS through the BFEC's search of databases are attached to the DROS application, and those DROS applications for which there is a hit/match are placed into the DROS processing queue for a CIS Analyst to review.

Not all DROS applications go to the processing queue for an analyst to review. If a DROS application has been checked by all of the databases, and there are no hits or matches found in any of the databases, then that DROS application is considered autoapproved and is not put into any queue for a CIS Analyst to review.

So much for the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Eleven databases are checked; how screwed is that?

11 posted on 01/08/2016 7:40:16 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

State and local, too.

The First Amendment is binding only on Congress. The Second is binding on anyone who even squints sideways at someone else’s weapon.


12 posted on 01/08/2016 8:13:38 PM PST by ExGeeEye (Mohammed was a war mongering pedophile rapist who started a Satanic death cult. Arrest me, Lynch.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Your average liberal is anything but “liberal.” Modern liberals have far more in common with fascists than any truly liberating thought.


13 posted on 01/08/2016 9:22:09 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: marktwain

One of the reasons our Founders fought so hard and were so adamant about the 2nd amendment was that the Battle of Culloden was still a living memory. And so was what the Brits did before, during and after.


14 posted on 01/08/2016 9:38:03 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: 45Auto

Eleven databases are checked; how screwed is that?

...

Isn’t the lack of gun crime and Muslim terrorist mass killings with guns worth it?

Oh wait... Never mind.


15 posted on 01/08/2016 9:44:47 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: marktwain
Some folks on FOX were opining that Obama's mantra about, "If we can stop even one death..." might make more sense and be more believable if he were to shut down the borders to the refugees because, "if we could prevent even one act of terror..."

They then concluded that making us safe is not part of his real agenda.

FOX ain't perfect but there are a few with some conservative bents and some common sense to go with it.

16 posted on 01/09/2016 4:15:38 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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