Posted on 01/08/2016 6:00:09 PM PST by FR_addict
A document uncovered by Breitbart News indicates that the parents of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) were named on a Calgary list of electors for Canada's federal election of July 8, 1974. Ted Cruz parents are listed as Cruz, Eleanor, Mrs. nd Cruz, Raphael, self employed, both at 920 Riverdale Avenue, South West in Calgary, Alberta.
Canadian law restricts (and restricted) federal voting rights to Canadian citizens.
In a statement to Breitbart News—the full text of which follows this article—Jason Johnson, chief strategist for Cruz for President, said that “the document itself does not purport to be a list of ‘registered Canadian voters.’ All this might conceivably establish is that this list of individuals (maybe) lived at the given addresses. It says nothing about who was a citizen eligible to vote.â€
Johnson added: Eleanor was never a citizen of Canada, and she could not have been under the facts or the law. In short, she did not live in Canada long enough to be a Canadian citizen by the time Cruz was born in 1970: Canadian law required 5 years of permanent residence, and she moved to Canada in December 1967—only 3 years before Senator Cruz’s birth. ...
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Because the US Government REQUIRES a passport to re-enter the US from ALL citizens, natural born or naturalized. I am a NBC - both parents were US citizens and I was born in Florida. I still have a passport and still have to present it when I return to the US from my international travels.
It Is only recently that a passport is required to re enter the US from Mexico and Canada.
True, but that new requirement applies to both naturalized and natural born citizens. In other words, all citizens are required to provide proof of identity that is acceptable to the government (passport) in order to enter into the US, if such admittance is to be legal.
Being a NBC does not excuse one from that requirement.
IIRC, Cruz and his wife traveled to somewhere in Central America to dig water wells. He would have needed a passport for that travel.
“OK, fine. Then why not release the records? What is he hiding?”
What records do you want? A copy of Cruz’s birth certificate has been on FR and his mother’s birth certificate has been on FR.
How about, I think Trump is 1/2 Chinese and not qualified to be president and until I see a record he is not Chinese, then he is. That makes as much sense as your wanting more Cruz records.
Your birth record is not public record. Only you and certain state departments have access to your birth record. The Secretary of State, elections dept., of your state, has access to your birth record to determine if you are a citizen of the US before you can become a registered voter.
“If Cruz is a NBC, why would he need a pass port?”
Because he was in Canada. An American in Canada needs a passport to go to the USA. Every passenger on a plane going from one country to another has to have a passport so the receiving country knows the nationality of that person.
My grandson is a natural born US citizen born in London - his father is a US Citizen. He received an American passport the day he was born. When he comes to this country, he lines up in the US citizen line through US customs. His mother is English and she has to get in the out of country customs line.
I am not saying that. What I was trying to get at is that if he is a US citizen, he would not need a passport to enter the US from Canada.
“Cruz was a Citizen of the United States of America at birth. His Mother was a United States Citizen when her Son was born, end of story. You are either a Citizen at Birth or you are a Naturalized Citizen. Cruz was not Naturalized.”
That is way too simple for Trump supporters - their brain cells only connect to what Trump brain cells are saying from moment to moment.
I have said over and over Cruz was just like my grandson who was born in London to an American father and grandson was issued an American passport the day he was born. He was not naturalized, therefore he is a natural born citizen, just as Cruz was natural born.
It is just recently that passports are required for Canada and Mexico.
My point is that with Cruz being a US citizen he wouldn't need a passport to enter the US from Canada.
Where does it say he needed a passport to enter the US from Canada?
Today parents can get a CRBA, a CRBA and a passport or just a passport for children born abroad. Either the CRBA or the passport are proof of citizenship.
He's also a British Subject.
“No, at age 4 he would have entered the country on his mother’s passport.”
Not necessarily. My grandson was a natural born American citizen, born in London. He came to this country at age 2 under his American Passport. His father, a natural born American citizen, took him through the American Citizen customs line in Houston, Texas. His mother, a British citizen, had to go through the out of country customs line.
That grandson graduates from high school next year in England and will come to this country as a natural born American Citizen to attend either MIT or Harvard. Those contacts are already made.
“The language of the Constitution, as has been well said, could not be understood without reference to the common law.â€
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law of these states. I conceive, therefore, that there is nothing in that Constitution to hinder a dismemberment of the empire.
THURSDAY, June 19, 1788.[1] Mr. George Mason
The Constitutional Committee adhered to Vattel and not to English Common Law. Blackstone vs Vattel is resolved several times in the course of the Constitutional Committee with Vattel supreme.
Exactly. My son, a natural born American Citizen was working in London when his son was born. Grandson is a natural born citizen and received his natural born American Passport the day he was born. Both you and I have lived this situation and know those children were natural born citizens. Neither you nor I will be able to convince some Trump supporters of the facts because they are unable to use their faculties for anything except the promotion of a liberal Trump who has no basis for his edicts except to make sensational headlines to keep his name before the public.
“The Constitutional Committee adhered to Vattel and not to English Common Law. Blackstone vs Vattel is resolved several times in the course of the Constitutional Committee with Vattel supreme.”
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vattel never wrote about natural born citizens. The Founders did not require the President to be a “native citizen” or an “indigenous citizen” - which would follow Vattel - but a “natural born citizen”, a term used interchangeably with the English common law term “natural born subject”.
“The Constitution nowhere defines the meaning of these words, either by way of inclusion or of exclusion, except insofar as this is done by the affirmative declaration that “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.” In this as in other respects, it must be interpreted in the light of the common law, the principles and history of which were familiarly known to the framers of the Constitution. Minor v. Happersett, 21 Wall. 162; Ex parte Wilson, 114 U.S. 417, 422; Boyd v. United States, 116 U.S. 616, 624, 625; Smith v. Alabama, 124 U.S. 465. The language of the Constitution, as has been well said, could not be understood without reference to the common law. Kent Com. 336; Bradley, J., in Moore v. United States, 91 U.S. 270, 274. [p655]
In Minor v. Happersett, Chief Justice Waite, when construing, in behalf of the court, the very provision of the Fourteenth Amendment now in question, said: “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that.” And he proceeded to resort to the common law as an aid in the construction of this provision. 21 Wall. 167.
In Smith v. Alabama, Mr. Justice Matthews, delivering the judgment of the court, said:
There is no common law of the United States, in the sense of a national customary law, distinct from the common law of England as adopted by the several States each for itself, applied as its local law, and subject to such alteration as may be provided by its own statutes. . . . There is, however, one clear exception to the statement that there is no national common law. The interpretation of the Constitution of the United States is necessarily influenced by the fact that its provisions are framed in the language of the English common law, and are to be read in the light of its history.”
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/169/649
That was true between Canada and the US (and Mexico) at that time but that does not mean he did not already have an American Passport. I have said my grandson born in England was issued an American Passport the day he was born. We do not know the exact time Cruz’s mom got his American Passport but she could have had it issued the day he was born, just as my grandson did. With Canadian rules the way they are today, she would have gotten it before bringing him here.
Perhaps she did bring him here without a passport due to their lax rules then. If that was the case, the first time he left this country, he would have gotten one in order to travel. He was natural born just as my grandson.
Exactly. My son, a natural born American Citizen was working in London when his son was born. Grandson is a natural born citizen and received his natural born American Passport the day he was born.
The difference is crystal clear. Your grandson is a citizen because the FATHER was a citizen, as well as the mother. (Which is why anchor babies are citizens, but not NBC, They are born here, but the parents are not citizens).
He received an American passport the day he was born.
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Aren’t you stretching that a bit? “Received the day he was born.” I call that a lie. My granddaughter was born in England to an English mother while her husband, my son, was on the front lines in the First gulf War. My son is a natural born citizen, yet my granddaughter had duel citizenship until the age of 18 at which time she had to choose her nationality. She chose American.
According to James Madison the delegates referenced Blackstone’s Commentaries to resolve questions on legal terms and concepts such as “ex post facto laws”.
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