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Exclusive: 1974 Canadian Electors’ List Named Ted Cruz’s Parents
Breitbart.com ^ | Jan. 8 2016 | Joel B. Pollak

Posted on 01/08/2016 6:00:09 PM PST by FR_addict

A document uncovered by Breitbart News indicates that the parents of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) were named on a Calgary list of electors for Canada's federal election of July 8, 1974. Ted Cruz parents are listed as Cruz, Eleanor, Mrs. nd Cruz, Raphael, self employed, both at 920 Riverdale Avenue, South West in Calgary, Alberta.

Canadian law restricts (and restricted) federal voting rights to Canadian citizens.

In a statement to Breitbart News—the full text of which follows this article—Jason Johnson, chief strategist for Cruz for President, said that “the document itself does not purport to be a list of ‘registered Canadian voters.’ All this might conceivably establish is that this list of individuals (maybe) lived at the given addresses. It says nothing about who was a citizen eligible to vote.”

Johnson added: Eleanor was never a citizen of Canada, and she could not have been under the facts or the law. In short, she did not live in Canada long enough to be a Canadian citizen by the time Cruz was born in 1970: Canadian law required 5 years of permanent residence, and she moved to Canada in December 1967—only 3 years before Senator Cruz’s birth. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canadian; cruz; ineligible; marklevin; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; spuriousborn; trump
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To: Mollypitcher1

Could this be one of the reasons behind the push for an Article V? I supported it, until I realized that the commies were not the only risk.


121 posted on 01/08/2016 8:20:30 PM PST by KGeorge (I will miss you forever, Miss Mu. 7/1/2006- 11/16/2015)
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To: Mr Rogers

Wow, you get so close that you are in charge of Trumps farts, or are you there panning for gold dust?


122 posted on 01/08/2016 8:21:37 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

They used the term widely known at the time from Vattel’s writings, NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!What you think doesn’t matter. What the Founders thought, does.


123 posted on 01/08/2016 8:22:56 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: A CA Guy

His comments on this subject, as on many others, generate a lot of heat and almost NO thought. He is doing a good job of driving me away from him.


124 posted on 01/08/2016 8:23:02 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Mollypitcher1

“They used the term widely known at the time from Vattel’s writings, NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!”

Why do you refuse to acknowledge that Vattel NEVER WROTE ABOUT NBC?

Are you a liar, or just deliberately stupid?


125 posted on 01/08/2016 8:24:15 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Why don’t you look up E. Vattel and see what he called a Natural Born Citizen? Too lazy? or just trying to insist you are right when you are dead wrong and several Supreme Court Decision validate Vattel.


126 posted on 01/08/2016 8:25:38 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1
They used the term widely known at the time from Vattel's writings

Your claim was the Constitution said parents.

Have you admitted your error yet?

127 posted on 01/08/2016 8:27:32 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Mollypitcher1
Why are there two definitions of citizens? Why “ Natural born” instead of just “Citizen” if there was no difference.

You really are not as smart as you like to pretend. The reason for the difference between "a natural born citizen or a citizen..." is very simple. At the time of the adoption of the Constitution, there WERE no natural born citizens of the United States old enough to be president - every one who became a citizen of the United States when we declared our Independence was born as the citizen of another country.

128 posted on 01/08/2016 8:28:36 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Mollypitcher1
Why don't you look up E. Vattel and see what he called a Natural Born Citizen?

I'm more interested in what the Constitution says.

129 posted on 01/08/2016 8:28:40 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: parksstp

Ted Cruz is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.


130 posted on 01/08/2016 8:31:04 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: JoSixChip
...respond with innuendo that is based on conjecture.

No, I responded with actual examples from Trump's own statements and actions. If you see citing Trump's own words as "innuendo", then I think the cult designation applies much more to you.

131 posted on 01/08/2016 8:31:30 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Mollypitcher1; Toddsterpatriot
What Vattel wrote:

How it was translated in 1760:

How it was translated in 1787:

http://www.greschak.com/essays/natborn/index.htm

Please notice he did not discuss natural born citizens, and the translations made prior to the US Constitution did not make that error. Notice the images were posted by someone who is a birther...but an honest one.

132 posted on 01/08/2016 8:32:45 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: JoSixChip

Why would I worry? You’re the one demanding proof, He provided it with his Mothers BC


133 posted on 01/08/2016 8:34:40 PM PST by Dstorm (Cruz 2016)
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To: Mr Rogers

Pictures show up in the correct order in preview, but not when posted. Oh well.


134 posted on 01/08/2016 8:34:54 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Mollypitcher1

His mom is an American citizen. Case closed.


135 posted on 01/08/2016 8:35:13 PM PST by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)
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To: Mr Rogers

Oh...they show up beside the text when posted on the forum. OK.


136 posted on 01/08/2016 8:35:45 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Mollypitcher1

I believe in the constitution. Ted Cruz’ mom is an American citizen, and was one when Ted was born. He’s an American.


137 posted on 01/08/2016 8:36:08 PM PST by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)
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To: Mollypitcher1
Ted Cruz is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.

What type of citizen is he?

138 posted on 01/08/2016 8:36:40 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Mr Rogers

You also seem content to ignore that Vattel did NOT write about “natural born citizens”.
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Before the Constitution the closest reference we have to Natural Born Citizen is from the legal treatise “the Law of Nations,” written by Emerich de Vattel in 1758. In book one chapter 19,

§ 212. Of the citizens and natives.

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

VATTEL DID write the above, explaining Natural Born Citizen. If you can read with comprehension, you must admit your error.


139 posted on 01/08/2016 8:39:57 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1

If you keep it up, I’ll be forced to resurrect the Sanity Squad. And there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


140 posted on 01/08/2016 8:40:24 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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