In email, Hillary Clinton tells aide to send talking points "nonsecure"

CBS News ^ | 1/8/16 | REENA FLORES

[Vic S]

quadruple whoopi. She is busted - even a court appointed lawyer should be able to make this case now.

[for-q-clinton]

She will just say I told him to send it non-secure meaning take the classified out then send it in non-secure email.

[Billthedrill]

Remember how carefully she used to parse her statements: "I never sent any email marked Classified"? This is why.

[Blackirish]

I don’t think a corrupt DOJ will be that easy. The FBI and the other intelligence agencies are going to hold their feet to fire.

[HeartlandOfAmerica]

has insisted that no classified information was sent or received through her private email server.

Actually I believe she continually says that the classified material wasn't marked as classified. Of course not. Her people removed the markings for her. THey need to find out how long ago they started doing this and every hint of a willingness on her part to have it done on a wholesale basis.

[fuzzylogic]

I’m not sure that “talking points” would count as classified. She would have to be transmitting classified material. Assuming that talking points are for the media I don’t see anything here.

[mass55th]

From those excerpts, it looks like Jacob Sullivan needed some TPs for Hillary’s bunghole! Just saw a photo of him. Wonder how he’s enjoying being her beyotch now. What a moron.

[PLMerite]

"Clinton responds, "If they can't, turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure." "

Smoking gun, big time.

[Norseman]

>>Assuming that talking points are for the media I don’t see anything here.<<

I agree. She’s violated the law multiple times, but this doesn’t look like one of them.

It’s more likely that they normally used the secured fax to distribute her talking points to avoid them falling into others’ hands, but in this case decided to just have them take off the subject line (so they’d be less obvious) and send them unsecured.

People are jumping to a lot of conclusions here, which isn’t necessary because we already know that the FBI is gathering plenty of actual evidence of her misdeeds. This very likely wasn’t one of them, however.

[roamer_1]

plain text? Not PGP, no encrypted container attached? not even pwd protected zip? Sheesh! That's dumb. It's pretty hard to break an encrypted can. the vulnerability is in passing the key, which is largely overcome if passed during a secure eye-ball meeting... I have operated under those conditions before, and it is a wonder that such conditions wouldn't be a fairly normal thing, just for mid-level confidential communications.

At least in that condition, it could be defended as having tried.

[blueunicorn6]

Look at the two responses from Hillary. They were written by two different people.

Who is the second response from?

[Thunder90]

It depends. I think that Obama hates Hillary enough that he will allow the DOJ to go after her.

[Gunner TLW]

Gentlemen, you can NOT glean “Non-Classified” information from a Classified Document and “Remove headings” IOT send it over a unsecure net!

Any portion of a Classified document is classified until it is downgraded by competent authority.

The act of directing anyone to remove a classified heading and then forwarding any portion of that classified document over a unsecure net is also a serious violation.

[Jumper]

Everything at the US Dept of State is classified, and the minimum classification is SENSITIVE BUT UNCLASSIFIED, which precludes anything from going into the public domain (.com). Unlike the rest of government where UNCLASSIFIED is simply that, at the Department of State SBU demands it be maintained on a State Department Information System, period.

[Norseman]

You’re assuming that the document was classified in the first place. It might not have been. It might just be the way that unclassified, politically sensitive, info (like talking points) was occasionally transmitted to Hillary. Given her presumed use of the word “nonpaper” to apparently mean “electronic” and the possibility that she doesn’t even know how to run a printer, she probably preferred hard copies. (And, yes, I’ve assumed several points in that last sentence, but at least I know that I’ve done so.)

Look, I can’t stand her. But there’s a whole lot of assuming going on here, including the assumption that the State Department would even let that email exchange out if it meant what people are saying it meant.

This isn’t that difficult. Check your assumptions.

[Ann Archy]

It’s the “Just Us” dept.......she WILL skate.

[CptnObvious]

The definition of classified or secret is by the content, not it's marking. That way the intent of the law cannot be skirted as Hillary was CLEARLY trying to do with the NON-SECURED email server(s).

Shame to anyone who is shilling for Hillary in this matter.

[wildbill]

Smoking gun? How is it that I had to scroll down three pages to find this on FR?

Mentioned on Fox briefly.

I think this will be the final straw if the document is classified—and that is probable since they redacted some info before its release.

At the very least it is evidence of a conspiracy to break the laws regarding security as well as showing perjury in her Congressional testimony.

[Gunner TLW]

Norseman, any document transmitted over a classified net and, as identified by Mrs Clinton, having “headings” problematic for sending over an non-secure net would obviously lead one to believe that the document had a classification prohibited for non-secure destribution.

Migrating any document fron a secure network to a non-secure network is expressly forbidden.

I’m sure that we will all soon see how our assumptions hold up.

Thanks for the response! I do always enjoy having my assumptions challenged.

[Norseman]

Two points:

If I’m trying to send my fantasy football picks to someone on a secure fax line, “migrating” that to a non-secure line because the secure one isn’t working will land me in trouble?

And you’re assuming that the “heading” is problematic from due to its classification. What if she just routinely got a non-classified email of talking points every day, labeled “Talking Points” and told them to strip the title so it wouldn’t be so obvious what the content was to prying eyes when it was sent over a non-secure route?

Oh, and I, along with everyone else, am assuming that TP stands for talking points. But that’s the least of the assumptions flying around this one.

Just because most of us believe Hillary is a lying POS doesn’t mean that she did what most of you are alleging here. Besides, if that was the case, I think State would have buried it somehow.