Posted on 01/08/2016 6:33:36 AM PST by rktman
The seizure of a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon by armed anti-government extremists has attracted national attention and raised questions about whether the takeover is a powder keg about to blow.
But experts who monitor the anti-government movement say an even greater concern is lurking behind the confrontation that erupted Saturday at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in the high desert of eastern Oregon.
The militia movement, they say, is in the midst of a massive growth spurt at levels even greater than in the early 1990s after the Waco, Texas, standoff and the siege at Ruby Ridge, Idaho. It peaked after the Oklahoma City bombing.
"It's bigger than anything we've seen before," said Leonard Zeskind, president of the Institute for Research and Education on Human Rights. "And it's not simply a resurgence of the '90s militia movement; it's different in many ways. Now it's much broader."
(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...
So the left media no longer identifies the patriots as patriots — but calls them “militia movement”?
That’s as dumb a libspeak as “gun violence”
If it is a “tip of the iceberg” it is only because this government, especially under the Tyrant Obama, has worked overtime to classify its homeland citizens as right wingers, kooks and rebels while simultaneously stuffing this country with African and Mid East Muslims from all quarters. Couple this with its blatant refusal to maintain our borders against millions of invading illegal Hispanics from the south and it’s no wonder homeland Americans are pissed.
The retarded author doesn’t surprise me. If a libtard starts peeing in their pants about “armed extreme anti gubmint forces”, then so be it.
This is nearly an information free article. Their main source is the Southern Poverty Law Center.
So the only real information in the article is what data SPLC made up and what that tells you about the left’s agenda.
IMO, they desperately want an armed confrontation before Obama leaves office.
Maybe someone should “re-double” their efforts to understand what’s goin’ on. Talk about double talkin’ BS’rs. Notice it’s rarely “radical left wing extremists”? If ever.
Tbe scholarship cannot be doubted — Ruby Ridge, Idaho. Betcha that comes as quite a surprise.
Solution-—————”Grampers”. Change daily.
The left calls them white terrorists and is angry that the occupy and BLM crowds were criticized.
It’s the KC Star. They can’t give the paper away.
The Bundy Refugees number less than 20 people and are mostly obsessive Mormons.
What they are doing is radically different from Ruby Ridge and the Branch Davidians.
Those were groups living on their own private land who had refused to appear on warrants.
The Bundy Refugees are squatters on public land.
The Bundy Ranch standoff involved threats to Cliven Bundy's cattle, his private property (albeit they were raised on public land without recompense).
People showed up largely because they saw the Feds planning to take away an old man's livelihood, no matter how ill-gotten that livelihood was.
This time it's a small group of mostly Mormon ideologues seizing a public facility that has been in common use by thousands and thousands of citizens for over a hundred years.
What happens in the spring when park rangers want to go back to their place of employment and use their offices and their vehicles to do the job the taxpayers are paying them to do?
What happens when birdwatchers with satchels full of equipment want to walk freely around the woods without these clowns stopping them, frisking them, telling them they have to get the clowns' permission to walk around the grounds, and that they have to be momentarily detained by these clowns for the purposes of "opsec"?
If I posted the Declaration of Independence today, contemporaneously, I would labeled an extremist.... just like the Sons of Liberty at the Founding.
They're squatters, thieves, and seditionists - not terrorists.
Terrorists are the ones who threaten to burn down cities if their demands aren't met.
Idiots wrote this. The militia movement went dark after OK city. It didn’t wane. The rabble rousers and the informants were weeded out. Then 9/11 happened and federal LEO efforts went into “fighting” terrorism, they can’t find it because they weren’t looking. How do you think a few hundred battle hardened patriots showed up at the Bundy Ranch on very short notice? Organization.
Other than the smattering of several actual combat veterans among the Bundy Ranch, how did the majority of them become "battle-hardened"?
And it's silly to speak of "waning" or "growing" etc.
It's a fad that fades when times are good and comes back in season when times aren't so good.
There was no "weeding out" of informants - as you imply, law enforcement simply moved on to other priorities.
The informants weren't getting paid anymore for informing, so they left.
The number of people at the Bundy Ranch was not "hundreds" - photos from supporters don't show much more than a hundred people.
If, as you say, the citizen militia movement is so large, robust, battle-hardened, and well-organized there should have been thousands of people in Bunkerville.
And, likewise, there should be thousands in Malheur Lake today.
But there looks to be maybe 20.
It seems that both advocates of citizen militia organizations and the leftist opponents of citizen militias love to exaggerate the number of active members and the level of commitment - but the proof is in the pudding at Malheur Lake, and there is precious little pudding.
Experts? More like @$$holes!
Pardon my French, but appropriate in this context.
Why are you still posting to me? Check light this week?
When you pontificate and make lots of unsupported statements, other posters will comment.
You'll get used to it, eventually.
“Obsessive Mormons”
Do the Bundy Refugee women wear prairie dresses, upswept hairdos, and eerily resemble one another?
Anyway, go to KC Star site & read the comments. Almost all are negative and call “Splick” the hate group that it is.
“Kansas City star, that’s what I are,....you oughta see my car, I drive a big ol’ Cadillac with wire wheels, got rhinestones on the spokes...”
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