Posted on 01/05/2016 7:40:04 AM PST by Torcert
It used to be that the gun grabbers desperately attempted to keep a thin veneer of plausible deniability on their ultimate goal of Confiscation. After all, you canât very well sucker people into the government controlling their private property with Intergalactic Background Checks and registration if itâs known that those are but a pretext for confiscation later on.
But now out of frustration at the lack of âprogressâ in destroying out rights they have dropped the mask and are now calling for full on repeal of the second amendment, gun bans and outright confiscation. To be sure they still try to pretend this is not the case and hence the reason for this reference piece.
The purpose here is to document the myriad times them have called for gun confiscation so that when they turn around and LIE about it, We have the FACTS to prove they are Lying.
Such as in this case: Obama Mocks Gun Owners http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2013/04/04/obama-mocks-gun-owners
For example, Comrade Clinton recently called for the government to make people an offer they canât refuse-turn over their means of self-defense in exchange for their own money OR spend some time in the pokey.
In response to an inquiry about Australian gun confiscation, she responded that:
âIn the Australian example, as I recall, that was a buyback programâ¦â¦. I think it would be worth considering doing it on the national levelâ Hillary Clinton October 16 2015 http://www.c-span.org/video/?328774-1/hillary-clinton-town-hall-meeting-keene-new-hampshire
And as typical, she has tried to deny the obvious, but the words and articles from her Comrades on the national Socialist left make it clear that Confiscation is their ultimate goal. Their subsequent lies on the subject are condemned by their own words.
This will be a list of calls for repeal of the 2nd amendment, gun bans and Confiscation in more or less in chronological order, most will be links only to save space and restrictions.
I would ask that you try to just post links and excerpts to this thread such that is a good resource for FR, when the #nationalSocialistLeft trots out their âNo one is talking about Confiscating gunsâ LIE. Please read through the links and references and check them out for viability and accuracy. And if you think some I have missed, please list them here for everyone else's use.
Examining the list you will see the trends over the past few years. It began with the left wanting the âAssault Weaponâ scam and registration. Then it transitioned to advocacy for the repeal of the 2nd amendment and followed recently with outright calls for confiscation.
Item one has a âmoderateâ thrust with the âgenerousâ granting of the rights we free citizens have to possess a gun under their conditions (Isnât that really nice of them?)
Mar 24, 2012
Yes conservatives, we want to take away your guns...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/24/1077374/-Yes-conservatives-we-want-to-take-away-your-guns
âIf I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States, for an outright ban, picking up [every gun]â¦..Mr. and Mrs. America, turn âem all in.â
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-b45FdDN3s&feature=player_detailpage
Then of course the Sandy Hook terrorist attack took place and things changed overnight. Consider the context of that time. Obama had just stolen a second term in office and the national Socialist left was all aglow in their supposed preeminence over the forces of Freedom and Liberty. Shortly thereafter that attack took place and the national Socialist Left took this on as a sign that their moment had arrived and that this âHorrificâ attack would be THE moment to finally vanquish the peopleâs common sense civil right to armed self-defense.
December 2012
MSNBCâs Ed Schultz Talks Gun Confiscation
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/dan-gainor/2012/12/16/msnbc-s-ed-schultz-talks-gun-confiscation
Muhlbauer: Ban, seize semi-auto weapons
http://carrollspaper.com/Content/Local-News-Archive/Local-News/Article/Muhlbauer-Ban-seize-semi-auto-weapons/1/1/14934
House Dem: Turn in your guns
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/273753-house-dem-calls-on-people-to-turn-in-your-guns
Mr. Cuomo, speaking on WGDJ-AM, said: âConfiscation could be an option.â
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/21/nyregion/cuomo-says-he-will-outline-gun-measures-next-month.html?_r=1&;
In some cases the nationâs socialists went hog wild and indulged all their totalitarian fantasies:
How to Ban Guns: A step by step, long term process
The very first thing we need is national registry. We need to know where the guns are, and who has them.
Along with this, make private sales illegal.
We want to encourage as much voluntary compliance as possible.
So, we get those logbooks, and cross reference the names and addresses with the new national registry.
This exercise isnât so much to track down every gun ever sold; the main idea would be to profile and investigate people that may not have registered their guns.
Iâm concerned that other guy who bought a half dozen assault weapons, registered two hunting rifles, and belongs to the NRA/GOA. Heâs the guy who warrants a raid.
So registration is the first step. Now that the vast majority are registered, we can do what we will.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/21/1172661/-How-to-Ban-Guns-A-step-by-step-long-term-process
Then the trend drifted over to one of repealing the 2nd amendment for awhile.
January 2013
Letâs Repeal the Second Amendment
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/politics/2013/01/kurt-eichenwald-lets-repeal-second-amendment
May 10, 2013
âWe needed a bill that was going to confiscate, confiscate, confiscateâ The Star-Ledger http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/05/pro-gun_advocates_angry_over_n.html#incart_m-rpt-1
April 30, 2014
Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/common-sense-calls-for-repeal-of-second-amendment/
May 30, 2014
Itâs Time to Repeal the 2nd Amendment
http://www.sanjoseinside.com/2014/05/30/rich-robinson-its-time-to-repeal-the-2nd-amendment/
Then in the past year or so the talk verged more into the realm of outright Confiscation [or itâs innocuous sounding euphemisms: ban, Gun buyback, etc.]
Such as the case with Obama on June 10, 2014
âA couple of decades ago, Australia had a mass shooting similar to Columbine or Newtown. And Australia just said, well, thatâs it - weâre not seeing that again. And basically imposed very severe, tough gun laws.â
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/06/10/remarks-president-qa-david-karp-ceo-tumblr
Secondary source: OBAMA ENDORSES AUSTRALIAN-STYLE GUN CONFISCATION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKSvxz5LHHw
Then again recently on October 01, 2015
âWe know that other countries, in response to one mass shooting, have been able to craft laws that almost eliminate mass shootings. Friends of ours, allies of ours - Great Britain, Australia, countries like ours.â
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/10/01/statement-president-shootings-umpqua-community-college-roseburg-oregon
Secondary source: 15-0711 Obama Endorses Gun Confiscation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxW6oCqEHaU
April 30, 2014
Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/common-sense-calls-for-repeal-of-second-amendment/
May 30, 2014
Itâs Time to Repeal the 2nd Amendment
http://www.sanjoseinside.com/2014/05/30/rich-robinson-its-time-to-repeal-the-2nd-amendment/
December 2014
Time is overdue to repeal the Second Amendment
http://www.wisconsingazette.com/opinion/time-is-overdue-to-repeal-the-second-amendmentr.html
Then something seems to have snapped in the âcollectiveâ conscience of the national socialist left and they let their mask fall completely off issuing myriad calls for Confiscation [With a cute little âcarve-out for hunting weaponsâ here and there]
May 28, 2014
You say gun control doesnât work? Fine. Letâs ban guns LA Times
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-gun-control-ban-homicides-suicides-20140528-story.html
January 7, 2015
Stop the insanity: Ban guns
http://www.tallahassee.com/story/opinion/columnists/ensley/2014/11/22/stop-insanity-ban-guns/19426029/
July 2015
Socialist Bernie Sanders Wants To Ban All Self-Defense Firearms
http://bearingarms.com/socialist-bernie-sanders-wants-ban-self-defense-firearms/
October 2015
Obama Praises Australiaâs Gun Confiscation
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/380033/obama-praises-australias-gun-confiscation-charles-c-w-cooke
Thinking Beyond the Moment Talking Points Memo
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/thinking-beyond-the-moment
And here we have another case of the indulging in their most lurid of statist fantasies:
Effective Gun Control - A National Semi-Auto Ban
Act I Step 1:
The POTUS issues a EO, commanding the BATFE to âaudit dealer recordâ - ie, look for âstrawman salesâ by reviewing each of the dealers Form 4473 records.
So, now we have ALL the records scanned... and a comprehensive list of who purchased what gun where.
Act II Step 1:
Strike a deal with the Republicans. For public consumption, word it as ambiguously as possible... as was the ACA (just pass it and weâll find out what's in it) and stuff it into the next Continuing Resolution.
Step 2: Federalize (âsecondâ) the National Guard of the respective states.
Step 3: Go door-to-door with your list of gun purchasers, and get access to the guns.
No gun? Where is it? Who has it? Whereâs the paperwork? No gun, no paperwork?
Sadly, it appears the nationwide cell phone network is down, unless youâre using a government contract cell phone. Yes, surprise is key.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/5/1427845/-Effective-Gun-Control-A-National-Semi-Auto-Ban
[Mentioned earlier]
Clinton Praises Australian Gun Buyback Program http://freebeacon.com/issues/clinton-australian-style-gun-control-worth-considering-for-u-s/
A gun-free society The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-gun-free-society/2015/10/04/6da29040-69c4-11e5-9ef3-fde182507eac_story.html
November 2015
Yes, They Want to Take Your Guns Away The Daily Beast
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/02/yes-they-want-to-take-your-guns-away.html
Hillary Clinton Commits To Making 2016 a Referendum On Gun Confiscation
http://bearingarms.com/hillary-clinton-commits-making-2016-referendum-gun-confiscation/
December 2015
The Second Amendment must go: We ban lawn darts. Itâ time to ban guns Salon
http://www.salon.com/2015/12/04/the_second_amendment_must_go_we_ban_lawn_darts_its_time_to_ban_guns/
We donât need gun control. We need domestic disarmament Huffingtonpost
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/amitai-etzioni/needed-domestic-disarmame_b_8739712.html
declare these arms contraband and confiscate them Rolling Stone
[The assault weapons ban the NRA couldnât stop]
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-assault-weapons-ban-the-nra-couldnt-stop-20151209?
End the Gun Epidemic in America The New York Times [First Front Page Editorial In 95 Years]
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/opinion/end-the-gun-epidemic-in-america.html
Secondary source:http://a.msn.com/01/en-us/AAg2dhB?
Itâs Time to Ban Guns. Yes, All of Them New Republic
https://newrepublic.com/article/125498/its-time-ban-guns-yes-them
January 2016
Bernie Sanders backs Obama on gun control
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/01/03/sotu-sanders-backs-obama-on-gun-control.cnn
Bernie Sanders backs Obama on gun controlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWFHoghhIaw
Melissa Harris-Perry Confiscate Legal Guns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7bSDUIbL9U
So when anyone of the national Socialist Left tries to claim that âNo one is talking Confiscationâ show them this list.
Consider one recent example - a few years ago the socialists of Venezuela disarmed the people and recently announced that the FANB can now shoot protestors:
Venezuelan Army Can Shoot Protesters, Effective Immediately
January 29, 2015 http://panampost.com/sabrina-martin/2015/01/29/venezuelan-army-can-shoot-protesters-effective-immediately/
It’s not a ‘plan’ it was the posting of information.
The bottom line is that most of those on the national socialist LEFT want to Confiscate guns - that is a fact.
The list shows the trend in how the Left is approaching the issue and they have arrived at the point of openly advocating Confiscation.
Trying to distract talking about something they discussed years ago doesn’t change that reality.
liberals LOVE to shoot unarmed people.
Get one by themselves and they freely admit they want to commit genocide of people they hate.
Liberals are the most hate-filled, mean-spirited, envious, resentful, vicious, close-minded, violent, murdering, censoring, book-burning, ignorant, uneducated, unskilled, childish, prejudiced, racist, women-hating, man-hating, perverted, thieving, destructive, American-hating, Christian-hating, muslim-loving, communist, vulgar, dirty, smelly, regressive, restrictive, prohibitive, bed-wetting, and scared little lying idiots God has ever created.
Tell us what you REALLY feel. Don’t hold back. That said...LIBs are mentally ill...all of them.
Forgot the thumb-sucking. THAT’s how I really feel!.
Liberals are the most hate-filled, mean-spirited, envious, resentful, vicious, close-minded, violent, murdering, censoring, book-burning, ignorant, uneducated, unskilled, childish, prejudiced, racist, women-hating, man-hating, perverted, thieving, destructive, American-hating, Christian-hating, muslim-loving, communist, vulgar, dirty, smelly, regressive, restrictive, prohibitive, bed-wetting, and scared little lying thumb-sucking idiots God has ever created.
Communism Killed 94M in 20th Century, Feels Need to Kill Again
According to a disturbingly pleasant graphic from Information is Beautiful entitled simply 20th Century Death, communism was the leading ideological cause of death between 1900 and 2000. The 94 million that perished in China, the Soviet Union, North Korea, Afghanistan, and Eastern Europe easily (and tragically) trump the 28 million that died under fascist regimes during the same period.
During the century measured, more people died as a result of communism than from homicide (58 million) and genocide (30 million) put together. The combined death tolls of WWI (37 million) and WWII (66 million) exceed communism's total by only 9 million.
http://reason.com/blog/2013/03/13/communism-killed-94m-in-20th-century
Grathwohl was also an informant for the FBI.
In an interview from the 1982 documentary No Place To Hide that recently surfaced, Grathwohl discussed what the Weathermen intended to do after overthrowing the U.S. government, including what they would do with those Americans who refused to embrace communism.
I asked,"Well what is going to happen to those people we can't reeducate, that are diehard capitalists?" And the reply was that they'd have to be eliminated.
And when I pursued this further, they estimated they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these reeducation centers.
And when I say "eliminate" I mean "kill."
Twenty-five million people.
Twenty-six years later, I caught up with Larry Grathwohl, and asked him about the Weathermen, their leaders then and now, and what he thinks about the relationship between Bill Ayers and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
PJ Media: Was this merely an academic matter to them, or were they serious about killing 25 million Americans that would not bend to their political will?
Larry Grathwohl: I suppose you could consider this a purely academic discussion in that the Weathermen never had the opportunity to implement their political ends. However, I can assure you that this was not the case. There was an absolute belief that they, along with the international revolutionary movement, would cause the collapse of the United States and that they would be in charge.
http://pjmedia.com/blog/eyewitness-to-the-ayers-revolution/?singlepage=true
“Twenty-five million people”
Wasn’t it 25%?
25 Million people was the figure used in the piece.
But I’ve heard that in other forms elsewhere..
I wonder how many times he had to replace his keyboard as he kept shorting it out with ... ummmmm ... bodily fluids as he was typing his delirious fantasy.
Note he didn’t advocate collecting the bolt-action rifles.
In the right hands, those can do a lot more damage than the semi-auto “assault rifles” he shrieks about.
That's right close to what Deef Smith said about that Vince's Bridge....
No wonder leftards think they’re smarter than we are.
They know where the shift key *and* the period are on the keyboard.
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