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New Bill Would Give IRS Power Over Independent Tax Preparers
Institute for Justice ^ | Dec. 30, 2015 | Chris Dobrogosz

Posted on 01/01/2016 10:53:02 AM PST by Twotone

A bill introduced by two House Republicans earlier this month would force tax preparers to undergo continuous training and pass costly, restrictive licensing exams. According to a report from The Daily Signal, Reps. Diane Black and Pat Meehan presented the bill as a way to fight tax fraud and other criminal activity.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2manylaws; 2manytaxes; abolishirs; bill; irs; preparers; taxes; taxpreparers
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1 posted on 01/01/2016 10:53:02 AM PST by Twotone
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To: Twotone

Why would they do this?


2 posted on 01/01/2016 11:01:56 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Beats the hell out of me. Why not simplify the tax code so no one needs a tax preparer?


3 posted on 01/01/2016 11:06:28 AM PST by Twotone (Truth is hate to those who hate truth.)
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To: Twotone

The only surprise is that this has not happened sooner.


4 posted on 01/01/2016 11:06:50 AM PST by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: MtnClimber

Probably paid of by corporate tax preparers. That’s the usual beneficiary of regulation or licensure, large companies. It creates a barrier to entry that’s easier for larger companies to navigate than smaller competitors, and easier for those already in the business than new entrants. Most professional licensing schemes (laws) are just to protect the guys already in the club from competition.


5 posted on 01/01/2016 11:07:37 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: MtnClimber
Why would they do this?

Because Jackson-Hewitt and H&R Block asked them.

6 posted on 01/01/2016 11:08:09 AM PST by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: MtnClimber
Because they are heavily invested in the big name consulting companies that do tax preparation.

This eradicates the competition.

The two reps are traitors.

7 posted on 01/01/2016 11:09:06 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: MtnClimber

How they gunna apply it to these guys ?

http://birdoutsourcing.com/Tax-Return-Preparation.htm


8 posted on 01/01/2016 11:09:12 AM PST by stylin19a
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To: Twotone

Good thing it’s Republicans sponsoring this! Imagine if Dems did it. They’d make everyone undergo tax training!


9 posted on 01/01/2016 11:15:52 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Twotone

Yet another reason to repeal the 16th Amendment and close the IRS.


10 posted on 01/01/2016 11:21:34 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Traveler59

Bingo.


11 posted on 01/01/2016 11:27:14 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Two Republicans who need to be primaried!


12 posted on 01/01/2016 11:27:46 AM PST by Twotone (Truth is hate to those who hate truth.)
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To: Still Thinking
You have the CORRECT answer.....that is always how/why laws and/or restrictions are created.

Then add: states collect licensing fees.

Add: schools collect revenue with Continuing Ed classes.

Add: Attorneys waiting on the first Preparers to make a Mistake.

13 posted on 01/01/2016 11:27:51 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Twotone; MtnClimber

It might have something to do with creating chaos and confusion. (In addition to reasons mentioned in post 6 and 7).

Will Scammers Hide Behind New Law for Private Tax Collectors
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/12/20/will-scammers-hide-behind-new-law-for-private-tax-collectors/

Congress, in a law that took effect this month, instructed the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), against its objections, to use private collection agencies for “outstanding inactive tax receivables.”

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Generally, the IRS does not contact taxpayers by phone. But legitimate bill collectors and tax scammers do. Once the private collection program begins, which Congress says should be early next year, it will be even more difficult to distinguish between the real and fake bill collectors.


14 posted on 01/01/2016 11:28:06 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: MtnClimber

In the era of Trump I have learned that whenever establishment Republicans push legislation, look at who their donors are. People elect Congressmen and Senators, but Congressmen and Senators work for their donors, not those who elect them.


15 posted on 01/01/2016 11:30:09 AM PST by libh8er
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To: Twotone

Big companies lobby for regs that are high negatives to small companies.


16 posted on 01/01/2016 11:32:18 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Twotone; All
Patriots need to vote for Cruz because he wants to eliminate the IRS, not that corrupt Congress is going to let him do it.

Also, tax preparers need to know that they have the constitutional authority to stop the IRS by referencing the following. The Founding States had made the first numbered clauses in the Constitution, Sections 1-3 of Article I, evidently a good place to hide them from Congress, to clarify that all federal legislative powers are vested in the elected members of Congress, not in the executive or judicial branches, or in non-elected federal bureaucrats like those running the IRS. So Congress has a constitutional ”monopoly” on federal legislative powers whether it wants it or not imo.

But by delegating federal legislative / regulatory powers to IRS bureaucrats for example, Congress is wrongly protecting such powers from the wrath of the voters in blatant defiance of Sections 1-3 referenced above.

Also, to actually simplify their work, tax preparers also need to start pointing out the following. A previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting ustices had clarified that Congress is prohibited from appropriatiing taxes in the name of state power issues, essentially any issue that Congress cannot justify under its Section 8-limited powers.

”Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” - Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

And speaking of corrupt Congress, when patriots elect Trump, or whatever conservative they elect as president, they also need to do this. They need to elect a new, state sovereignty-respecting Congress that will work within its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers to support the new president, while prohibiting the executive and judicial branches, along with federal bureaucrats, from stealing legislative branch powers.

Also consider that such a Congress would probably be willing to fire state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices.

17 posted on 01/01/2016 11:33:08 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Twotone

“...undergo continuous training and pass costly, restrictive licensing exams.”

Who will do the training? The IRS hasn’t a clue of what all is in the tax code. Need proof? Call the IRS help line several times, asking the same question, and see how many different answers you get.


18 posted on 01/01/2016 11:37:35 AM PST by beelzepug (2 Timothy 2:23 Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments...")
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To: Traveler59

Most of the Jackson-Hewitt and H&R Block tax preparers are independents, hired for the duration of the tax season. Folks can get online training pretty cheap between seasons, and tax law is so complex that it is not unreasonable to require some effort to stay abreast. An error on your tax return can costs you hundreds or thousands due to a deduction you failed to take, a credit you are allowed but unaware of, etc. And since most returns are not audited, you won’t find out about the error.

Same with computer tax programs. They work OK, but the software I used last year prepared my state tax return incorrectly. That wasn’t entirely its fault, the tax exemption WAS programmed in to it, but it wasn’t in an obvious place. If I hadn’t caught it on my own final review, I’d have paid too much for my state taxes.


19 posted on 01/01/2016 11:39:06 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Twotone

It’s only a matter of time before they will make it illegal for individuals to do their own taxes.


20 posted on 01/01/2016 11:43:43 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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