Posted on 12/26/2015 9:13:54 AM PST by ScottWalkerForPresident2016
It was the Detroit News headline "Trump goes after Ford Motor Co." not how long Hillary went overtime in the restroom that got our attention. Donald Trump made a whistle stop outside Grand Rapids, Michigan to take aim at Ford’s plans to expand production in Mexico. Trump promised if elected he would threaten manufacturers with big tariffs on imports to discourage building manufacturing plants south of the border.
Trump to Ford, "If you build that plant in Mexico, I’m going to charge you 35 percent on every car, truck part that you send into our country," he said. "Every single one." Trump went further saying he would engage in tough negotiations with car companies to build new plants in the US and Michigan. Political analysts say Trump’s proposal would at the very minimum require congressional approval and possibly violate NAFTA.
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How could something that only affected 4.32% of the economy cause massive harm? I think even a Free Traitor™ fascist could see the logic in that.
Go Trump, go!
Liberals own all of the media, their money would have been wasted. Money doesn't buy a change of heart. If you could change minds with money, Jeb Bush would be leading in the polls right now. The fact is most Americans are economically illiterate, they think FDR was one of the greatest presidents fer-cryin-out-loud. What can you do with a media campaign aimed at those idiots.
It sure made it easy for those who had the mean$ and jumped on the Free Trade bandwagon which made it easy to wipe out the competition back in the U.S. Funny how that works.
High taxes and regulation hurt our competitiveness more than anything. Lower those and we can compete with anyone.
In fact some of these criminal political frauds actually ginned up the environmental laws in the U.S. to kill off the competitors of those who took the jobs overseas.
Yes, they are called communists. They hate God, America, and freedom. They want to be masters of the earth. God, America, and freedom must go for that to happen.
Back door deals and bribes are king. Wink wink.
Especially in a protectionist government.
You can deny these corrupt Free Trade laws have not left Middle America all but dead on the floor, you can deny the same super wealthy who pushed for Free Trade were not the same ones pushing punitive tax and environmental laws which helped murder their competition in the U.S., you can deny millions entering the U.S. illegally have not harmed Middle America.
But the facts say different. Just look at what’s left of Middle America. It’s undeniable and not even debatable.
I consider Free Traitors™ on the same level as the MSM, liberals and lawyers. Scum of the earth.
Like Mr. Jeeves, I'm also a retired business owner, and I agree with his basic points. But I guess Mr. J. doesn't yet realize that a distinctly anti-business mentality now appears to dominate around here, characterized by those who "shriek" a party line that too often is indistinguishable from classic left-wing agitprop.
Moreover, I gotta say that it seems like a total waste of time to try having a constructive dialogue with the shriekers hereabouts. They normally are unable to do much more than engage in ad hominem (or ad feminem) attacks -- which to me are a sure sign that they don't have an intellectually coherent or defensible case to make.
That being said, I hope the Aragonese Lady will continue to bless us with her occasional sarcastic gems. Keep 'em coming!
This may be, and it may even be superior in some ways to free trade.
But I’ve certainly seen as many claims that said the nation succeeded and grew economically IN SPITE OF protectionist policies, or that perhaps better put it’s hard to say that protectionism was WHY we grew.
What I think IS pretty well known is that by the time we got to the 20th Century and Smoot-Hawley, we got into global tariff wars that was acknowledged as A factor as an extended and more severe Great Depression.
At any rate, the reality is I don’t see us going down that road today. I just don’t. I mean we’re too intertwined globally.
Again, I always preface this by saying as a bible believing social conservative, which I guess most here PROBABLY are, but I’m sure I’m in a minority at this point, PART of me says bring on globalization or a “new world order/government” for this reason and this reason only. I mean, I again preface this by saying I don’t really want to see the country lost. But from a biblical perspective, I believe man will indeed put together a global government system. But it’s only going to come about because God allows it. It’s not going to last for really much of any period of time whatsoever. And whenever it does come onto the scene, I believe we know that the return of Christ is practically just around the corner. I mean, whatever they put together, it’s not going to amount to a tinker’s darn, so to speak. Granted, it’s as antiamerican as can be, it’s as foreboding as can be in the sense that it will be an evil time and it’s a reminder to be in good standing or to get in good standing with God. But it WILL happen, I believe it’s written. It WILL fail in a relatively short amount of time. And anyone who believes in a socialist, “government is God” philosophy and that Antichrist is their will be in for a rude awakening.
I’m realizing myself that I’m getting tired of sitting here dreading it, or even hating these people, or fearing it. Let it come. Let them bring it. They’re going to fail. They’re going to fail hard. For those who do believe in Christ, our only job is to be aware of the season we’re in and to inform others
You made me laugh with that last sentence. You sweet talker! ;) Thank you, friend.
I agree with you...these are strange days. I’m seeing things on this forum that make my jaw drop.
God Bless America, not the New World Order. You are kook if you really believe that gobblygook.
You are an American so start acting like it.
No, the income tax was passed here in the Civil War, then another was passed in 1894 to lower tariffs. Our industrial capacity relative to other countries was because of our lower taxes and regulations, rather than any import tariff. We did more trade amongst ourselves because our lower internal taxes and regulations contributed to a much-higher technological innovation rate then relative to other countries. It could happen again. We enjoyed this advantage throughout the low-income tax period of 1894 to Lyndon Johnson's socialism. So the preference of the income tax over tariffs was no detriment to trade, jobs, and prosperity. When liberals went to progressive taxation, excessive regulatory policy, and excessive environmentalism, then we began to decline.
So go on record here and state whether YOU THINK a system of tariffs and sales taxes would be superior to the current income tax. So which is it?
Like the liberal Bill Gates, yes. Just because he's a liberal doesn't mean we give up our conservatism to get even with him. Just don't pass his liberal BS.
Bunk. Without tariffs fledgling industries would have never survived.
The lack of imported goods relatively quickly gave very strong incentives to start building several U.S. industries in the Northeast. Textiles and machinery especially grew. Many new industries were set up and run profitably during the wars and about half of them failed after hostilities ceased and normal imports resumed. Industry in the U.S. was advancing up the skill set, innovation knowledge and organization curve.
He didn't have the advantage of the last 200 years of trial and error.
During the Revolution the Tories and loyalists wanted to maintain the status quo with England. The didn't believe in tariffs either. They wanted the colonies to provide raw materials and the British would "kindly" turn them into finished goods. These types sometimes ended up swing from lampposts. Not like that could ever happen again, no not possible....
Anytime you want to try, come on and try. I've got catfish that would find you delicious. Of course catfish will eat anything, the more disgusting the better for them.
There lies the rub, rape trade and gloBULLism are not conservative. You are the liberal and Marx would agree
But, in general, the protective system of our day is conservative, while the free trade system is destructive. It breaks up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie to the extreme point. In a word, the free trade system hastens the social revolution. It is in this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, that I vote in favor of free trade.
Gee if I have to pick between a twerp like you and George Washington I will pick George every time.
Taxes and regulation.
...you can deny the same super wealthy who pushed for Free Trade were not the same ones pushing punitive tax and environmental laws which helped murder their competition in the U.S.,...
Yes we have commies like Bill Gates in business. That doesn't mean I'm turning into a liberal to fight him.
... you can deny millions entering the U.S. illegally have not harmed Middle America.
When did this turn into a discussion of illegals?
But the facts say different. Just look at what’s left of Middle America. It’s undeniable and not even debatable.
Well, it could be a lot better if we reformed taxes and regulation, but middle America isn't that bad.
You could remove all taxes and regulations from manufacturing and the off shoring would continue unabated. Corps are off shoring to take advantage of cheap labor in the third world. Has nothing to do with regulations and taxes.
God's way is the best way, a flat ten percent income tax on everyone. Get rid of the corporate tax, any sales taxes, and get rid of the property improvement taxes.
A sales tax would cause everyone to flock to Canada and Mexico to make big purchases
You hold stupidity as a virtue.
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