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Obama's desire to close down GITMO may be about his nefarious alliances.
Vanity | 12/19/2015 | johnwk

Posted on 12/19/2015 2:01:39 PM PST by JOHN W K

Looking past the distraction of releasing terrorists from Guantanamo, there seems to be another reason for Obama wanting to close it down.

The Guantanamo Naval Station is an important asset connected to the defense of the United States and helps America keep an eye on the communist government of Cuba which aligned itself with Russia during the 1960s which then imported nuclear weapons into Cuba.

Those who do not recall the Cuban Missile Crisis of the 1960s need to read: The Cuban Missile Crisis and Threat of Nuclear War

The Guantanamo Naval Station is a strategic outpost on a landmass ninety miles from our shores. What ought to be discussed is, what does Obama intend to do with this asset if he succeeds in releasing the terrorists which are now housed there.

Considering Obama’s love affair with the terrorist government of Iran, and his various policies which have emboldened our enemies and weaken the United States, and his latest love affair with the communist government of Cuba, should he not be asked what he proposes to do with America’s naval station in Cuba if he succeeds in releasing the remaining terrorist combatants who are held there?


When will the America People realize we have an Islamic cell operating out of our nation's White House? Will they come to this conclusion when Islamic terrorist activities begin in our southern Border States or cities like New York City?

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KEYWORDS: closing; cuba; gitmo; obama

1 posted on 12/19/2015 2:01:40 PM PST by JOHN W K
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I was surprised he didn’t close it and give it away in his first administration.

I still half expect him to give it away. If he did, who would stop him?

2 posted on 12/19/2015 2:06:28 PM PST by marron
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Everything he does is because of his alliances. Valerie Iranian Jarrett being the head alliance.

3 posted on 12/19/2015 2:09:32 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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They are going to put his library there.

4 posted on 12/19/2015 2:12:03 PM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: marron

If he did that early in his first term, the people would have revolted and demanded impeachment. The frog in the slowing heating water effect. He is at the point in his last term where impeachment is highly unlikely no matter what he does. This is a very dangerous year for the republic.

5 posted on 12/19/2015 2:12:34 PM PST by Dutch Boy
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Russia Boosts Arms, Training for Leftist Latin Militaries

Moscow defense minister inks deals with Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua for joint exercises

BY: Bill Gertz
February 20, 2015

Russia agreed to provide military training for three leftist regimes in Latin America and increase military visits and exercises following a visit last week to the region by Moscow's Defense Minister Sergei Shoygu, Pentagon officials said.

Shoygu met with defense and military leaders in Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua and signed several agreements on warship visits and military training during the visit, which ran from Feb. 11 to 14. It is not clear whether any new arms deals were completed during the visit.

Defense officials said the Russian leader is seeking bases in the region for strategic bomber flights that Shoygu recently promised would include flights over the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean.

U.S. intelligence agencies closely monitored the visit but a Pentagon spokeswoman played down the Russian military encroachment.

"Just as we have bilateral and multilateral relationships around the world, so do other nations," Pentagon spokeswoman Eileen M. Lainez told the Washington Free Beacon. "All nations are free to choose their associations as they see fit."

The U.S. Southern Command, the command responsible for maintaining security in the region, also played down the visit.

"We respect the sovereign right of nations in the region to seek constructive relationships with the international community," said Col. Lisa Garcia, a command spokeswoman.

Rep. Mike Pompeo (R-Kan.), a member of the House Permanent Select Intelligence Committee, said "the Russian bear is out of hibernation from Damascus, to Donetsk, and from Pyongyang to Peru."

"Putin and his coterie of "former" communists smell weakness," Pompeo said. "Their window to expand Russian influence is now and they are acting with great vigor and with nearly zero resistance from America and the West. Russian military expansion into Latin America is simply one more manifestation of their resolve and American inaction."

Defense officials familiar with intelligence reports said Shoygu discussed future arms sales and signed military training and joint exercises accords during his four days of meetings.

All three Latin states are members of the 11-member Bolivarian Alliance for the Peoples of Our America, known as ALBA, a leftist alliance set up by Cuba and Venezuela in 2004 as an anti-U.S. grouping of states.

The Russian news site Pravda reported that the defense minister's visit appeared to set the stage for a future visit to the region by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The Russian leader is under growing isolation as the result of diplomatic and financial pressure from U.S. and European states that U.S. officials have said are beginning to cause serious economic problems for Russia.

The Shoygu visit also comes amid heightened tensions between Russia and the West over Moscow's military annexation of Ukraine's Crimea and continuing Russian military destabilization, despite a recent ceasefire accord, in eastern Ukraine.

The Obama administration has remained largely silent on Russian military encroachment in the western hemisphere. Russian Tu-95 Bear H bomber flights have increased sharply near U.S. coasts in recent months, with one recent air defense zone incursion simulating a practice nuclear cruise missile strike on the United States from northeastern Canada.

British jets on Thursday intercepted Russian bombers flying along the coast near Cornwall, in southwest England.

In Nicaragua, Shoygu signed an agreement aimed at simplifying procedures for Russian warships to make port calls. A second accord was reached that will increase military training in Russia for Nicaraguan military personnel.

Nicaragua's leftist Sandinista President Daniel Ortega announced last year that he plans to build up the armed forces with Moscow's assistance.

Russia also agreed previously to supply naval gunboats to Nicaragua beginning in 2016.

Venezuela also is a major recipient of Russian weapons, including an estimated $12 billion in arms, including Su-30 jets, Mi-17, Mi-26 and Mi-35 helicopters, T-72 tanks, Smerch multiple launch rocket launchers, S-300 anti-aircraft missiles, and artillery.

Venezuela also agreed during the Shoygu visit to increase visits by Russian warships, and Caracas will hold joint military exercises with the Russians. Joint Russian-Venezuelan air defense training also was discussed, and Russian warship visits will take place in the future.

"We will most certainly take part in your air defense and artillery drills," Shoygu was quoted by state-run Sputnik news agency as saying in Caracas.

Pravda reported Russian air force aircraft may make use of Venezuelan bases in the future.

In November, Shoygu announced that Russian strategic nuclear bombers would conduct long-range training flights over the Gulf of Mexico. "In the current situation we have to maintain military presence in the western Atlantic and eastern Pacific, as well as the Caribbean and the Gulf of Mexico."

Marine Corps. Lt. Gen. Vincent Stewart, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, confirmed the likelihood of future Russian bomber flights during testimony earlier this month before the House Armed Services Committee.

"Moscow has made significant progress in modernizing its nuclear and conventional forces, improving its training and joint operational proficiency, modernizing its military doctrine to integrate new methods of warfare and developing long range precision strike capabilities," Stewart said.

Stewart said Russian military forces, including Tu-95 bombers, conducted "record numbers" of out of area air and naval deployments.

"We expect this to continue this year to include greater activity in the Caribbean and Mediterranean Seas," he said.

In an article published Tuesday, Pravda quoted Putin as saying Russia would not permit the United States to achieve military superiority, and Moscow will continue to bolster its nuclear forces, space weapons, navy, and long-range aviation.

The newspaper also said Moscow lacks a system of bases to achieve its objectives.

In Cuba, Shoygu met Cuban dictator Raul Castro and noted that military relations continued to "develop constructively." The Russian leader also thanks the Cuban communist regime for hosting port visits by Russian naval vessels, including the intelligence-gathering ship Victor Leonov, which made a port call in Havana in January, coinciding with the Obama administration's diplomatic initiative to seek normalized relations with the regime.

Cuba also agreed to send military personnel to Russia for training.

U.S. defense officials said the Leonov was anchored some 25 miles off the coast of Jacksonville, Florida, last week, where it is suspected of conducting surveillance of U.S. nuclear missile submarines based at nearby Kings Bay, Georgia.

"This long-term strategy imposes obligations on Russia to supply its allies in Latin America with advanced weapons, including air defense systems, aircraft, and warships," Pravda stated.

Former United Nations Ambassador John Bolton said the Russians appear to be filling a power vacuum in the region by the lack of focus from the Obama administration.

"Russia's perception of American weakness under Obama has fueled their new adventurism in this hemisphere," Bolton said. "Since I see no chance of Obama waking up to the potential threat, I am very worried about the situation a new president will face in January 2017."

Dan Goure, a Russia expert with the Lexington Institute, said Russia's current moves into Latin America "are like a page Xeroxed from the Soviet political-military playbook."

"Now, like then, the Kremlin is attempting to counter what it perceives as western encirclement by operating in America's backyard," Goure said.

"The U.S. deploys missile defenses in Eastern Europe and sends warships into the Black Sea so the Russian military is attempting a riposte by orchestrating naval visits to Venezuela and seeking to reopen its intelligence facility in Cuba."

Goure said Moscow is seeking to encourage anti-American sentiment in the region "much the same way as it perceives the U.S. has done to Russia in the so-called color revolutions."


How Russia arms America's southern neighbors

Ioan Grillo
May 9, 2014

RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil -- Russia's push into Ukraine has put many on edge. But less known is that Russia is also strengthening its military links south of the Rio Grande and re-establishing itself as a power in the region.

Vladimir Putin has been strengthening military links here, and Russia is now the largest arms dealer to governments in Latin America, surpassing the United States.

Russia has even floated the possibility of building new military bases in Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua, and putting its warships permanently in the Caribbean.

In the midst of the Ukraine crisis, Russia's top diplomat Sergei Lavrov recently visited Cuba, Peru, Chile, and Nicaragua, where he announced that Russia would also pour money into the new Central American canal project. ..."

6 posted on 12/19/2015 2:17:48 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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I think he is planning to turn it over to Iran as part of of his nuke deal as a testing ground for their ballistic missiles.I would not mind it so much if he left the terrorists there as practice dummies.

7 posted on 12/19/2015 2:17:55 PM PST by chuckee
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Did you hear him trying to assign a dollar figure to how much Club Gitmo costs

8 posted on 12/19/2015 2:42:54 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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...should he not be asked what he proposes to do with America's naval station in Cuba if he succeeds in releasing the remaining terrorist combatants who are held there?

Don't ask. You/we won't like the honest answer (he wants to give it back, it's a colonial left-over), and the honest answer is unlikely to be given, anyway.

9 posted on 12/19/2015 4:23:15 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Dutch Boy

The closing of Gitmo is only the necessary prerequisite to Obama’s turning over the entire 45 square miles of the Guantanamo Naval Base and Air Station to Cuba as a gesture of friendship and goodwill. Make no mistake about it, this is his plan. After that Cuba in dire need of cash will lease it to Russia, China or Iran who could easily do so with the $150 billion Obama has given them resulting in a hostile nuclear force based just 90 miles from our shores. This one man will be the destruction of America, aided and abetted by a party of like minded traitors and useful idiots. These are tough questions Republicans in Congress need to ask in terms of what he will do once Gitmo is closed; but like everything else they will once again let him have his way as they go to their next dinner party and drinking binge.

10 posted on 12/19/2015 5:09:16 PM PST by Bushmaster7
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When judging Obama, always ask the question whose side he is on.

11 posted on 12/19/2015 5:56:17 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: marron

They can’t do anything cause obammy is a negro.

12 posted on 12/20/2015 3:37:31 AM PST by Joe Boucher (the only good mooselimb is a dead mooselimb)
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Obama promised to work things out with the Russians after the 2008 election. It appears Cuba might be that pivot. USA resumes diplomatic relations. Then Russia forgives Cuban debt for military favors and so forth.

Red carpet out for Big Bad Bear in the Gulf of Mexico. No doubt they have made further arrangements with the one.

13 posted on 12/23/2015 5:24:40 AM PST by Broker (Obama=Satan's Fart)
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