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Su-24 flight recorder confirms Russian aircraft did not violate Turkish airspace
Pravda ^
| December 18, 2015
Posted on 12/19/2015 11:29:54 AM PST by don-o
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To: dragnet2
LOLOL. You don’t follow Russian media, and haven’t for decades.
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posted on
12/19/2015 12:30:11 PM PST
by
1rudeboy
To: 1rudeboy
It came from Bollyn.com. Search for:
“Turkey’s Planned Provocation of Russia
Updated December 4, 2015”
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posted on
12/19/2015 12:30:57 PM PST
by
Vic S
To: Leaning Right
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posted on
12/19/2015 12:34:11 PM PST
by
null and void
(I've been to Switzerland. I liked it, the flag's a big plus!)
To: Vic S
Anti-Semetic kook. Figures.
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posted on
12/19/2015 12:34:44 PM PST
by
1rudeboy
To: Chode
That's good, damn good. Better than straining your ears trying to hear the “lock on.” (circa ‘60s APS54)
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posted on
12/19/2015 12:36:47 PM PST
by
BatGuano
(You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
To: don-o
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posted on
12/19/2015 12:39:19 PM PST
by
McGruff
(The only poll I believe in in The North Pole)
To: don-o
that is bad salesmanship to admit your instruments don’t work
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posted on
12/19/2015 12:42:11 PM PST
by
Thibodeaux
(leading from behind is following)
To: don-o
that is bad salesmanship to admit your instruments don’t work
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posted on
12/19/2015 12:42:52 PM PST
by
Thibodeaux
(leading from behind is following)
To: BatGuano
![](http://www.collectoons.com/imgtoon/701/702/20100101_121507chode.gif)
yup, American can-do spirit at work, necessity is the mother and all that
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posted on
12/19/2015 12:45:01 PM PST
by
Chode
(Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
oops--"Semitic"
But that may not have been accurate, either. I should have used anti-Jew 9/11 Truther barking moonbat kook.
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posted on
12/19/2015 12:51:47 PM PST
by
1rudeboy
To: don-o
“Yes I know it’s Pravda. But we also post from NY Times and Wash Post.
Second, video at source charges that US must give the “GO” before Turkey is allowed to fire. Sounds plausible.”
Roughly as plausible as this other bit of Russian news:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_INFEKTION
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posted on
12/19/2015 12:58:12 PM PST
by
Zhang Fei
(Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
To: 1rudeboy
That image and many other purporting to show the flight paths of the various aircraft are readily available from multiple sources. Try searching for images on Google with the search term "su-24 flight path".
Also, Wikipedia has images provided both by the Turkish government and the Russian government. Here is the image from Wikipedia
The image posted above was apparently provided initially by the Russian Ministry of Defense. You can watch the press conference where it was presented here
If you speak Russian you can follow the narration of what the Russian government contends occurs.
To: don-o
The 24s were tracked by US EWAC planes over the Med and over Turkey and vectored to the kill - there is no other way.
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posted on
12/19/2015 1:06:26 PM PST
by
PIF
(They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
To: Vic S
“Even if it did cross over Turkish airspace, it was only for about 30 seconds.”
At a high-enough rate of speed I’m sure Cuban MiGs could cross part of Florida in 30 seconds.
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posted on
12/19/2015 1:10:12 PM PST
by
PLMerite
(The Revolution...will not be kind.)
To: Leaning Right
Hatay Province was essentially stolen from Syria by Turkey in the late 1930's. I had also read of that quite a while ago. Lots of Turkmen in the region, and Turkey more or less claimed the region because of Turkmen active there. Sort of like what Russia did in Ukraine with Crimea, lots of Russian loyalists so they went in and took it. Lots of contested regions in the world waiting for a war to reclaim them. But yes, Hatay Province is disputed territory by Syria and Turkey. Hope they kill each other without dragging us into a wider war.
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posted on
12/19/2015 1:14:30 PM PST
by
roadcat
To: roadcat
One reason I mentioned Hatay Province is that it is still shown as Syrian territory on most Syrian maps. So I'm wondering, if that Russian pilot truly overflew Hatay, could he have been following a Syrian map?
It's quite unlikely that such a mistake would be made by a modern air force, but still...
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posted on
12/19/2015 1:20:03 PM PST
by
Leaning Right
(Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
To: freeandfreezing
Wikipedia has images provided both by the Turkish government and the Russian government.Thanks for that, looks like WWIII is on Obama and Erdogan.
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posted on
12/19/2015 1:24:21 PM PST
by
Navy Patriot
(America, a Rule of Mob nation)
To: 1rudeboy
Even if he is a 9/11 ‘truther’, he still has a lot of information on the russian su24 shootdown. He lives in France, because of his 9/11 stuff he had to leave the US. Being out of the US gives him access to other information.
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posted on
12/19/2015 1:28:31 PM PST
by
Vic S
To: Leaning Right
It's quite unlikely that such a mistake would be made by a modern air force, but still... I would think a modern air force would take note of a disputed region on a map, like a skull and crossbones reminder at the location. Same as when Japanese and Russian vessels approach contested areas, or for other nations disputing territory. Can it be as simple as a map mistake? Maybe. The stuff of fictional movie mayhem that can drag a world into war.
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posted on
12/19/2015 1:30:06 PM PST
by
roadcat
To: don-o
It’s Pravda but at this time I trust them more than any US news sources.
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posted on
12/19/2015 1:51:05 PM PST
by
Domandred
(Tea Party or Third Party. Done with the capitulating eGOP.)
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