Posted on 12/17/2015 4:26:22 PM PST by VinL
Are you a conservative? Are you rocking so much conservative street cred that you chose to stay home rather than vote for Republican nominees Mitt Romney in 2012 or John McCain in 2008 because you consider them undercover liberals, a couple of donkeys outfitted with fake trunks? Do you look at the big government left and the big government right and have trouble telling them apart? Do you currently support Donald Trump?
If you answered "yes" to the above questions, this intervention is for you.
I don't want to make you angry. I don't want you to make you scream at me on Twitter. I don't want to make you call Rush Limbaugh and tattle on me. I just want to show you how your support for Trump is affecting the people who care about you and what the consequences will be.
According to the Mayo Clinic, you can't argue with facts or with my "emotional response to the problem," so I'm going to try to do this using Mayo Clinic intervention-approved "I" statements.
I was upset and hurt when you supported Donald Trump because ...
No real conservative has emerged from a Republican primary since Ronald Reagan. George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole, George W. Bush, John McCain, Mitt Romney — let's face it, the establishment has dominated the primary for a long time. No surprise. That's whom it was invented to cater to.
But now — thanks to President Obama's incompetence — the pendulum is swinging hard to the right. According to the Realclearpolitics average, only 43 percent of Americans approve of the job the president is doing. This is finally the time!
Right now, you, the conservative base of the Republican party, have the best candidate they've ever had. Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas) is smart, he's a great debater, he isn't afraid to mention Jesus in his ads and he never backs down on his positions. He's Voldemort-level character in the minds of most Democrats (Voldemort is the bad guy from that book you probably told your grandkids not to read. They read it anyway).
Cruz outshined every other candidate in last night's debate. He was strong on foreign policy without promising to trample the Constitution. You love the Constitution! Remember?
Cruz schooled Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) on illegal immigration:
There was "a time for choosing," as Reagan put it. Where there was a battle over amnesty and some chose, like Rubio, to stand with Obama and [Democratic New York Sen.] Chuck Schumer and support a massive amnesty plan. Others chose to stand with [Republican Alabama Sen.] Jeff Sessions and [Iowa Rep.] Steve King and the American people and secure the border.
He outlined conservative priorities:
Cutting taxes, cutting regulation, unleashing small businesses and rebuilding the military to defeat radical Islamic terrorism — our strategy is simple. We win, they lose. We've done it before and we can do it again.
Cruz is the first bona-fide conservative candidate I've seen in my lifetime who stands a chance of making it all the way to the White House. But, instead of seizing the opportunity to elect a true conservative, you have chosen to cast your primary vote for Trump.
I was upset and hurt when you supported Trump because ...
Trump wants to grow the size of government, spend massive amounts of taxpayer money and trample the Constitution.
He uses Democratic Party talking points to attack true conservatives. Last week, he called Cruz a "maniac." Last night, he walked it back, but only because it gave his conservative supporters a glimpse of who he really is.
Cruz believes what you believe. Trump pretends to believe some nasty caricature of what polling data told him you believe.
I was upset and hurt when you supported Trump because ...
The big-spending establishment Republicans failed us. The politically correct, identity-politics-obsessed bigger-spending liberals failed us. In 2016, America will finally be ready for a conservative voice, but that voice won't be there. Instead, we'll hear the voices of Trump and probably Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton arguing over whose version of single-payer universal healthcare is better. There will be no conservative voice and, ironically, it will be you who silenced it.
Thanks. I know Cruz is good on it, too. I’ll try to post it later if I have time. Or someone else can.
Do we care about anyone else enough to look them up? Carson?
I just don’t understand you folks. You are capable of reading his tax plan just like anyone else, I assume. Yet, you’re troubled by him selling it with Dem talking points to increase cross party appeal. Why? Why do you need someone to blow verbal smoke up your behind? You can read the plan for yourself and know full well that it’s not a liberal plan, but you condemn it because someone didn’t use words you approve of to describe it.
That makes no sense to me. It’s like you guys are in some kind of box that you can’t think your way out of.
Even if Trump is a little flawed this country is so far twisted up with leftisms/RINO destructions if he becomes president its almost impossible not to improve it from what its become under the Kenyan.
How about intervention for republiCrat voters? http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/12/17/gop_sells_america_down_the_river
Right.
Let me ask you a question (I like a lot of what you post): Suppose post war "conservatism"is dead. Killed by the Bushes, Karl Rove, the neocons, the "Christians", etc.
Are you prepared to go into coalition with patriotic Democrats who want to Make America Great Again, but who also want a bigger state with higher taxes, or do you prefer to watch it burn?
That's what the Cruz-Trump FR disagreement is all about. I agree it's being poorly carried on by many, but it really IS about fundamentals.
The Trump premise is that there are enough Americans left to save the country. Your stated premise is that, if there is not a conservative majority, the country isn't worth saving, so why not vote for Cruz?
I heard his plan awhile back. I’ll look at it again in the next few days. I was going by what I heard from, I think, the Red Eye Radio guys. They are not liberals.
What about tariffs? That was a legit criticism in your eyes or not?
Thank you for that Duchess47, the thing which stood out to me is that he understands that it’s not a right given to us by the government, but a God-given right which the Constitution, and oath-taking politicians, vow to protect. That makes me feel a lot better about Trump. Thanks for doing the research, I’m not too good at sifting the info right now, what with all the spin to dig through.
There is no defense by Trump's supporters.
All they can point to is "Trump says, Trump says"
Cruz "does".
If it wasn’t for Trump, Cruz would be sitting at the kid’s table...
Outstandingly colorful metaphor!
There are definite legitimate disagreements there for sure. However, I have to say that I think we can all agree that what we’ve been doing for decades doesn’t work and we should try something new. That, coupled with how offensive it is that every other country gets to protect their industries while we have to have ZERO protections for ourselves and lose all our jobs and manufacturing, means to me that we really should try something new.
Trump is the only one even talking about changing the status quo on trade, which has clearly given all of us the short end of the stick.
Where are any of YOUR guys tonight?
Here is what Trump is saying
- December 17, 2015 -
�‹DONALD J. TRUMP STATEMENT ON BUDGET DEAL
(New York, NY) December 17, 2015 – “If anyone needed more evidence of why the American people are suffering at the hands of their own government, look no further than the budget deal announced by Speaker Ryan. In order to avoid a government shutdown, a cowardly threat from an incompetent President, the elected Republicans in Congress threw in the towel and showed absolutely no budget discipline.
The American people will have to absorb higher deficits, greater debt, less economic liberty and more corporate welfare. Congress cannot seem to help itself in bending to every whim of special interests. How can they face their constituents when they continue to burden our children and grandchildren with debts they will never be able to repay? Our government is failing us, so we must do something about it. Who knows how bad things will be when the next administration comes in and has to pick up the pieces?
The only special interest not being served by our government is the American people. It is time we imposed budget discipline by holding the line on spending, getting rid of waste, fraud and abuse, and by taking on our debt. To do these things, we need a President who can lead the fight to hold Congress and the rest of government accountable. Together, we can Make America Great Again.” – Donald J. Trump
Dont think so--- since Cruz was elected to the senate he has been an outspoken voice of conservatism while the LSM/RAT/RINO axis of evils have excoriated him unfairly. Trump came along and picked up the baton from Ted-- although he will never admit it. I say this as a Trump supporter.
Where are any of YOUR guys tonight?
Here is what Trump is saying
- December 17, 2015 -
DONALD J. TRUMP STATEMENT ON BUDGET DEAL
(New York, NY) December 17, 2015 – “If anyone needed more evidence of why the American people are suffering at the hands of their own government, look no further than the budget deal announced by Speaker Ryan. In order to avoid a government shutdown, a cowardly threat from an incompetent President, the elected Republicans in Congress threw in the towel and showed absolutely no budget discipline.
The American people will have to absorb higher deficits, greater debt, less economic liberty and more corporate welfare. Congress cannot seem to help itself in bending to every whim of special interests. How can they face their constituents when they continue to burden our children and grandchildren with debts they will never be able to repay? Our government is failing us, so we must do something about it. Who knows how bad things will be when the next administration comes in and has to pick up the pieces?
The only special interest not being served by our government is the American people. It is time we imposed budget discipline by holding the line on spending, getting rid of waste, fraud and abuse, and by taking on our debt. To do these things, we need a President who can lead the fight to hold Congress and the rest of government accountable. Together, we can Make America Great Again.†â€“ Donald J. Trump
I’ll see what I can find.
The Hussein administration has cured me of delusions of thinking it would be better to watch it burn. I could never have predicted how bad things would get, but I sure found out. Your question-honestly, I would have to consider that more. I am a Christian, of the fundamentalist variety, pre-trib Rapture, all that, so the fiscal side of things doesn’t resonate with me as much as the social side, but they are now irrevocably entwined, so I need to think about that-but I can say that I don’t want to see the country burn yet, though God knows we have it coming now.
Baloney. My family and friends support Trump. One supports Huck. Go Trump.
In other words, he's a big fat lib. Figgers...
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