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New Iowa Poll Shows Trump with 31-26% Lead over Cruz
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Posted on 12/17/2015 3:27:31 PM PST by BigEdLB
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To: Georgia Girl 2; Carry_Okie
This is more concise than my reply #140. :)
To: Carry_Okie
That's because the media are buying it for him (Trump) with free air time at the expense of the proven conservatives as opposed to this charlatan.Although the msm has influence, I think you're overestimating it in this unique situation with Trump.
Trump is a master of generating news that benefits his campaign. Cruz and everyone else in the GOP doesn't.
To illustrate this, consider the reverse of the situation, namely, the the media ignores Trump by talking negatively about Cruz everywhere and at all times.
Do you really think Cruz has The Right Stuff to benefit from this in the same way Trump has done so far?
Be honest with yourself when answering this question.
To: Georgia Girl 2
My post 140 was intended for Carry_Okie’s #137, not your #138. Sorry for the confusion. :)
To: Vision Thing
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posted on
12/18/2015 9:40:10 AM PST
by
Georgia Girl 2
(The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
To: BigEdLB
How can this be? Fox News reported this morning that Cruz and Rubio were “surging”.
145
posted on
12/18/2015 9:44:03 AM PST
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: Vision Thing
Trump is a master of generating news that benefits his campaign. Cruz and everyone else in the GOP doesn't. Methinks this a tautological contention.
Do you really think Cruz has The Right Stuff to benefit from this in the same way Trump has done so far?
I never implied that he did. I think Cruz more tactical than strategic in his thinking. In doing so he often forgets the political feedbacks that can undo his intentions, of which both the TPA and Corker Bill votes are exemplars. The other major character flaw is that when he does change his position about something he should express his repentance and say so. It would both show character and curtail the speculations as to his real intentions.
146
posted on
12/18/2015 10:09:38 AM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
To: napscoordinator
I did not say they will be president.
The nominee will be either Trump or Cruz though.
147
posted on
12/18/2015 12:44:42 PM PST
by
GilGil
To: Will88
Ah,, those Trump leads in Iowa don't mean anything. His supporters are a bunch naive newcomers to the Iowa system and few of them will even bother to show up at the caucuses. They don't understand how it works. Trump doesn't stand a chance in Iowa.I suppose it depends on how much the Trumpsters know about the caucus process. Should the campaign prepare them, or not? Those who know it takes the whole evening, are they willing?
Maybe it's better they don't know. Then, once they show up, how willing are they to let the neighbors see them walk out because they can't bear to miss Big Bang Theory?
148
posted on
12/18/2015 1:16:40 PM PST
by
newgeezer
(It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson, 1824)
To: BigEdLB
..my guess right now: Cruz wins Iowa, DT wins New Hampshire and NV and Cruz takes S. Carolina—someone will break out on Super Tuesday...
149
posted on
12/18/2015 2:01:19 PM PST
by
WalterSkinner
( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
To: WalterSkinner
strike that—looking at wrong schedule. The breakout could be Feb 23
150
posted on
12/18/2015 2:17:44 PM PST
by
WalterSkinner
( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
To: WalterSkinner
In the last two SC polls, Trump is +2- over Cruz. If the other votes turn out as you suggest, how will Cruz overtake Trump in SC?
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posted on
12/18/2015 3:25:19 PM PST
by
BigEdLB
(Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
To: BigEdLB
..just a guess, like I said. Polls change almost hourly. Will it be the influence of Lindsey Graham or Bob Jones in SC? If DT runs the table leading into Super Tuesday, it's pretty clear he's going to be difficult to beat. If he and Cruz are fairly even, Cruz could get on a roll and take it.
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posted on
12/18/2015 3:56:26 PM PST
by
WalterSkinner
( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
To: WalterSkinner
In the last two SC polls, Trump is +20 over Cruz. If the other votes turn out as you suggest, how will Cruz overtake Trump in SC?
Sorry about the typo. My post didn't make sense
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posted on
12/18/2015 5:24:29 PM PST
by
BigEdLB
(Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
To: BigEdLB
..you may have it right. SC in the past has been extremely conservative, but this cycle may be very different. Alot of people are angry enough to vote for someone who isn’t ideologically conservative—interesting times for the political junkie...
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posted on
12/18/2015 5:50:14 PM PST
by
WalterSkinner
( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
To: Carry_Okie
So you’re willing to admit that if the media would switch their negative all-encompassing attention from Trump to anyone else, including Cruz, this new target would be unable to get the same poll results from it as Trump has done?
To: Vision Thing
So youâre willing to admit that if the media would switch their negative all-encompassing attention from Trump to anyone else, including Cruz, this new target would be unable to get the same poll results from it as Trump has done? Wrong modality.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. - Mahatma Gandhi
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posted on
12/18/2015 8:42:08 PM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
To: Carry_Okie
Trump — and no one else during this election — is proving your Gandhi quote correct.
To: Vision Thing
BS They never ignored Trump.
He's their boy.
158
posted on
12/18/2015 9:22:51 PM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
To: Carry_Okie
I’m ignoring the ignore part and jumping straight to the laugh-fight-win part. That’s Trump’s fulfilment of your gandhi quote.
To: Vision Thing
I'm ignoring the ignore part and jumping straight to the laugh-fight-win part. That's Trump's fulfilment of your gandhi quote. Therefore it's not a fulfillment. One must excerpt, twist, and fantasize to believe that it is, which certainly fits a Trump lemming. One must ignore a lot to believe that Trump will do what he says he will do.
Trump on Syrian Refugees: 'Hate the Concept' of Letting Migrants In, But 'You Have To' Trump on illegal aliens: Going to have to go out and they will come back but they are going to have to go out and hopefully they get back.
I play to people's fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That's why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. Donald Trump, The Art of the Deal, 1987
I don't see how one can believe him on anything.
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posted on
12/19/2015 8:16:52 AM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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