Posted on 12/17/2015 12:13:30 PM PST by wagglebee
OAKLAND, California, December 17, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) – 13-year-old Jahi McMath went into cardiac arrest after a routine tonsillectomy in 2013. Jahi was in oxygen-deprived cardiac arrest for two hours, causing brain damage. Though Jahi lived, her doctors said she was "brain-dead," and UCSF Benioff Children's Hospital Oakland and Alameda County officials issued a death certificate.
Since Jahi has been declared "dead," insurance no longer covers her health care.
Jahi's mother, Nailah Winkfield, sued Jahi's doctor, Dr. Frederick Rosen, for failing to tell her that Jahi's surgery would be "complex and risky" due to Jahi's susceptibility to heavy bleeding and for failing to share that risk with nurses taking care of her recovery after surgery.
Jahi began coughing up blood the morning after the surgery; the nurses didn't know she had a risk of serious hemorrhage. The nurses told Nailah Winkfield that Jahi's bleeding was "normal." One nurse even used a suction device to clear the bleeding. Eventually, Jahi's heart stopped, causing brain damage.
Now, Jahi's biological father, Milton McMath, has sued as well.
Jahi caught the attention of the media when her mother refused to take her off life support. The Winkfields removed Jahi from Oakland to New Jersey, where she continues to live and her vitals are strong.
The Winkfields note that Jahi's heart is beating on its own, and her organs are not failing, as would be the case if she were brain-dead. They have released several videos showing Jahi moving and reacting to stimuli.
In October, a judge ruled that Jahi's family could present evidence to determine if she is alive or dead. If dead, the suit would be for wrongful death, with a maximum of $250,000 for damages.
If Jahi is declared legally alive, the lawsuit could be for many millions of dollars.
I remember those threads and those posters.
They acted all “rational” but would not listen to any reason or argument.
They just screamed that her brain is liquefying and skin turning black and hard etc...
It’s almost two years now and their assertions and predictions have not come true.
See. Here’s the problem.
Every time Jahi’s mother puts out a progress report on her daughter, she’s slammed with the most vile death threats and comments that a human being can take.
I’m part of a prayer group for Jahi. We pray for her daily. Outsiders and Negative Nancies are dumped immediately.
When things are ‘clear’ the mother will post a video. That video is pulled in less than an hour and is protected from copying or sharing.
We ALL support the mother’s efforts and absolutely understand why she can’t keep them up.
NOBODY is requesting money. This is all goodwill and love.
And skeptics like you aren’t invited.
Here’s the weird thing.
A mother who’s fighting for the life of her child doesn’t need people like you in her life. It’s hard enough as it is.
I went through this with my own son. I couldn’t handle the negative. It hurt too much.
Why do you want to hurt people?
That’s interesting.
Doctor reports are not to be disclosed by the **doctor** and his or her staff. A patient or parent of a dependent is completely free to open them to the public.
Excuse me are you some kind of jerk. You have no right or reason to call me a skeptic for asking for sources. You are very judgmental and rude. We were told our child would not live past 2. He is almost 24 and we would do anything to maintain him. Personally I would not want a rude, judgmental person as you appear to be in his life or praying for him. I question if you have any basis for anything you say
Here is one especially egregious one, overt lies and condescension.
From almost two years ago.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3107616/posts?page=126#126
And your medical degree is from where? Dishonest? Not hardly. I will refrain from calling you equally offensive names. Rigor Mortis? Only lasts 8 - 24 hours. Decomposing> Her brain is starting to liquefy. She is in fact decomposing. Just not the visible way that you would like to believe. If I am deliberately lying, shall I assume that you have the medical expertise to comment? I am most interested in your educated opinion. What supports what you say? I am supported by science, professional ethics, and morality. Your ignorance on the subject is astounding. I will wait to hear your reasoned response. Short of that, I will simply say you are more destructive to the conservative cause by promulgating opinion instead of dealing with fact. Please be advised that until you provide a reasonable answer, I will no longer discuss this issue with you.
Is she still decomposing, Doctor?
oh it happens alright
You were spewing forth lies two years ago.
You have been proven wrong with time.
Yet you still persevere.
What strange demon drives you?
On what basis do you call me a ‘jerk’?
*I* was declared PVS and taken from the hospital by my own mother against drs orders.
BTW, my mom worked with disabled children in Wyoming. She discovered that a doctor was intentionally advising parents to do things that would kill the children.
MY MOTHER went to court to pull this doctor’s license.
HE ADMITTED that he was trying to kill these kids off as a ‘mercy’ to these families. This was in 1979.
So don’t tell me that the medical community is on your side or that of your children. There are many who feel that your babies would be better off dead.
*I* was one of those kids. Later, I was a caretaker and I fought for those people.
I am not your ‘jerk’.
What are you spewing about weirdo? My initial comment was about an inaccuracy in the article. If the author omits details I question the validity of said article. I don’t trust docs and hospitals at all and have chosen to treat, so far successfully, a major health crisis without them. This family chose otherwise. It’s tragic. I sincerely hope there was no foul play, but it there was the courts should figure it out. Personal responsibility and all.
Oh yes you are a hate filled, bitter person who took my request for information as some affront- that qualifies as jerk to me. My child has never spoken or even sat alone, he has no control due to severe CP, but unlike you he is happy 99.9% of the times and a joy to all who meet him. I made no claim about the medical community as you falsely claim. I ask for source info only and you have no idea why I did. I support all life as quality of life is personal and can’t be determined by others. Obviously you judge everyone by what you think was done to you. How sad you seem!
You have a major problem if you can’t see the testimony of a declared PVS person as a plus.
You see it as a bad person (how?) who’s attacking you.
How am I, a declared PVS person, a bad person?
How am I, a person who cared for brain damaged people, a bad person?
What did I say that offended you?
What did I say?
Where am I wrong?
I *defended* people with brain damage to the point where I lost my freaking career.
WHAT did I say that was offensive to YOU?
You called me a skeptic and wrote “A mother who’s fighting for the life of her child doesn’t need people “like you” in her life. It’s hard enough as it is.
I went through this with my own son. I couldn’t handle the negative. It hurt too much.
Why do you want to hurt people?”
You don’t see those comments as cruel and judgmental? You are the one with a problem. I have no idea whether you are “bad” or not but you are bitter, angry and judgmental! Maybe you need to look at yourself! You turned a question for information into an indictment of me. You are not the only human to face challenges and we fight everyday for our son, but we have been blessed with doctors who care and a child that I thank God to know and am so proud of. Yes I wish he had the health of others but he has never been a burden/negative in his life. He is a gift from God.
Take your nasty comments and judgments and sends the bitterness to someone else. I pity you.
It’s been almost two years since you posted this:
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We do have brain analyzing machines. These are called reflexes. They do not depend on whether one is awake, sleeping, ill or well. When the brain is functioning “alive†these reflexes are intact. Loss of the reflex reveals no brain function.
In addition there are multiple scans that can be done that prove no blood flow to the crucial areas of the brain, EEGs that can show lack of electrical activity in the brain, etc.
It seems you do not want to hear the truth, just hold to your own opinion. As is famously said, you have the right to be wrong.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3107616/posts?page=166#166
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What say you now?
Two years ago you stated she was brain dead and agreed with those saying her brain was liquefying and body rotting.
What say you today, nearly two years later?
Hi exDemMom,
You’re a good person and great poster who knows science and is committed to integrity and truth. I like your posts.
Let’s look back two years ago. You wrote:
I have to think that the necrotic brain tissue is decaying, with those degradation products seeping into the blood stream and poisoning the rest of the body. Besides, without central nervous system feedback, the remaining organs must also be decomposing.
I know this is morbid, but does anyone know how long a dead body can be maintained in such a manner? I would think that since she was declared dead on Dec. 12, it is getting close to the limit.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3108097/posts?page=14#14
I am not trying to put you down here. You did not have a spirit of spite or anger.
What do you say today?
Hi Drew68,
Nearly two years ago you wrote this:
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There’s a world of difference between being in a coma and being brain dead. People in comas (now referred to medically as “persistent vegetative state”) still have brain activity, however little that might be. Their brains still receive oxygen from the blood. In Jahi’s case, there is no cerebral activity whatsoever. Her brain is dead. It is not receiving blood circulation. It is decomposing.
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She’s not injured. She’s dead.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3108097/posts?page=18#18
What do you say today, two years later?
Do you still claim her heart is not beating, as you did almost two years ago?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3109925/posts?page=5#5
Hi DCBryan1,
You wrote this almost two years ago:
She is brain dead. Her brain at this point is liquified and either draining out her nose, or is a large watery cyst. Her organs are decomposing. Her eyeballs look like raisins and the interior of her mucous linings are crawling with bacterial decomposition and stench.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3109283/posts?page=54#54
What is your opinion today?
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