A Smith & Wesson M&P9 is shown in a product photo from the firearm maker. The company sells a full line of M&P pistols.
Posted on 12/16/2015 7:09:48 PM PST by BenLurkin
Despite efforts to address the problem, the risk associated with the new Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm "remains substantial," according to the report by Los Angeles County Inspector General Max Huntsman.
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The report, an advance copy of which was obtained by CNN, found that a sheriff's department training program for deputies converting to the new gun is inadequate.
"We conclude that the current training program is insufficient to overcome old habits learned on other handguns," the 52-page report states. "As a result, many deputies appear to be to undertrained for the weapon they are using."
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Keep your booger hook off the bang switch, and it won’t go bang.
While I can see a department setting standards for service ammo, every officer has different training backgrounds, hand sizes, personal preferences, etc. When hired, deputies or officers should be given an allowance to purchase the sidearm of their choice provided it meets certain department guidelines and that the officer can qualify with that weapon. The allowance would be given with the understanding that on the officer’s departure or retirement, they would have the option of purchasing the weapon at a reduced rate, or returning the weapon to the department in exchange for having the allowance returned to them. In situations where the officer is terminated for cause, both the weapon and allowance would be surrendered to the department. New hires would be able to choose from the surrendered weapons or given the option of purchasing a new weapon of their choice.
Whew! We California Citizens are “safe” from this monster. It’s not on the CADOJ list of “certifled for sale” pistols to us commoners! It also looks as though ALL handguns that are “currently certified” go off the list on 1/1/2016, so I guess Californian’s will have to resort to the black market to get a handgun soon!
Those are some ugly-ass pistols. Seems ugly guns came into vogue about 1985. Guess blue steel and walnut is too much like work...
Departments went the wrong direction and encouraged heavy triggers to prevent accidental discharges. When they went with decent triggers their bad habits caught up.
So, it’s the training, not the gun. Fix the training.
“The weapon lacks an external safety”
My Glocks have never gone off without me squeezing the trigger.
This is nonsense.
My P320 is wonderful. It has no safety. Why? Doesn’t need it. The first stage sets up the striker. Can’t go off unless you physically pull the trigger. Solution is simple. Don’t pull the trigger till you want to fire it.
I have a P220.
I don’t own handguns with “safeties”.
;-)
So do the double-action revolvers that police carried for about a million years, until Glock showed up back in the 1980s. Didn't seem to be a problem back then.
Don’t pull the little curvy thing inside the circle until you are ready to fire. Not rocket science.
Yeah, this whole “study” is a steaming load.
Good journalism (ha ha ha) requires that the article show the M&P with the flashlight in question. That could be one of the main problems, but we need to see it. Not a stock M&P picture. That's of no value.
The lack of a safety should not be an issue. My shield has a safety that I do not use, my Kahr has no safety. They have distinctly different trigger pulls (if you've shot a Kahr, you know what I mean) which doesn't matter if you don't put your finger on the trigger. Which takes us back to that flashlight.
When my daughter was a cop they used 40 caliber Sigs with no safety. She liked hers.
I just can’t like plastic guns. I have tried them all on the extensive rental wall at my range.
Buckmark
1911
Hi-Power
I’ve got an M&P 40 without safety, also an M&P 380 Bodyguard. Both nice guns, probably same as most other types—everyone’s got preferences. The challenge, in my opinion, is training, not the gun.
Seems like a good idea.
It may be old school and single action, but I loves my Browning Hi-Power!
i carry my GLOCKs +1 all the time. i do have an OWB holster with a trigger finger lock. i practiced drawing a lot to make sure my unlocking finger NEVER got inside or even on the trigger or trigger guard. only use it when hiking in case i slide down a hill.
sounds like a training issue. i see new M&Ps can be purchased with an external thumb safety.
I have an M&P Sheild 9mm that I use as a truck/carry gun, but I keep a couple of good old 1911s in the house.
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