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Media Really Bummed They’re Losing The Gun Control Fight
Bearing Arms ^ | December 13, 2015 | Bob Owens

Posted on 12/15/2015 12:27:03 PM PST by Torcert

Oh, dear.
The Associated Press has looked at what's happened since Sandy Hook, and they've come to realize that their dreams of gutting the Second Amendment have failed spectacularly.

But in the three years since, many states have moved in the opposite direction, embracing the National Rifle Association's axiom that more "good guys with guns" are needed to deter mass shootings.

In Kansas, gun owners can now carry concealed weapons without obtaining a license. In Texas, those with permits will soon be able to carry openly in holsters and bring concealed weapons into some college classrooms. And in Arkansas, gun enthusiasts may be able to carry weapons into polling places next year when they vote for president.

Dozens of new state laws have made it easier to obtain guns and carry them in more public places and made it harder for local governments to enact restrictions, according to a review of state legislation by The Associated Press. The number of guns manufactured and sold and the number of permits to carry concealed weapons have also increased, data show.

The Associated Press isn't completely distraught, however, as it points to tiny totalitarian Michael Bloomberg and his personally bankrolled gun control groups as bright points in their otherwise collapsing movement. Bloomberg has had some limited success when he pours millions of dollars into carefully chosen political races.

What Bloomberg's not doing, however, is winning on a national level, which is why he's been forced to fight stop-gap fights on the state level to limit the damage to his cause of citizen disarmament.

We're winning..... and they can't stand it.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol; guns; lanza; natsocialistmedia; sandyhook; secondamendment
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To: Torcert

He actually told me he knew only one who owned a gun, and nobody who had ever served in the armed forces.


21 posted on 12/15/2015 1:09:11 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Torcert

They have not yet begun to lose.


22 posted on 12/15/2015 1:10:31 PM PST by The Toll
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To: 5thGenTexan

This isn’t 1930’s Germany. Mankind is wiser based on that experience,

Some of us learned from history - the rest will always be idiots.


23 posted on 12/15/2015 1:14:36 PM PST by Bitsy
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To: Torcert

Hadn’t told enough lies or spin yet.


24 posted on 12/15/2015 1:19:14 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: Torcert

Later


25 posted on 12/15/2015 1:19:42 PM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: zeestephen

Sadly, you are correct.

However, a lot of dissent on those other issues are simmering beneath surface, the national socialists can’t really tout their success on the economy and that is at least partially caused by the fiscal issues.


26 posted on 12/15/2015 1:21:23 PM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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To: Torcert

We can thank the media and Obama for stirring up so much fear that the country has mobilized against gun control and it’s also been a boon for gun sales.


27 posted on 12/15/2015 1:24:18 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Torcert

28 posted on 12/15/2015 1:25:43 PM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: Oatka

They might try, but the genius of the founding fathers is that people can look at how successful those measures are in the places they’ve been implemented.

And aside from the “Surrounding areas” excuse, they won’t be able to show much success.

I do find that idea of ‘call-in background check only’ very intriguing and something on which I would like some more information if available.

As many have pointed out - if a background check is supposed to be about the purchaser, WHY do they need to know about the gun?


29 posted on 12/15/2015 1:27:02 PM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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To: NorthMountain
Our 'gun rights' victories have occurred in the several states, not with the feds.

It's time to disband the "F Troop" SWAT squads and send them back to chasing down cigarette tax evaders.

Another big G. W. Bush mistake - Moving the BATFE from Treasury to Homeland Security instead of disbanding them.


30 posted on 12/15/2015 1:36:07 PM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: Iron Munro

In order for him to have disbanded the BATFags, he would have had to admit that NFA, GCA and the Hughes Amendment were all unconstitutional. As to the other matter ... yeah, they should be collecting excise taxes on booze and butts; maybe chasing moonshiners.


31 posted on 12/15/2015 1:39:43 PM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Torcert
As many have pointed out - if a background check is supposed to be about the purchaser, WHY do they need to know about the gun?

Why does the federal government check out an American citizen buying a gun more thoroughly than a muslim jihadi who wants to enter the USA?


32 posted on 12/15/2015 1:40:03 PM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: osagebowman
In Kansas, gun owners can now carry concealed weapons without obtaining a license.

Well dang! I missed the boat!

33 posted on 12/15/2015 1:44:58 PM PST by Overtaxed
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To: Torcert
To hell with concealed carry. To hell with pistols. To hell with small magazines. And although our enemy is armed with bombs and AK-47s and the situation obviously calls for an armed citizenry that is equipped accordingly, the Constitution recognizes, and is supposed to protect, our absolute right to walk around with rifles slung over our shoulders or, for that matter, carried in hand as we see fit and perceive the threat. Look, the Left NEVER quits pushing its agenda. We shouldn't either. Make the bastards sick to their stomachs.

Israel knows how to control terrorism and is doing a fairly good job of it. Good for them. I think Americans can do even better.

34 posted on 12/15/2015 1:48:31 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: so_real

Obama defined “the class enemy” with his `bitter clinger’ speech in 2008.

Defined as resistant to his agenda & having the means to resist.

His mentality is no different from Stalin’s, only that Obama has no NKVD and the peasants have guns, lots of guns.

The media are Obama’s running dogs; punishing gun rights people is deeply satisfying to them too.

It’s class warfare, very simple. So who are Obama’s “politically friendly” elements? Look no further than Black Lives Matter, the Occupy movement, and.....MUSLIMS.

All three of those support Obama’s contention that the white majority shouldn’t be allowed to have guns. However, the correlation of forces is against them. Their frustration becomes therefore more & more strident with hysterical calls to ban all guns from all citizens (except the aforementioned politically friendly ones).

Confiscate all the guns......can anyone say “logistical nightmare” or “armed insurrection”?


35 posted on 12/15/2015 1:48:57 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: NorthMountain
In order for him to have disbanded the BATFags, he would have had to admit that NFA, GCA and the Hughes Amendment were all unconstitutional.

GOP misses another opportunity to pull the boot of government oppression from America's throat.


36 posted on 12/15/2015 1:52:06 PM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: Torcert

The would like to repeal the 2nd Amendment if they could. Use the courts of they must.

The first one is political suicide.

The second, I don’t see how the court interprets “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” to limit or eradicate firearms. No doubt they will still try.


37 posted on 12/15/2015 1:58:25 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Iron Munro

Well, it’s not like the Moonshine, Cigarettes and Sawed-off shotgun bureaucracy has done things like send thousands of guns over the border to cause crime.... Oh wait... THEY DID!


38 posted on 12/15/2015 2:06:17 PM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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To: Iron Munro

That mostly depends on who they think is their enemy....


39 posted on 12/15/2015 2:07:23 PM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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To: The Toll

They lost in the 80’s and they lost their friend the USSR.

This time around they are going to lose their ‘collective’ minds when we win and set about dismantling their national socialist system..


40 posted on 12/15/2015 2:09:31 PM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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