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Trump Edges Cruz in Iowa; His Supporters Think Japanese Internment Was Good(Trump 28% Cruz 25%)
ppp ^ | December 15, 2015

Posted on 12/15/2015 9:51:08 AM PST by Red Steel

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To: Red Steel

Contrary to the conventional wisdom, it’s not over in Iowa. Me thinks Trump has a shot.


21 posted on 12/15/2015 10:05:53 AM PST by hotsteppa
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To: ctdonath2

Everything is OK in war and love.


22 posted on 12/15/2015 10:06:19 AM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump 2016!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

“It was necessary.”

So think many who would confiscate your guns, silence you (permanently) from denying “climate change”, etc. That’s not hyperbole, that’s what a large and growing number of voters contend: incarcerating, and even killing, you is acceptable means toward their sociopolitical ends.


23 posted on 12/15/2015 10:06:58 AM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: traderrob6

President Santorum agrees with you.
And so does president Huckabee.


24 posted on 12/15/2015 10:07:49 AM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump 2016!)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Correct.


25 posted on 12/15/2015 10:07:54 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: MNDude

That’s the message we should be getting out: it’s the LEFT who, currently _and_ historically, wants to incarcerate/kill those who they suspect of sociopolitical doubleplusungoodcrimethink.


26 posted on 12/15/2015 10:08:41 AM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: Red Steel

If these are real numbers, people calling themselves Republican are a less conservative than I thought.

Maybe the Uniparty is a reflection of reality?


27 posted on 12/15/2015 10:08:51 AM PST by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: ctdonath2
Well, if are nation was at war with the Tea Party and Tea Partier’s across the globe were attacking us, and if climate deniers were blowing up innocent people and flying planes into building. Then yes, I would then support internment for their supporters here too.

War or more specifically WINNING a war requires doing things that would be inappropriate at other times.

But we dont seem interested in WINNING wars anymore, thus we now lose them all.

28 posted on 12/15/2015 10:09:41 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: Red Steel
His Supporters Think Japanese Internment Was Good
It might not have been "good" but, like temporarily restricting Muslims/Islamists it's necessary.
29 posted on 12/15/2015 10:10:16 AM PST by lewislynn ( You know you're a Muslim if everything offends you.)
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To: Red Steel

I’m still trying to figure out how temporarily banning immigration has anything in common with the internment of US citizens during WWII.


30 posted on 12/15/2015 10:10:59 AM PST by Durbin
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To: Red Steel

I’m a Trump supporter and I say, INTERN ‘EM ALL!!!

I didn’t know it was so bad to be an intern...


31 posted on 12/15/2015 10:12:11 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Red Steel

“His supporters think Japanese internment was good.”

Maybe they are more thoughtful than modern progressives. Of course internment was not good. However, things could have been worse. Modern progressives, only semi-literate in most cases and almost inevitably not well-educated, probably have no idea how bad it was for German-Americans during WWI. Social shunning just scratched the surface. Beatings and other acts of violence were also common. I knew elderly Germans in the Midwest in 1960 who were still in shock over how they were treated in WWI because they spoke English with a heavy German accent and had German names. Think how much worse it would have been for Japanese, who differed in appearance, too.

Suppose Roosevelt, the sainted progressive of his day, had not interned the Japanese. Remember that Americans of the early 1940s were violent, racist, bigots by today’s standards. Progressives always point this out, but then fail to understand its potential consequences.

Suppose there had been a “terror attack” by a Japanese or Japanese-American in 1942 like the one that just occurred in San Bernadino, even against a military target. How many innocent Japanese and Japanese-Americans would have been killed in the massive race riots that would almost certainly have followed?

Internment, especially internment that was carried out as unjustly as the one under Roosevelt, is bad, no doubt about it. But it could have been much, much worse. And by the way, Progressives, prison camps are just one aspect of the totalitarian government you long for so greatly. So get used to them.


32 posted on 12/15/2015 10:12:23 AM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: MNDude

FDR was a racist just like his mentor Woodrow Wilson. Can anybody name one thing that FDR did to help the black people in America? FDR could have integrated the armed forces. FDR could have issued an order and any white soldiers who did not obey the order would have been punished. It was the redneck from a Confederate family, Truman, who integrated the armed forces. Sure, Truman used the “N” word, but actions speak louder than words.


33 posted on 12/15/2015 10:13:46 AM PST by forgotten man
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To: gtk
I didn't know about that. Thanks for posting that. But it makes perfect sense and concretely demonstrates exactly why it was RIGHT to inter the Japs during the war.

Internment might have saved 1,000 of lives.

Heck, for all we know internment might have help us win the war. Who's to say what damage a enemy sympathizer might have done. Told about D day? Told about the A bomb? or a thousand other things.

34 posted on 12/15/2015 10:15:35 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: Grampa Dave
Below is a reality that has been hidden by the left wing media re German Americans in WWII. Not only Japanese were interned during WWII, Germans were, and Italians were closely monitored in coastal areas.

Over twelve million people in the U.S. were either born in Germany or had one or both parents born in Germany at the time World War II broke out. Only 11,500 were interned, and vast majority of those were German nationals. Comparing what Germans went through to what Japanese-Americans went through is ridiculous.

35 posted on 12/15/2015 10:16:06 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: TexasFreeper2009

A large percentage of voters consider the NRA a terrorist organization responsible for the deaths of thousands annually, and consider “climate deniers” responsible for the looming extinction of humanity and most other species - both pretty much on par with the “war” you’re referring to - and they’re calling for your execution if not silence. You’d object thereto based on “natural rights” and “facts”.

I’m very concerned that, while I agree about the basic problem, too many “right wing” types are abandoning their conservative principles to destroy a poorly-defined “them”.


36 posted on 12/15/2015 10:16:21 AM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: Red Steel

So Trump’s pandering on ethanol was for a purpose.


37 posted on 12/15/2015 10:19:23 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Red Steel

Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither and will lose both.


38 posted on 12/15/2015 10:27:39 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: ctdonath2

Have you ever heard of the Black Dragon fraternity? It was a social group of Japanese ex-pats associated with the Japanese military.

What happened in the Philippines when the Japanese military invaded those islands greatly influenced what happened later in the USA. Members of Black Dragon, mainly shopkeepers and small businessmen, closed up their shops, changed into Japanese Army uniforms and took out their hidden rifles. Then they went about murdering their neighbors, conducting sabotage of infrastructure, and attacking the rear and flanks of the Philippine defenders. They facilitated the Japanese takeover of the Philippine Islands.

The US government, after the attack on Pearl Harbor, was left with a difficult decision. The seething resentment and anger of the general population within the 48 continental states was palpable. There existed Black Dragon fraternities within ethnic Japanese communities, but the government was more concerned with the reactions by the general population to any efforts made by Black Dragon members. The last thing the government wanted was a rampaging campaign of elimination against Asians.

Internment and theft of possessions was the least of it.


39 posted on 12/15/2015 10:29:15 AM PST by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF TWO USA CITIZENS)
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To: DoodleDawg

Internment of German Americans - Wikipedia, the free ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/.../Internment_of_German_Americans
Wikipedia

Jump to World War II - In the 1940 US census, some 1,237,000 persons identified as being ... becoming naturalized United States citizens and many did so. The large number of German Americans of recent connection to Germany, and their ... A total of 11,507 people of German ancestry were interned during the war.

1,237,000 not 12 million.


40 posted on 12/15/2015 10:32:53 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Obama has groomed CAIR to be THE voice of Islam in the USA as a dangerous political force in the USA)
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