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Littoral Combat Ships’ Mine-Hunting Drones Can’t Find Mines, Pentagon Finds
gcaptain.com ^ | 12/12/15 | bloomberg

Posted on 12/12/2015 5:18:54 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER

(Bloomberg) — The U.S. Navy’s new Littoral Combat Ship would be ineffective at hunting for mines because an underwater drone made by Lockheed Martin Corp. that’s supposed to find them often fails to work, the Pentagon’s weapons-testing office found.


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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boondoggle; lcs; mine; navy; pos; ship; wasteofmoney
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Sig Hansen can catch crabs with it.
1 posted on 12/12/2015 5:18:54 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: Jeff Head

ping


2 posted on 12/12/2015 5:23:10 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
The Navy plans to spend $864 million buying 54 drones from Lockheed, the biggest U.S. contractor.

That is $46.6 M *per* drone. And they don't work. At what point does this become treason?

3 posted on 12/12/2015 5:29:02 AM PST by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER


4 posted on 12/12/2015 5:36:37 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING ’VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Excerpt:

Most recently, the drones failed 14 times over 300 hours in a five-month round of preliminary trials at sea that ended Aug. 30, according to the data. Crippled drones were towed to port seven times, and the intense combat testing required for increased purchases has been delayed. The Navy plans to spend $864 million buying 54 drones from Lockheed, the biggest U.S. contractor.

The drone failures add to previous questions about how much value the U.S. will get from what's now supposed to be a $23 billion program to build 32 2 Littoral Combat Ships in two versions made by Bethesda, Maryland-based Lockheed and Austal Ltd. based in Henderson, Australia. Both versions depend on the drones to detect mines from a safe distance. ...

Further, the Littoral Combat Ship's separate, airborne-based AN/ASQ-235 mine neutralization system currently can't disable "most of the mines contained in the Navy's own real-world threat scenarios," Rankine-Galloway said. The system, which would be deployed on MH-60S helicopters, is intended to destroy the mines found by the drones.

5 posted on 12/12/2015 5:39:05 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Flick Lives
At what point does this become treason?

Dunno. What happened to the developers of the early WWII torpedoes?

WWI torpedoes were better made, and the Pacific War (in particular) could have been much shorter.

6 posted on 12/12/2015 5:40:09 AM PST by Does so (Europeans better start becoming "Illegal Immigrants" to the USA. ==8-O)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Give me a “C” Vanna


7 posted on 12/12/2015 5:41:09 AM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Every generation of weapons renders the previous generation obsolete.

That’s why we keep them secret as long as possible.


8 posted on 12/12/2015 5:43:52 AM PST by Vermont Lt (I had student debt. It came from a bank. Not from the Govt.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Every generation of weapons renders the previous generation obsolete.

That’s why we keep them secret as long as possible.


9 posted on 12/12/2015 5:43:53 AM PST by Vermont Lt (I had student debt. It came from a bank. Not from the Govt.)
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To: Joe Brower

They have been redesignated as frigates. The FFG-7s were better than this. They worked.


10 posted on 12/12/2015 5:50:09 AM PST by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight,)
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To: Flick Lives

I think you answered your own question. NEVER

“Lockheed, the biggest U.S. contractor”

Too important to fail. The kick backs to politicians and bureaucrats on $864,000,000.00, even in 2015 inflated dollars is pretty important to the recipients.


11 posted on 12/12/2015 5:58:49 AM PST by Tupelo (Honest men go to Washington, but honest men do not stay in Washington.)
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To: bravo whiskey

The McNamera idea is apparently still in play. If you try to build a ship with multiple mission capability, something will be compromised. In a worse case scenario you end up with lots of money wasted and a resulting ship that will always be limited.


12 posted on 12/12/2015 6:00:58 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Zumwalt being towed after break down - Navy Times story blocked.
13 posted on 12/12/2015 6:05:30 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Does so; Flick Lives

It’s actually $16 million per drone, still a whopping amount of money.

The analogy to early World War II torpedoes is perhaps misapplied. The programmatic problem with World War II torpedoes was inadequate testing. Once combat had revealed the problems that testing should have, the shipyard at Pearl Harbor performed their own tests and was able to identify the problems and fix them relatively cheaply and easily.

The problem with these drones may be resolved by tweeking a few software parameters, or the concept may be flawed and the whole program is a waste of taxpayer money. I suspect the truth lies somewhere in between.


14 posted on 12/12/2015 6:08:03 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Men need a reason to shop. Women need a place.)
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To: PIF

That is reportedly the USS Milwaukee being towed. Here is the Navy times story:
http://scoopdeck.navytimes.com/2015/12/12/the-navys-newest-ship-breaks-down-limps-into-port/


15 posted on 12/12/2015 6:18:14 AM PST by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: PIF

Got a link for the Zumwalt towed story?


16 posted on 12/12/2015 6:59:27 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Go to navytimes.com


17 posted on 12/12/2015 7:40:47 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

Dang, the Merrimack broke down?


18 posted on 12/12/2015 7:57:13 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Charles Martel

Yep, ran over the Monitor’s tow line and blew its engine.


19 posted on 12/12/2015 7:58:08 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

In any case, a different ship than the littorals in this article.


20 posted on 12/12/2015 8:21:14 AM PST by Ready4Freddy
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