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Cruz won’t attack Trump, but why won’t Trump attack Cruz?
Hotair ^ | 12/11/2015 | AllahPundit

Posted on 12/11/2015 1:23:38 PM PST by SeekAndFind

A thought inspired by this morning’s skirmish. Everyone understands why Cruz is laying off Trump. Cruz wants his voters and he’s afraid that if he attacks, those voters will turn on him viciously. It’s painful to watch a guy who built his career as a fearless warrior against RINOs fawning over the biggest RINO in the race out of naked self-interest, but you can’t fault his strategy. Trump doesn’t just have a base, he has a cult of personality. Attack him and they’re apt to treat you as an outright enemy. You tread lightly around a man like that when you want something from his supporters.

That calculus doesn’t apply to Trump, though. Cruz has lots of fans, some very devoted and some less so, but he doesn’t have a cult of personality like Trump does. That’s because, I think, Cruz’s personality isn’t much of an asset to him. (It may be a liability.) Cruz fans like him because he really is a dogmatic conservative who’s on the right side of nearly every issue. Their loyalty is to the cause more so than to the man. Not so for Trumpers. Which means, if he wanted to, Trump could unload on Cruz without alienating the entirety of Cruz fans the way Trump fans would be universally alienated if Cruz went after Trump. Some Cruz fans would hold a grudge; if Cruz started to slip in the polls because of the attacks, many of them would opt for Marco Rubio over Trump on the theory that Rubio is a good conservative on most issues. But some Cruz fans, I think, would shift to Trump for a reason articulated by Cruz himself this morning:

The Establishment's only hope: Trump & me in a cage match. Sorry to disappoint — @realDonaldTrump is terrific. #DealWithIt

— Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) December 11, 2015

Not a word about conservatism there, just “the Establishment.” Some Cruz fans probably prefer him to Trump because they’d rather nominate a populist who’s conservative, because they respect Cruz as a man of faith, because they like Cruz’s polished speaking style more than Trump’s, etc. But those people aren’t “Cruz or bust” voters. Primarily, as Cruz said, they’re against “the Establishment.” And if Trump could prove to them that he’d be better at bringing down the Establishment than Cruz would, some would shift to him. To put it another way, what Cruz fans and Trump fans all have in common is that they’re populists. Some Cruz fans are more populist than they are conservative. Those people are gettable by Trump. So why isn’t he trying to get them?

One possibility is that Trump is playing the same sort of game Cruz is. Why risk alienating another candidate’s supporters by attacking before you absolutely have to? But Trump has never followed that logic. He ripped Jeb Bush apart, went after Rubio as a “lightweight,” attacked Ben Carson — whose voters also want an “outsider” as nominee — as borderline nutty because of his youthful violent behavior, and so on. Trump’s always been willing to risk annoying other candidates’ committed supporters in the name of shaking loose the not so committed ones. Jeb is an especially instructive example because Trump’s main line of attack on him is that he’s a weakling. He’s “low energy,” he seems reluctant to fight back when Trump attacks, he’s not the sort of strong, self-assured leader America needs in troubled times. For all the ink spilled about why Trump’s fans are so dazzled by him, I think the alpha-male factor continues to get short shrift. Trump’s takedown of Jeb resonated because it exposed Jeb, the supposed 800-pound establishment gorilla, as a beta male who didn’t know what to do when he got slapped. He’s never been the same.

So here we are in December and there’s another guy who reeks of weakling jitters around Trump. It’s not the same type of jitters as Jeb — Cruz’s toadying to Trump has a tactical purpose whereas Jeb’s hesitance seemed more a product of his character. Even so, Trump seems to relish diminishing the men around him and Cruz’s reluctance to attack is an inscribed invitation to begin the diminishing. No one is more contemptuous of a beta male than the alpha to whom he’s toadying. Even some Cruz fans are disgusted with how far Cruz has gone to avoid conflict:

It's official. I'm embarrassed that I spent so much time helping this man get elected. Not sorry. https://t.co/1jAmiOB0X4

— C. Whalen Stephens (@CorieWStephens) December 11, 2015

If you like Cruz because he’s willing to tell Mitch McConnell to go to hell, watching him rapidly backpedal from Trump — who’s really not even pretending to be conservative at this point — is gross, whatever the strategic considerations. Which brings me back to the question: Why won’t Trump needle Cruz for acting like a beta the way he needled Jeb? He’s hinted at it before. He pointed out this morning that Cruz seems willing to criticize him in private but not in public, and he likes to note when asked about Cruz how Cruz seems to agree with literally everything he says. Painting Cruz as a beta male instead of criticizing his positions would also spare Trump from saying anything that might be taken as a criticism of conservatism, which would be a dangerous move. Again, if it’s true that Cruz’s fans are mainly loyal to the cause more so than to the man then Trump can get personal with Cruz without hopelessly alienating too many of them — weakling! toady! dumb shutdown idea! bought and sold by his alpha-male donors! — so long as he doesn’t get political. And Trump has good reason to do it. Now that polls are showing Cruz ahead in Iowa and with him having just landed Bob Vander Plaats’s endorsement, the sooner he tries to start taking Cruz down, the better for him.

If Trump launched an attack on Cruz, it would put Cruz in a bind. If he continues to hold his fire to appease Trump voters, even with Trump giving him both barrels, he’ll look even weaker than Jeb. If he decides he has no choice but to engage then he’ll probably end up alienating Trump voters even though Trump started it. That’s how cults of personalities work, after all; the leader is always right. That is to say, Trump could force Cruz into a situation where he has little to gain no matter what he does and much to lose. I think Cruz would have no choice but to hit back and to do it as politely as possible, hoping that the spectacle of him RINO-stomping Trump would appeal to some undecided anti-Trump voters on the right and boost his numbers that way. There may be voters out there who are leaning towards Rubio over Cruz but who hate Trump and would give Cruz a second look if he led the charge (reluctantly) against Trump. After all, it’s not as if Rubio’s been some warrior against Trump thus far — although he’s been tougher on him than Cruz has. How could he not be?

One more thing. The “true conservative” theory of elections for years now has been that the party will only win when it finally nominates a principled conservative who’s skilled at preaching for the cause. That’s Cruz. That’s the “bold colors, not pale pastels” strategy. Supposedly there’s a winning conservative majority out there but those voters aren’t showing up because you’re not connecting with them. You can’t win with a squish like McCain or Romney because guys like that aren’t selling full-spectrum conservatism. Go out there, show people that you’re going to govern like they want, and you’ll win every time. How come that approach isn’t working with Trump voters? Cruz is out there, preaching the good news of Reaganism, and not only is Trump leading nationally and in most states but Cruz is terrified that calling him out as a RINO, which he is, would backfire horribly. We’ve got the right messenger here, supposedly, and he’s offering the right message. Trump fans aren’t buying (yet). Why not?


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To: SeekAndFind

Trump never attacks first.


121 posted on 12/11/2015 5:25:14 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: SmokingJoe

This tape isn’t playing in its entirety like it did on the evening news. Cruz is the one who wants to appear “nice”, whereas Trump bars nothing. It was Cruz’ remarks about “ bear hugging Trump and Carson” and “smothering them with love” for the public benefit that rubbed me the wrong way. It just didn’t sound like the serious Mr. Nice Guy he is in public. I’m of the same mind as Trump. Don’t save snide remarks for private meetings. Bring ‘em on! That’s why I like Trump’s style.

This issue just points up why I support Trump. He doesn’t have to bother with private kow towing to donors. Cruz had better be more circumspect about his tone in these meetings. They’re never really “private” as Rommney could attest.


122 posted on 12/11/2015 5:26:33 PM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: Jane Long

I’ve never seen Trump make those same moves, the exact movements that this disabled reporter makes because of his condition.

People can check out the clip and decide for themselves.


123 posted on 12/11/2015 5:27:15 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: Ouderkirk
It’s going to be Trump/Cruz 2016

How much would like to bet?

How about $10k?

You want to bet?

We can have some FReeper hold out monies....

What say you?

124 posted on 12/11/2015 5:28:28 PM PST by Osage Orange (Bill Clinton the pervert between the two Bushes..........)
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To: conservativejoy

You’ve never seen Trump makes those moves.

Yet, it was discussed ad-nuaseum on many threads, here and elsewhere.

Here’s just one thread that you can take a look at....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3365503/posts


125 posted on 12/11/2015 5:30:56 PM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Just my opinion, but if Ted can’t win the Presidency, I’d rather see him as Attorney General under President Trump. Ted knows the law, and would be a million times better than the corrupt Holder, and Lynch.


126 posted on 12/11/2015 5:35:55 PM PST by EvilCapitalist (I'd rather be islamophobic and alive, than tolerant and dead.)
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To: Vision Thing
But no, after 3000 words, no answer. What a ripoff.

You're right. I guess that's what I was waiting for, but finally gave up on.

127 posted on 12/11/2015 5:36:30 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Jane Long

Show me a video clip of Trump making those moves other than when he was mocking the disabled guy. He even mimicked the guys speech which is somewhat effected.


128 posted on 12/11/2015 5:40:35 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: nopardons
Trump NEVER "attacks" first...he's a "COUNTER PUNCHER"!

UNFAIR,

You're supposed to write a thousand word column never give the reason.

129 posted on 12/11/2015 5:58:08 PM PST by Balding_Eagle ( (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.))
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To: Osage Orange
Seriously? Bet on a political race? Follow the link and get some help.

http://www.gamblersanonymous.org/ga/

I do think that it's going to be Trump/Cruz 2016. From a purely mathematical examination, Trump is numerically up on his opponents by more than one would expect at this point. This in turn, creates a certain momentum that can be difficult to stop with a front-loaded primary like we have this time.

I am not arguing that Trump is better than Cruz. I have very strong reservations about both of them.

And from my perspective, by the time my state holds its primary I might as well vote for myself for all the good it will do.

130 posted on 12/11/2015 6:41:20 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Ouderkirk
Bet me,,!!

Ha!!

131 posted on 12/11/2015 6:57:33 PM PST by Osage Orange (Bill Clinton the pervert between the two Bushes..........)
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To: Eddie01

I know it’s ‘common knowledge’ that the VP doesn’t do much, but in Trumps case, I just don’t believe that would happen. Trump is too smart of an executive to just waste a high power talent like Cruz. I’m sure that Donald would pinpoint what Cruz’s strength are, and would put him in a position where he would be of the most use. Then he would work him just like any other top level executive. Again, Trump is too smart to just waste talent that he has working for him.


132 posted on 12/11/2015 7:21:58 PM PST by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This certainly is a “Everybody is a RINO except you and me, and some times I have my doubts about you” complaint. I wonder if Allah ever considered that Cruz might actually agree with many of the positions that Trump has taken that are hated so by the press.


133 posted on 12/12/2015 5:13:40 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: conservativejoy

You are an insufferable TDS Troll.
I. n. s. u. f. f. e. r. a. b. l. e.

Donald Trump isn`t Serious
Donald Trump is a Clown
Donald Trump lost ESPN and Macys
Donald Trump invited Hillary to his wedding
Donald Trump has no specifics
Donald Trump calls people Stupid
Donald Trump is opposed to *all* Immigration
Donald Trump makes fun of womens appearance
Donald Trump mocks people with disabilities
Donald Trump has no government experience
Donald Trump wants to ban *all* muslims
Donald Trump will not be the nominee
Donald Trump is Hitler
Donald Trump is getting too much media coverage
Donald Trump met with Bill Clinton 7 weeks before his decision to run
Donald Trump is not a Christian


134 posted on 12/12/2015 2:09:21 PM PST by Eddie01
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To: Osage Orange
I wanted to revisit this item for a moment.

It's going to be Trump/Cruz 2016

How much would like to bet?

How about $10k?

You want to bet?

We can have some FReeper hold out monies....

What say you?

With each passing day it is looking more and more like this was the correct assertion at the time. Based on what's been happening of late with Trump as the leader in delegates, Cruz is in a solid position to have a say at the convention, and between the two of them they could prevent a contested convention and Viola! we have Trump/Cruz 2016 as I said.

135 posted on 03/16/2016 6:05:14 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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