This doesn’t really, in a practical sense, answer the objection raised.
Let’s think about this realistically and ponder, in our supercharged politically correct environment, assuming such a question could even be asked in such an environment, could anyone reasonably state that an immigration official, at some airport or even at the southern border, would say, “I’m not convinced you’re not a Muslim”, if an immigrant answered “no” to the question?
I submit there is no way such a person would do so. Why? Because they would have to justify their disbelief on something. I understand that legally they wouldn’t have to justify their disbelief but this isn’t some thought experiment for some class in law. Just imagine the outcry from the left the first time some “poor refugee family” was denied entry JUST because a border agent or customs official THOUGHT they were Muslim, “just because”.
“Just because of what?” The question would be asked and then some “egregiously” politically incorrect reply would be given akin to “their skin was too brown”.
This is what it would come to and we all know it. It’s a great idea for red meat feasts, but it’s absolutely impossible to implement. I’d really like anyone to explain to me how it could be possible, because quite frankly I see such a proposal having the exact opposite effect of what it intends. Imagine the following:
Customs official asks terrorist A: Are you a Muslim? Answer “no”, he gets let in.
Custom official asks innocent refugee B who also happens to be Muslim (and honest): are you a Muslim? Answer “yes”.
So we would actually end up filtering out the ones who happen to be peaceful while letting ONLY the terrorists (who are willing to lie) IN.
Does the US have a right to exclude whoever it (we) want of course we do. But there’s no practical way to implement a “Ban on all Muslims”. It’s not like there’s a blood test for it.
but, to deny being a Muslim is to become apostate.
to be apostate is to be punished by death
But then, why is Obama still living?
Why do you concern trolls even bother? It's not like the 90s where people might have been fooled.
Here's how Trump's plan works: You're issued an immigration card. You lie about your religion. You're allowed entry to the country. For you (or to be more accurate, for whomever you work), that's a done deal.
But the way reality actually works is that all pre-citizenship papers are contingent. That means for the given grace period, say 5-7 years, at any point you are found to have lied on the original application (ie reported going to a mosque, having groups of Muslim "friends" aka foot soldiers over, etc, then there are a series of events that would take place to revoke whatever permit one may posses.
Under the current regime, of course none of this would happen, but in an enforcement minded administration, this would be straightforward government operations.
A permanent can be passed by Congress and the Pres signing it. Our founding fathers would roll over if they read what Ted Kennedy did in 1990 or before.
I agree.
But the whole question is moot.
The application process should start from the assumption that NO ONE who is not already a citizen is entitled to enter the USA, regardless of religion or affiliation.
We start with this premise, that the applicant has the burden of proof to prove to US citizens that he/she will be a good citizen or alien resident (or even tourist) of the USA and will faithfully follow all its laws. It is up to the applicant to persuade us to let them in. Let them do the work of persuasion.
The question should not be Are you a Muslim? The question should be Why should we allow you into our country?
If we do not start with this premise, what we have is virtually everyone on the entire planet is a de facto US citizen.
No other country on earth would submit themselves to this presumed entitlement. If there is one, let them do it first and let us see how it works out before we commit to it.
Of course you’re correct, but logic isn’t what gets support, feel good knee-jerk posting is. We’re all liberals now.
Doesn’t Israel do a good job in screening?
“But there’s no practical way to implement a “Ban on all Muslimsâ€. It’s not like there’s a blood test for it.”
You’ve got no imagination.
Just ask them to draw a cartoon of Mohammed!