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NYT: Americans With Assault Rifles Should 'Give Them Up For The Good Of Their Fellow Citizens'
Townhall.com ^ | December 6, 2015 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 12/06/2015 6:48:55 PM PST by Kaslin

Well, it seems the media's horrific campaign of inaccuracy hasn't stopped. According to Reuters, for the first time in nearly a century, The New York Times editorial board took their plea for gun bans to the front page on Saturday, calling our nation's inaction on gun control a "moral outrage and a national disgrace." No, we shouldn't be surprised that they decided to follow the likes of the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times with their own inane call to arms for gun control. And we shouldn't be shocked that they want policies that employ confiscatory measures, while also banning an entire class of firearms, specifically assault rifles and certain types of ammunition [emphasis mine]:

It is a moral outrage and a national disgrace that civilians can legally purchase weapons designed specifically to kill people with brutal speed and efficiency. These are weapons of war, barely modified and deliberately marketed as tools of macho vigilantism and even insurrection. America's elected leaders offer prayers for gun victims and then, callously and without fear of consequence, reject the most basic restrictions on weapons of mass killing, as they did on Thursday. They distract us with arguments about the word terrorism. Let's be clear: These spree killings are all, in their own ways, acts of terrorism.

It is not necessary to debate the peculiar wording of the Second Amendment. No right is unlimited and immune from reasonable regulation.

Certain kinds of weapons, like the slightly modified combat rifles used in California, and certain kinds of ammunition, must be outlawed for civilian ownership. It is possible to define those guns in a clear and effective way and, yes, it would require Americans who own those kinds of weapons to give them up for the good of their fellow citizens.

First, let's give it up for the New York Times, and their like-minded colleagues in the media and in politics for driving up gun sales. Undoubtedly, after all of this nonsensical discussion about gun control, gun and ammo sales will go up (that's a good thing). The irony never ceases to amaze me how the very faction of this country what wants to deploy unconstitutional gun control measures, only end up becoming better gun salespersons.

Moreover, every mass shooting is an act of terror? They're not. Mass shootings can be part of a terrorist's arsenal of carnage to push whatever agenda they have in mind, but not every mass shooting is terrorism. The same logic is applied to defining genocide. Genocide is mass killing, but not all mass killings are genocides. What happened in Paris was a horrific terrorist attack perpetrated by ISIS. They had an agenda. They deployed suicide bombers and shooters to target scores of innocent Parisians, which they thought could influence the nation's policy in the Middle East. The Islamic State attacked France for insulting the prophet Muhammad; they called Paris "the capital of abomination and perversion;" and perhaps the most important part–the French were attacked due to their intervention in Syria. There are multiple definitions of terrorism; almost every singe one includes some form of political goal. There was no such goal when Adam Lanza senselessly murdered 20 schoolchildren in Newtown in 2012, hence why it was called a mass shooting, and not an act of terrorism. Concerning the San Bernardino shooting, it's now a federal terrorism investigation. We'll know in due time the motives and aims behind this attack.

The Times says that it's easy to define "combat rifles," though they apparently didn't know the definition of terrorism and the left has tried to do this back in the early 1990s with the Assault Weapons Ban. It was a laughable piece of comedy that was attached to the overall Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act in 1994, that was partially responsible for historic Democratic losses in the midterm elections. When it expired in 2004, the data showed that these weapons are a) rarely used in crimes, which remains so to this day and b) did next to nothing to reduce violent crime. Oddly enough, the New York Times ran a piece in September of 2014 highlighting that fact:

…[I]n the 10 years since the previous ban lapsed, even gun control advocates acknowledge a larger truth: The law that barred the sale of assault weapons from 1994 to 2004 made little difference.

It turns out that big, scary military rifles don't kill the vast majority of the 11,000 Americans murdered with guns each year. Little handguns do[*].

In 2012, only 322 people were murdered with any kind of rifle, F.B.I. data shows.

The policy proved costly. Mr. Clinton blamed the ban for Democratic losses in 1994. Crime fell, but when the ban expired, a detailed study found no proof that it had contributed to the decline.

The ban did reduce the number of assault weapons recovered by local police, to 1 percent from roughly 2 percent.

"Should it be renewed, the ban's effects on gun violence are likely to be small at best and perhaps too small for reliable measurement," a Department of Justice-funded evaluation concluded.

Lastly, the "it would require Americans who own those kinds of weapons to give them up for the good of their fellow citizens" part. Why? The vast majority of gun owners–99.9 percent according to Sen. Bernie Sanders are law-abiding. They have to turn them over because the liberal political class is egregiously ignorant on this issue? They have to turn them over because while they aren't used often in gun crimes, liberals are afraid of them? The Times has shown that the left is getting closer to outright saying having assault rifles in one's home warrants the National Guard, FBI, ATF, and local law enforcement busting down your door, terrifying your family, and confiscating constitutionally protected items.

Any rational person should balks at this proposal. Any Second Amendment supporter would, as in other counties, should (and probably would) completely ignore the call to hand over their firearms. But if you're a liberal in keeping with their principle that government power should be controlled by the few in order to be dictated to the rest of us you must believe this is a good policy. If ending gun violence enhances the public good, then by all means strip law-abiding Americans of their rights; the end result will pay off. It's a perverse notion.

This is where this debate is heading and it's getting messier with each horrific mass shooting. The left is now mixing terrorism and mass shootings to push a narrative to eviscerate the Second Amendment. We once again have rehashed stories about the AR-15 rifle, which isn't as powerful as a hunting rifle and rarely used in crimes. And we have the media endorsing gun control policies that would require gun bans and confiscation. They're insinuating parts of it, but the brash call to ban guns entirely is coming.

Yes, not every right is absolute. There are restrictions, but government and active citizenry should work to maximize these rights to their fullest extent. The pre-existing laws on guns are fine. We need to have a debate on how to revamp our mental health system, and integrate it into our background check system. The problem is that it doesn't accomplish the left's goal of destroying gun rights, so they'll do everything in their power to prevent that debate.

*Support for a handgun ban is insanely low



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To: Kaslin

There is no such thing as an ‘ assault rifle ‘

It’s a make up libtard term...


101 posted on 12/06/2015 8:29:54 PM PST by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: chris37

I see that gif of the girl posted here often. Who is she?


102 posted on 12/06/2015 8:30:46 PM PST by Inyo-Mono
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To: Kaslin

As soon as I am finished, then to my children.


103 posted on 12/06/2015 8:36:51 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (If God himself said every 50 years debt should be erased, and land returned, who am I to disagree?)
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To: RC one

I lost my guns in a tragic boating accident.


104 posted on 12/06/2015 8:53:04 PM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: VerySadAmerican
Were the AR15s the muslims used modified in any way?

They weren't CA compliant. Supposed to have 'bullet button' on the mag catch to make in inconvenient to remove the magazine. The mag is allowed to be more than 10 rd (lots of loaded 30 rd recovered), muzzle brake must be pinned or welded, stock must be fully extended and pinned to prevent collapse. None of which matters SQUAT. Pulling the trigger when aimed at defenseless humans was the actual crime.

105 posted on 12/06/2015 8:55:33 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Kaslin
NYT: No right is unlimited and immune from reasonable regulation.

I think it's reasonable to revoke the right of the New York Times to print its lies.

Common-sense "freedom of the press" control.

106 posted on 12/06/2015 9:01:56 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: Kaslin

If it makes you feel better, I just *gasp* traded for my very own “assault rifle” tonight. No background check, just a bill of sale and a hand shake. Damn, I do LOVE living in Texas!


107 posted on 12/06/2015 9:15:53 PM PST by gop4lyf (Gay marriage is neither)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t own one at the moment, but guess this is good point to do so. My 2nd Amendment Christmas present to myself and a stick in Obama’s eye.


108 posted on 12/06/2015 9:33:32 PM PST by Reno89519 (American Lives Matter! US Citizen, Veteran, Conservative, Republican. I vote. Trump 2016.)
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To: Avid Coug

I think Zer0 should submit right now to a thorough independent drug test with inspectors to validate the truthfulness of the test. Anyone wishing Americans to give up their Constitutionally protected rights should find out how it feels to give up their privacy which is not even a Constitutionally protected right.


109 posted on 12/06/2015 9:40:39 PM PST by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: wjcsux

That’s a damn shame.


110 posted on 12/06/2015 9:42:29 PM PST by RC one (....and subject to the jurisdiction thereof)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe they should offer a non assault weapon of equal value in exchange.


111 posted on 12/06/2015 9:42:41 PM PST by Mike Darancette (CA the sanctuary state for stupid.)
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To: Kaslin

I’ll keep my weapons and “give up” the NYT.


112 posted on 12/06/2015 9:45:20 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: Kaslin
Hey, LIBTARDS and MSM, come pick them up, but first let me take your picture for my picturebook, look into the little lens on top and say,

"CHEESE!"



Read the CONSTITUTION you (as Trump would say) "chicken sh*!s" .
113 posted on 12/06/2015 9:47:37 PM PST by wubjo
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To: Inyo-Mono

That is Jennifer Lawrence, star of The Hunger Games and well known total liberal psychopath.

That is just about the most useful gif to respond to almost any news story in America though.


114 posted on 12/06/2015 9:49:08 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: dsc

Another hackneyed phrase is “common-sense restrictions on guns”
or “common sense gun laws”.

Anything else said by the speaker will be anti-second amendment.
The only thing common sense IS the second amendment.


115 posted on 12/06/2015 9:50:16 PM PST by alpo
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To: VerySadAmerican
Our country is run by idiots.

They're not idiots, but they are trying to influence the "useful idiots" out there who actually read the NYT. The NYT is run by evil men who know exactly what they are doing.

116 posted on 12/06/2015 9:50:52 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: VerySadAmerican
Yes, stated to be "modified to be more lethal."

I think that is also against Caly's gun law come to think of it so that report could not have been accurate. /sarc>
117 posted on 12/06/2015 9:51:53 PM PST by wubjo
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To: Kaslin

Translated into English straight from the NSDAP talking points.


118 posted on 12/06/2015 9:51:59 PM PST by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: Disambiguator

The best use for the NYT is to line the kitty litter box.


119 posted on 12/06/2015 9:52:13 PM PST by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: Lazamataz

Oh, I get it now. Resistor.


120 posted on 12/06/2015 9:58:41 PM PST by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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