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Barbara Boxer, a day after the San Bernardino massacre:
Hot Air.com ^ | December 3, 2015 | ALLAHPUNDIT

Posted on 12/03/2015 7:33:26 PM PST by Kaslin

Via the Free Beacon, the first rule of politics in action: When you’ve got a big “success” on your hands, you’ve gotta tout it.

Is it true, as she says, that gun violence is way down in California since they started passing more gun-grabbing laws? Sure. It’s also down in states that haven’t passed such laws. Gun violence has been dropping across America for 20 years now, although the decline has leveled off a bit over the last few years (possibly due to more suicides over economic despair). Here’s a stat I’ve seen before but which boggles my mind even now:

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Again, that’s nationwide, not California. WaPo has a short but smart piece out this afternoon suggesting various reasons for the drop — more policing (and smarter policing), less alcohol consumption, an economic rebound in the 1990s that persisted into the following decade, and most intriguingly, lower levels of lead in the air which may have led to healthier brain development for children born during the past 40 years. Crime is a complicated thing, as everyone understands. Except Barbara Boxer.

As for the gun homicide rate specifically, that’s dropped by nearly half since 1993 according to Pew’s data. Robert VerBruggen has a column well worth your time at NRO today detailing his state-by-state comparison of gun ownership rates and homicide rates. Logically, if the left is right that more guns in circulation necessarily means more violence, we should see more homicides in states where more people are armed. That’s not what we see, per VerBruggen. States are all over the statistical map. States where guns are more freely available do tend to see more suicides by shooting, but suicide typically doesn’t factor heavily into progressive rhetoric about gun-grabbing. It’s usually mass shootings they’re focused on, not the less sensational but far more prevalent problem of people successfully killing themselves because they had access to a gun instead of being forced into a less frequently lethal mode of suicide, like an intentional drug overdose. If Boxer wanted to make a point about reducing gun violence while avoiding the surreal spectacle of praising California’s laws not 24 hours after some degenerate went berserk in her state with at least two weapons that were legally purchased, she would have emphasized the threat of suicide, not homicide. Suicide can’t be as easily framed as a matter of crime and security, though, so we’re left having this stupid argument about whether ending the so-called gun-show loophole would thwart ISIS terrorists or whatever.

Barbara Boxer: Sensible gun control laws work, 'we've proven it in California'


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; allahpundit; banglist; barbaraboxer; california; control; farook; gun; guncontrol; gunlaws; hotair; jihad; laws; nationalreview; robertverbruggen; sanbernadino; sanbernardino; secondamendment; sensible; terrorism
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The rest of the title is California has proved that sensible gun laws work
1 posted on 12/03/2015 7:33:26 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

She’s been sniffing those Wooden Shoes again


2 posted on 12/03/2015 7:35:39 PM PST by butlerweave
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To: Kaslin

I guess her “senible” gun laws didn’t work out in San Bernardino.


3 posted on 12/03/2015 7:37:47 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Who is fact checking the state controlled, leftwing media's fact checkers?)
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To: Kaslin

She isn’t demanding more laws. Pat her on the head and say have a nice day,

And then look up the thread about the word nice.


4 posted on 12/03/2015 7:38:08 PM PST by ThomasThomas (I dream of a world where a chicken can cross the road with out having their motives questioned.)
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To: Kaslin

I’m sure Boxer’s well-working gun laws is a lot of comfort to the 14 people killed by the well-armed Muslim fanatics who chose not to obey them. < / sarcasm >


5 posted on 12/03/2015 7:40:08 PM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Kaslin

The same brain dead “brick” Boxer of the house bank scandal. This utter buffoon does not deserve the time of day and probably is never aware of it. The fools in California need not worry to vote for this jackass again— but where were they for the last 20 years voting for this fool? I can only guess fools like company.


6 posted on 12/03/2015 7:50:22 PM PST by Fungi
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To: Kaslin

I see a pattern. Yesterday Barry talked about reducing gun violence....and now this from her about how gun control has reduced gun violence in CA.

They are trying to bridge the logic gap between spree shooters and gun control. IE the ‘gunshow loophole’ has nothing to do with yesterday’s shooting, and people can see that.

So, their push is that the mere presence of a robust body of gun laws will reduce gun violence...even spree shootings...and it doesn’t matter that none of these shooters buy their guns at the gunshow.


7 posted on 12/03/2015 7:55:21 PM PST by lacrew
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To: Kaslin

Wel, it’s simple, of course, cant you see it? If we outlaw possession of firearms then there can’t be any more mass murders! Of course we need to outlaw pipe bombs, too. Hell, we can do that tomorrow and by next week bingo! no more shootings!


8 posted on 12/03/2015 8:05:03 PM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: lacrew

Barbie is not running again, therefore Barky calls her to jump on the jihadi suicide train with him, being the mensa that she is…Barbie jumps on with her NWO team shirt.


9 posted on 12/03/2015 8:06:13 PM PST by acapesket (all happy now?)
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To: ThomasThomas

I can’t fine old threads so I will post the older but better descriptive meaning for her.

Word History of NICE
The English word nice came from an Old French word with the same spelling that meant ‘foolish.’ This Old French word came in turn from a Latin word nescius that meant ‘ignorant.’ At first, English nice meant ‘foolish’ or ‘frivolous.’ Later it came to mean ‘finicky’ or ‘fussy.’ Not until the 1700s did nice come to mean ‘pleasing’ or ‘pleasant.’


10 posted on 12/03/2015 8:11:13 PM PST by ThomasThomas (I dream of a world where a chicken can cross the road with out having their motives questioned.)
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To: Fungi

Boxer is to sanity as Charles Manson is to good dinner etiquette.


11 posted on 12/03/2015 8:17:03 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Kaslin

Barbara Boxer is an idiot!


12 posted on 12/03/2015 8:34:37 PM PST by Taxman (H. L. Mencken correctly observed: Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man.)
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To: Kaslin
When guns are outlawed, only Muslims will own guns.

#KaffirLivesMatter

13 posted on 12/03/2015 8:46:06 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Kaslin

More guns, less crime.


14 posted on 12/03/2015 9:23:10 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
More guns, less crime.

Absolutely.

Put the graph in the article next to one showing the skyrocketing rates of gun ownership.

15 posted on 12/03/2015 9:29:33 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Kaslin

But three strikes and your out laws didn’t have anything to do with it? riiight.


16 posted on 12/03/2015 9:43:03 PM PST by RC one (....and subject to the jurisdiction thereof)
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To: ThomasThomas

Re: “The English word ‘nice’ came from an Old French word with the same spelling that meant ‘foolish.’”

Has anyone told the residents of Nice, France?


17 posted on 12/03/2015 10:30:22 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: EternalVigilance
Put the graph in the article next to one showing the skyrocketing rates of gun ownership.

Actually, the big bump at left of scale represents the peaking-out and decline of the murder epidemic of the "crack wars" from 1985-1995.

I doubt that it really correlated to anything else.

And the economic boom someone else referred to, was on hiatus from the moment Bush 41 signed the 'Rats' tax increase designed to break his faith with the electorate by falsifying his "read my lips" promise and take the White House away from him, until the stock market started its 1995-2000 bull run.

The period 1990-1004 was characterized by uncertainty, retrenchment, and worries. The year 1991-2 was fairly decent in the stock market, but unemployment stayed high and helped cost 41 the White House.

18 posted on 12/04/2015 12:51:57 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: RC one
But three strikes and your out laws didn’t have anything to do with it?

Obama, he gonna fix that. He goin' pay my gas bill, and he gonna let my cousins Leon and Willie out of jail.

19 posted on 12/04/2015 12:54:29 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: Kaslin; ntnychik; potlatch

20 posted on 12/04/2015 1:11:51 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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