Multiple Victims Reported in San Bernardino Shooting (Another Mass Shooting)

NBC Los Angeles ^ | 12/2/2015 | Willian Avila

[BradtotheBone]

Authorities are responding to a report of 20 victims in a shooting in San Bernardino on Wednesday.

The incident was reported in the 1300 block of S. Waterman Avenue (map), according to the San Bernardino Fire Department.

Story developing...

[WildHighlander57]

Dark Wing, good research & info; many thanks!

Lucyt,

Ping to dark wing’s post!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3367287/posts?page=2498#2498

[combat_boots]

Thanks, guys.

[WildHighlander57]

PA Engineer, thanks for the info!

Now we have three muzlim names...

Lucyt

Another one for the ThreatMatrix!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3367287/posts?page=2581#2581

[combat_boots]

Well, was the legal weapon used? By whom was it bought? Fast & Furious agents of 0bama?

[WildHighlander57]

From that FB page, an article by walid shoebat:

Jerome Silverman
3 hrs ·

San Bernardino Massacre Attacker Confirmed Muslim Fundamentalist Lone Wolf Who Went To A Muslim Radical Mosque And Was Impossible To Detect
By Walid Shoebat

Multiple sources from multiple agencies identified one of the three attackers at the San Bernardino Massacre as Syed Farook. But weeding truth from fiction, Syed as it appears is a Muslim fundamentalist who linked to a fundamentalist mosque in Corona California.

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Farook’s father said he hasn’t seen his son in some time. “He was very religious. He would go to work, come back, go to pray, come back. He’s Muslim.”

Some on the social media created confusion naming wrong people involved. Some named Kinda Atallah as an accomplice who was killed in the police shooting where both suspects are dead. But as it turns out, Kinda Atallah is Christian by a simple examination of her relatives Ilham Attalh and Samiha Atallah. The real reported suspect was Tashfeen Malik, 27 years old who is doubtful to be U.S. citizen and has no record in the U.S.

But the terrorist (Syed) Facebook which has been scrubbed and we spotted the mosque attended: Islamic Society of Corona-Norco. The mosque linked from Syed’s Facebook had a peaceful-mission (so they say):

to assist Muslims in America to preserve their religious heritage and customs and to create a sense of community amongst the followers of Islam. ISCN members shall contribute peacefully and democratically to the diversity and pluralism of the American society.

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The type of mosque he most-likely attended calls to ending tax money to Israel, how to raise the generation of Saladin (Jihad) and making aware of the plight of Muslims in Syria. While the titles are obvious, the access is not allowed. To see the center below, it would make an American apple-pie wonder, this is not Saudi Arabia, Qatar or Bahrain, no its Corona California:

Syed was not likely part of an international incident but the jihadists really don’t have to be connected to ISIS. ATF agents found a pipe bomb on one of the suspects. This is in line with the fingerprint of terror.

It appears as though the FBI is holding off on telling the American people that this is terror. The FBI were on the scene very early taking control of the investigation and they stated that they wouldn’t rule out terrorism. ISIS extremists began celebrating the mass shooting in San Bernardino hours after the massacre, creating the hashtag ‪#‎America_Burning‬ as police.

The other suspect is a foreigner allegedly from Qatar by the so-called name Tayeep Bin Ardogan. This is likely using a wrong I.D. or is a terrorist who has a fascination with Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey and chose that alias. The reason it is impossible that the man is Qatari is that the letter “p” does not exist in any Arabic name, plus there is no Ardogan/Erdogan last name in any Arab society. In the Arab world it is Rajab and Tayyib. This is most likely a terrorist from abroad whom only time will tell his real identity.

All the reports in Fox News, the Atlanta Journal Constitution, The Los Angeles Times, Mediaite and elsewhere are in error in naming a 28-year-old Qatari citizen by the name of Tayyeep bin Ardogan, as the second suspect.

The error started when Rick Serrano, a Los Angeles Times reporter who had tweeted the name, later deleted his tweet and said it appeared to be a hoax.

While some obtained the name Syed Farook correctly, it is crucial to be careful and not jump the gun. At times we all do that.

What will soon be realized soon in the West, is that so far, the largest security services in the world, led by the US and British intelligence services even the Russian have difficulty thwarting the Lone Wolf terrorist method and ISIS now is heavily promoting this agenda on social media.

A lone wolf is not only a very ordinary person living in the community as a member, they also behave like them in that they do not have any unusual activity or act suspicious. They are encouraged to cover up any sign of religious affiliation and are encouraged not pray or become a member in a mosque or keep a low-profile in the mosque. They do not belong to any form of criminal or neurotic gang. They are away from the eyes of observers as being a member of a terrorist organization. These are perfect for ISIS.

Any pre-emptive strikes carried out by the security apparatus is useless in preventing these terrorist attacks, because pre-emptive strikes are usually with groups or formations who are usually caught in the course of planning, preparation, and before implementation, which the act fails before it happens.
But this is not the case with a lone wolf and that alone is everything he is. He plans and attends and performs without dispensing any information. Even the people closest to him, as his wife or his father or his mother are not made aware of his plans. He keeps everything in his mind as part of the plan until such time when the bomb is to explode.

Muslim terrorists have the ability to “go dark”. U.S. intelligence agencies are finding it increasingly difficult to track communication among the terrorist organization’s members. Many officials have blamed the group’s adoption of sophisticated encryption software, such as the web browser Tor or the messaging app Telegram, for the inability to identify potential threats. Security now has a tougher job, to avoid being monitored, they’ve shifted to encrypted chatting platforms becoming increasingly careful to secure their communications. A member’s ability to encrypt is an important factor in how the organization values him or her as an operative. As a result, members are learning different tools faster, creating a much bigger problem for intelligence agencies trying to track their communications. Then you have group chats on Telegram that are specifically dedicated to propaganda can have up to 16,000 members, and are growing by the thousands every day.

And for Americans who might think that technology is their specialty, that this would not be a tough nut to crack, think again. An FBI agent monitoring a Telegram group (which has tens of thousands) requires each agent to participate in a series of discussions intended to vet your beliefs in order to be fully accepted. In other words, in the U.S. terrorism task forces that moved from drug busting into terror busting now must be like myself and know Islam inside out.

And its not only knowing Islam, they must know how to conduct such discussion in Arabic and know about various religious edicts to terrorist incidents to specific battles.

This requires a ton of Arabic speaking Islamophobes like myself. And the way U.S. government officials treat us when the media appears at our speaking events, they duck for cover, condemn us and support CAIR instead. Many of us quit being their sand-niggers. Here is our last event:

“The New Jersey Attorney General’s office will issue new guidelines to state police in the wake of outrage over a $6000 speaking fee paid to fake former Palestinian terrorist Walid Shoebat, who recently addressed a police academy.”

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The only problem with this story is that someone is lying. Above is what I got paid which covered the flight and lodging. I got $0 dollars to serve the police. They can never produce such a check of $6000 since I never even asked for a fee. The funds were raised to support COPS and all that can be confirmed from COPS above. That plus no one has an official statement from any government official be it in Israel or the U.S. to any evidence that I am a “fraud”.

First of all, my bombing in Manger Square in Bethlehem can be viewed from the United Nations own records:

A:33:356 of 13 November 1978 (search for “Manger Square” where Jesus was born. I threw a bomb on the bank next door)

Secondly, I must have we been so good to infiltrate the FBI? The government disclosed a secure secret event and broke protocol which they were never to state anything that was told in the lecture. We never asked for more media publicity and its a win for us and a loss for national security.

The west has gone mad where they trust more their enemies instead of their friends. There is no way to prevent such attacks except the mass exodus of all Muslims. We have seen this already. This will increase to the point that eventually, “the land of the cross” will have to expel everyone who upholds the crescent.
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[Smokin' Joe]

Good question. They didn't say. It could have been most anything by some Federal Standards, and if you count the TSA, grannie's needlepoint scissors.

A knife could be considered legal and a weapon. When they are vague, though, it is hard to tell if it is intentional or incompetence any more.

[combat_boots]

See @womenfortrump

Women 4 Trump ‏@Women4Trump
Father of shooting suspect:
“He was very religious. He would go to work, come back, go to pray. He’s Muslim.”

http://fw.to/Oj24dcS

https://twitter.com/Women4Trump

[WildHighlander57]

Sarah barracuda, thouworm,

Many thanks for the info!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3367287/posts?page=2627#2627

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3367287/posts?page=2629#2629

[combat_boots]

Hi, Westy. Yeah, it’s me.

Whenever you see a published news story, especially from any mainstream media news source, make sure you archive its contents so that when they scrub things in the future, the facts won’t go down the memory hole.

I respect the FReepers as intrepid researchers and this is an important toolset to keep in your arsenal.

First, enter the URL of a news story in the website archive.is

For example, the URL of this page goes in the “My url is alive” box. Then all you have to do is press the button and you get an archived copy, as well as a screenshot and even zip version that will be immune to takey backsies of little factoids that are inconvenient to the narrative. The url that immediately comes up in the browser window after you press the button is the url for your new archive –in this case, https: //archive.is/wgmZz. Sometimes the page will redirect, sometimes it will stay “loading” for a while but that URL is all you need so you don’t have to wait for it to finish. Now you have a nice third-party backup of your info.

A great next step is to also submit it to the Internet Archive at archive. org.

You can try searching all the archived versions of a page as well on both of these sites. They might have the version of the page that got scrubbed. Also check G00gle Cache as a last resort.

[combat_boots]

Farook had visited S Arabia and had left his baby there with family.

Did he arrange for weapons and materiel transport there, too?

[WildHighlander57]

Thanks, thouworm for the info!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3367287/posts?page=2762#2762

JTTF on it now...

Ping

[combat_boots]

Not formally married ( common law wife)

Female’s name; Tashfeen Maliek

[WildHighlander57]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3367287/posts?page=2780#2780

So the FB lady wasn’t involved?

[WildHighlander57]

Kinda Atallah may not be correct. Scoebat article has correct name.

[Daffynition]

Here's a becoming photo of Tashie...

[WildHighlander57]

Libs will push for more freedoms being taken away.

[Carriage Hill]

Just getting back up at 7:30. I didn’t make it to 1am, and missed the presser.

[Carriage Hill]

“Tayyeep Bin Ardogan, Syed Farook, Kinda Atallah”

Those names sort of look like ‘spoof names’, like the oriental names in the SF airliner crash - Ho Lee Fuk, Wi To Lo etc...

Any of them accurate?

[GOPJ]

Sarge, did you notice all the calls for ‘gun control’ this morning?

Same folks who want to bring in boatloads of Syrian men ALSO want to take guns away from American citizens...

[GOPJ]

...and only seen them in the Middle East and in a serious gun collection. Never seen a 5.45 x 39mm round up close, and I’ve been around the block a bit. They could be finding a niche with an American criminal element, but I suspect foreign terrorists based purely on their choice of weapon.

Good catch.