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Allan Tweddle: Gun control versus car control
wvgazettemail.com ^ | 11/29/2015 | Allan Tweddle

Posted on 11/29/2015 9:40:42 AM PST by rktman

The Second Amendment was written when only single-shot muskets and pistols were available, and they were far more critical in hunting for food than any hunting weapon is today.

In 1776, the young nation’s leaders could not afford a standing army, so adopted the Swiss model of requiring certain citizens to be armed to maintain a ready and standby militia, and have the weapons of the day in their possession to enable that militia to assemble quickly if there was an external or internal threat. Hence, that’s what the American Founding Fathers clearly intended the Second Amendment to support.

Today, the Swiss have, quite a while back, called all those modern war weapons into a secure armory. But we Americans have not followed the original model used for the Second Amendment, and as Michael Shermer wrote in his op-ed (“Shooting data and firearm fantasies,” Oct. 11), we have allowed the NRA in particular, and a few “gun nuts”, to totally distort the amendment to their own commercial ends as an irrational lobbying organization for gun manufacturers.

We are the ONLY nation with such pervasive unregulated gun ownership, and have the highest murder and gun crime rates of any other country by far, more than all the deaths of Americans in all the wars, and multiple times the rates of other civilized nations.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol
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To: Kickass Conservative
"You can own an Unregistered Car and drive it all you want on Private Property without having a License. You are only required to be Licensed and driving a Registered Car on Public Roads. "

One could make a very strong argument that even requiring a license for driving on public roads is unconstitutional. I can remember calling BS even back in grade school when they used to teach this nonsense "driving is a privilege". That's total nonsense. In my opinion this simple little concept of "privilege to drive" is when the socialist indoctrination started. Many and I would say in fact most people today actually believe this is true and reasonable.

Driving is no more a privilege than walking on your own two feet. It is liberty and it's an absolute right.

21 posted on 11/29/2015 10:16:19 AM PST by precisionshootist
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To: rktman

” and have the highest murder and gun crime rates of any other country by far,”

This is an out and out lie. Bill Whittle has an excellent video that covers the subject of which countries have the highest gun violence. While we do have the highest per capita gun ownership (90 guns per 100 people), we are 112th out of 218 countries of the world in terms of gun-related deaths. We would be a lot farther up this list if it weren’t for the RAT-run cities like Chicago, etc.

I will try and find the link and post it.


22 posted on 11/29/2015 10:17:59 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Americans don’t have privileges other than being American. Drivers are licensed and insured for the protection of others. Riding a horse in the old days was not a privilege and neither is driving a car. Horses were a necessary part of life, necessary for commerce and travel, as is a car or truck. The government doesn’t grant us anything.


23 posted on 11/29/2015 10:18:54 AM PST by strings6459
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To: precisionshootist

I agree with you 100%.


24 posted on 11/29/2015 10:22:50 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: rktman

Twaddle tweedle! Your “facts” are nothing but lies! The US gun death RATE is far lower thata vast number of other countries. I may be wrong on this fact but I believe that we are not even in the top ten for gun death rates.
You’re entitled to you own oninion but you are not entitled to your own facts!


25 posted on 11/29/2015 10:23:48 AM PST by mistfree (It's a very uncreative man who can't think of more than one way to spell a word.)
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To: rktman

Bill Whittle: “Number One with a Bullet”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE

Well worth your time to view!


26 posted on 11/29/2015 10:26:47 AM PST by vette6387
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To: rktman
We are the ONLY nation with such pervasive unregulated gun ownership, and have the highest murder and gun crime rates of any other country by far,

Absolute Tweddle Twaddle!, I had no need to read any further than that to know that this piece would be nothing but regurgitated BOLSHEVIK!

27 posted on 11/29/2015 10:30:04 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: rktman

Well if the Founders intended the Swiss model, let’s start issuing automatic weapons to the citizenry and having everyone turn up for range-time and small-group tactics drills.


28 posted on 11/29/2015 10:32:57 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: rktman

Nothing at all said about guns, rifles, or muskets. Keep and bear arms means all types of arms, including crew served weapons (cannon, mortars, etc) and armed navel vessels.

There was a time our country counted on privately owned armed ships to protect our coast.

It is crystal clear the right has NOTHING to do with hunting.


29 posted on 11/29/2015 10:33:51 AM PST by wrench
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To: moovova
I notice Allen’s article does not have a comment section. Brave fellow.

Actually, it does. Whoever posted the article just posted a copy, not the actual website. Look at the top of the posted link. There is a URL for the site. Cut and paste that to your browser. The author is getting taken to task in the comments.
30 posted on 11/29/2015 10:35:18 AM PST by rickomatic
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To: rickomatic

Thank you.


31 posted on 11/29/2015 10:38:48 AM PST by moovova
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To: Kickass Conservative

Its bs anyway as your never had to register and license horses to be on public roads.


32 posted on 11/29/2015 10:41:15 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: DesertRhino

The only criticism would be they really dont give them enough ammo for the guns.


33 posted on 11/29/2015 10:42:24 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: precisionshootist

Yes. It carries over into freedom of association, the ight to liberty, proprty, being able to work and provide for yourself and family.


34 posted on 11/29/2015 10:44:29 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: mistfree

Gun grabbers like to tout the stat that “the United States is currently 3rd in murders throughout the world”...

However...If Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC and New Orleans murders are eliminated from the stats, the United States is now ranked 4th from the bottom for murders with guns.

Those 4 cities have some of the toughest gun control laws in the United States. All 4 cities have been controlled by Democrats for generations.

Might there be some connection?


35 posted on 11/29/2015 10:47:40 AM PST by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

When I was a Kid we had to Register our Bikes with the Sheriff’s Department, just in case they were stolen. LOL

Of course there was a $3 Fee...


36 posted on 11/29/2015 10:48:04 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: rktman

Yes. The nature of arme has changed as has the nature of h;unting. However, the 2nd Amendment has NOT changed.


37 posted on 11/29/2015 10:49:13 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: rktman

Can I privately sell my car to someone out of my driveway without doing a background check to determine they’re not a felon? Does the government even care that a felon has a car, even if they were convicted of vehicular manslaughter or transporting illicit items across state lines?

If the felon uses the car I sold him to transport drugs or dead hookers in the trunk, am I criminally liable? Or does having a wad of cash in my pocket from the felon I sold it to indemnify me as ‘not the owner’ anymore just because I scribbled something on a pink slip? If someone steals my car, I’m not exactly legally required to report it to the police right?

Can I switch license plates around, thereby removing the serial number from my car? If I drive it down the street like that, I’d only just get a ticket right? It’s not as if some SWAT team from the Federal Department of Transportation is going to come kill me for that, is there? And they don’t care that I sold that unmarked white van to a felon, right? Just like the kind that he was driving when he was trying to abduct children on his last hitch in prison, you know.

Sure, let’s go down the ‘Register guns just like we do for cars’ argument path. I welcome the challenge.


38 posted on 11/29/2015 10:49:41 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Driving a car is not specifically referenced in the Constitution, neither is driving a horsedrawn wagon. Howeverrights not specifically referenced are reserved for the States and the People.


39 posted on 11/29/2015 10:51:08 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: wrench

The first gun-control Liberal [from Scotland] accidently shot and killed himself with his own pistol in 1845 in NY mountains [Adirondacks].

In the 19th century it was commonplace to see men walking down the street with loaded rifles and nobody cared except a gun-control Liberal foreigner. {Whom does that remind you of?]

viz:
“It is singular to observe how often men fall victims to that which they most dread and most guard against. Mr. Henderson was nervously afraid of firearms so much so that he could not see a man passing along the street with a gun on his shoulder without going out to inquire if it was loaded.” [1845]
p18. “Letters from the backwoods and the Adirondac” [sic]
By Joel Tyler Headley, pub. J.S. Taylor, 1850


40 posted on 11/29/2015 10:54:24 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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