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Colorado shooter politically motivated, said ‘no more baby parts’ after attacking PP
Washington Post ^ | 11/28/15 | Peter Holley, Sandhya Somashekhar, Lindsey Bever and Wesley Lowery

Posted on 11/28/2015 5:35:48 PM PST by Timpanagos1

The gunman suspected of storming a Planned Parenthood clinic and killing a police officer and two others told the officers who arrested him “no more baby parts,’’ after being taken into custody, according to a law enforcement official.

The attack on the clinic was “definitely politically motivated,’’ the official — who has been briefed on the investigation and spoke on condition of anonymity because it is still unfolding — told The Washington Post. NBC News, which first reported the comment attributed to suspect Robert Lewis Dear, said Dear also mentioned President Obama in a range of statements to investigators that left unclear his precise motivation in targeting the clinic.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Colorado; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: abortion; colorado; deathpanels; demagogicparty; districtofcolumbia; lindseybever; memebuilding; obamacare; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; peterholley; plannedparenthood; robertdear; sandhyasomashekhar; stemexpress; transgender; washingtoncompost; washingtonpost; wesleylowery; zerocare
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To: cynwoody
Then that makes PP liars.

Suspect in Shooting at Colorado Planned Parenthood Identified as Robert Dear, No Motive Known

Meanwhile, Planned Parenthood officials have confirmed none of the people killed in the shooting or 9 victims who were injured were Planned Parenthood abortion clinic staff or patients and authorities have released no motive for the shooter as to whether or not he actually targeted Planned Parenthood.

181 posted on 11/29/2015 1:32:50 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: cynwoody

Wonder if they were shot by LEO’s and not Dear..............

182 posted on 11/29/2015 1:39:24 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Jack Straw from Wichita

Your leftist kneepads are cutting off the blood to your pea brain. Stop trying to push the leftist meme at FR, dfweeb. And yes you can call that ad hom attack, but in reality it is just pulling your leftist covers off, sweetie.

183 posted on 11/29/2015 2:41:45 PM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Aaron Gardner - Colorado Police cannot confirm "baby part" quote from Dear

I get what you are saying and I mistrust the MSM as much as anyone, however, "cannot confirm" does not mean a hill of beans - it is neither a denial nor a confirmation.

Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood Shooting Police Response,

OK. I listened to the entire thing. When they go to "Code 3" the dispatcher says calls coming in are saying shooter is in the parking lot. Around 2:08 dispatcher says one party is hiding in the bathroom (can't determine where) then shortly later the dispatcher says "they were in front of the PP when the call first came in....something about male by a white van and another call adjacent that also has all its doors open...then about the person being shot inside Elite Vision...dispatcher mentions PP. at around the 6:32 mark cop says he just got shot and shooter is behind PP. Then at around the 7:03 mark officer says "stop shooting...he's shooting at you as you're coming in...cop says he's been shot...PP ......officer down....he's behind his vehicle (not sure of that was the shooter or the cop who was shot), NW corner of the PP building ...lots more....shooter was shooting from the SW corner of the PP when last around 28:40 officer asks do we have contact with anyone inside PP - are we sure he's not inside?...then another officer says I've been shot...(yelling) where is the shooter right now? Where is shooting from, where is he at? Fire coming out of the PP....

There is no mention of the bank except for one part of the broadcastify audio where an officer asks for the shooter's location relative to his as he was at the corner of the bank building, no mention of a bank robbery or the shooter having ever been inside the bank.

The audio neither proves that the PP was not the shooter's ultimate target nor does it disprove it. I read one report that Dear while in the parking lot, was shooting a propane tanks he brought with him, trying cause an explosion, probably shooting wildly which may be why some like the person inside the Elite Vision were shot. So who knows if he was targeting PP or just randomly trying to cause mayhem, death and destruction because he was a mental case?

But with that being said, I think that PP and the liberal gun grabbers including in the White Hut and the MSM will paint it as it was anyway - "Let no good crisis go to waste". But on the other hand I dislike when we conservatives also jump to conclusions and repeat falsehoods (like he was a tranny) and rumors and wild conspiracy theories about "False Flags" and such. It does more harm than good IMO.

I like facts and do what I can to vette sources of information and accuracy whether it comes from the LameStreamMedia, Conservative Media, Bloggers, or my FRiends and am willing to wait a bit for more information to come out before forming an absolute opinion or saying I'm sure of what happened and why.

184 posted on 11/29/2015 3:20:11 PM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA
Witness accounts conflict with 'Planned Parenthood shooting' narrative
185 posted on 11/29/2015 3:23:29 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: smokingfrog

Unlikely that he shot any pro-lifers.
There would definitely be a statement issued about that from our side.

What I’m seeing on the other thread, though, combined with an examination of the street view, pretty much nails it.
The police scanner plus eyewitness statements, revealed the shooting started at or near the bank, NOT at or inside PP.
There’s almost nothing to suggest the guy’s motive was to shoot up an abortion clinic.
If he wanted to save little babies, why target pregnant women, huh?
Dead cop by the bank means something had to be happening at bank which caused someone there to call cops—who then came to the bank, where one was shot dead. Witnessed by Supercuts employee; she saw him go down BEFORE anything happening at PP.
Another person was shot at ELITE VISION eye clinic. Location? Unclear.
Wild-haired guy driving a car in a PARKING LOT (which? Bank, sooper store, or PP? Unclear) makes eye contact with shooter, and is wounded.
Black guy on cell phone (calling cops?) OUTSIDE PP is shot dead.

All this happens, apparently, before shooter ever goes inside PP.

Much fuzzy reporting—shooter has “items” in bags or duffel which he takes inside or leaves outside of PP.
Some reports say propane tanks. Did he run across the field with these?
Were these in his car? Where was shooter’s car parked? Did he travel from bank to PP on foot? Or did he jump into his car?
One female shot dead inside (?) PP.

1 dead cop at bank
1 patient wounded at Elite Vision
1 wild hair guy wounded in parking lot
1 dead black guy in front of PP
1 dead woman in PP
5 accounted for, out of 12 total reported victims
So that leaves 7 victims unaccounted for...Where were these shot? Were these 7 victims wounded inside PP?
We know that no PP staff were injured.
So were the 7 unaccounted-for wounded people, PP patients or their friends?
What were we told on Friday??
1dead cop, 2dead civilians
+ 9 wounded, OF WHICH 5 ARE COPS!!!

So 5 wounded cops (not PP targets, cops!)
+ 2 misc wounded ( prior to entering PP)
+ 3 dead (1 cop prior to entering PP)
10 shot accounted for, of which ONLY 2 ARE TIED TO PP, and these were not targeted by the shooter; they apparently got in his way during a situation that was already out of control.

2 additional wounded, no information at all as to where they were shot. Why? If they were shot inside PP, wouldn’t media be trumpeting that, to boost the narrative? If shot elsewhere, that further erodes the narrative, and is motive enough for MSM to suppress the information.

Gotta sleep.

186 posted on 11/29/2015 9:23:19 PM PST by mumblypeg (I've seen the future; brother it is murder. -L. Cohen)
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To: mumblypeg

It looks like Elite Vision is in the larger building to the east of PP @ 3470 Centennial.

187 posted on 11/29/2015 10:25:40 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: BlackElk
Did he know what he was doing and that it was wrongful behavior? I have forgotten the more formal expression of that rule.

Do you mean M'Naghten rules?
188 posted on 12/07/2015 11:35:37 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Dr. Sivana


189 posted on 12/07/2015 9:15:09 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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