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What is a Just War?
Virtue Online ^ | November 19, 2015 | Fr. John Lathrop

Posted on 11/21/2015 2:44:25 PM PST by lqcincinnatus

adical Islam (al-Qaeda, ISIS, or whatever name it goes by) has not only declared war but has waged war against United States, Western civilization and all Christians since September 11, 2001. This is more than terrorism, it is war, as witnessed by the recent attacks in Paris, the downing of the Russian airliner, the beheading of captives and the brutal war being waged by ISIS in Syria and Iraq. It is time for Congress to declare war against ISIS and all other radical Islamic groups. It is time for United States, its allies, and willing partners to use our considerable military power to destroy ISIS and all radical Islamic groups wherever they be in the world.

Is this a proper Christian response? Absolutely! St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas, and other Christian theologians over the past sixteen hundred years have developed a well thought out rationale for a Just War. This meets all the requirements of a Just War.

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To: HiTech RedNeck

And you post crap you can’t back up.

L


21 posted on 11/21/2015 5:19:02 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Are you interested in hearing it backed up from Scripture?


22 posted on 11/21/2015 5:58:27 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’m interested in you naming a time God reached down and miracled something anytime in the last thousand years.

L


23 posted on 11/21/2015 5:59:29 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Start with every birth? Every salvation too?


24 posted on 11/21/2015 6:00:28 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Lurker

You think God is something for yesteryear, and now it’s all our puppy. Well, God will permit us to treat it as our puppy if we insist, but He guarantees failure as a result. Your proposed counter jihad is going up against the gates of hell. God said something 2000 years about that and it hasn’t been rescinded.


25 posted on 11/21/2015 6:02:02 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Lurker

I.e. the devil can “miracle” too. Spurn and mock and flout God, and He will be happy to let the devil be the only “miracleing” power in the picture.

None of this has been made up by me. All of this is backed up in Scripture.


26 posted on 11/21/2015 6:03:34 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: lqcincinnatus

Just whatever I decree it is...


27 posted on 11/21/2015 6:19:25 PM PST by Vendome (they arDon't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: null and void

Aren’t you an aficionado of the Jewish side of things?

I think a lot of your countrymen would take umbrage at “God doesn’t do any miracles for us.” And I’m just going as far back as the founding of Eretz Yisroel.


28 posted on 11/21/2015 9:17:52 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’m an agnostic.


29 posted on 11/21/2015 9:23:45 PM PST by null and void (We are AmeriCANs. We CAN learn, and learn from history, if we choose.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

So, what direct intervention has He done in the last 1000 years?

I note you dodged that question again.


30 posted on 11/21/2015 9:24:55 PM PST by null and void (We are AmeriCANs. We CAN learn, and learn from history, if we choose.)
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To: null and void

How about that missile He had blow into the ocean. How about the unexpected victory of the Yom Kippur War.

Good grief, no wonder God doesn’t want to do miracles for you. You’d be pooh-poohing it at once.


31 posted on 11/21/2015 9:26:23 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: null and void

How about AmeriCANs who CAN learn from the best history of all, the bible?


32 posted on 11/21/2015 9:28:09 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’ve been known to read, and frequently quote, that book.

People have been mistaking me for a Christian since high school.


33 posted on 11/21/2015 9:35:33 PM PST by null and void (We are AmeriCANs. We CAN learn, and learn from history, if we choose.)
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To: null and void

Fine and dandy. Do you regard this Bible as a collection of well accepted memes? That is, well accepted among men, among which you in turn have your business and can impress and get flattery, etc.? Or do you regard this Bible as something that is about Someone profound and transcendent that you can actually meet?

Jesus himself tied miracle presentation to miracle acceptance. He ain’t there to be anyone’s stage magician. He’s there to step up to be a Savior, if embraced forever in that role, not treated as a hireling.


34 posted on 11/21/2015 10:06:49 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: null and void

I.e. don’t expect God to save your hiney if you have no intent on His saving your soul... and if miracles from God have seemed scarce (I’m allowing a form of the premise) while evil has gotten more rampant, and the appearance of Islam on the scene seems to bespeak the latter, it may have reflected a drastic dwindling in faith. The synagogue and church both got institutionalized. God became something important to talk about, not so important to embrace in love. Luther’s move out of the Roman Catholic church seems to look like a desperation move in this light. Gimme God like I need air! And he was hardly a well behaved person, but he knew Who buttered his bread.


35 posted on 11/21/2015 10:15:25 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Do you regard this Bible as a collection of well accepted memes?

Not quite, I regard it more as an excellent study of the human condition, a guide to understanding myself and my fellows, and a road map to a rather disturbing future.

That is, well accepted among men, among which you in turn have your business and can impress and get flattery, etc.?

Knowing it is essential to understanding and living in a Bible based culture, doesn't help quite as much with the younger set.

Or do you regard this Bible as something that is about Someone profound and transcendent that you can actually meet?

I'm an agnostic, I simply don't know this Someone any more than a blind man knows purple.

36 posted on 11/22/2015 7:44:44 AM PST by null and void (We are AmeriCANs. We CAN learn, and learn from history, if we choose.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I.e. don't expect God to save your hiney if you have no intent on His saving your soul...

As an agnostic, how could I even do that???

and if miracles from God have seemed scarce (I'm allowing a form of the premise) while evil has gotten more rampant, and the appearance of Islam on the scene seems to bespeak the latter, it may have reflected a drastic dwindling in faith. The synagogue and church both got institutionalized. God became something important to talk about, not so important to embrace in love.

Love? Did you mean fear?

Luther's move out of the Roman Catholic church seems to look like a desperation move in this light. Gimme God like I need air! And he was hardly a well behaved person, but he knew Who buttered his bread.

True that. I wonder if his Bread Butterer actual existed.

And he was hardly a well behaved person

Well behaved persons don't change the status quo...

37 posted on 11/22/2015 7:50:41 AM PST by null and void (We are AmeriCANs. We CAN learn, and learn from history, if we choose.)
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