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Words matter in ‘ISIS’ war, so use ‘Daesh’
The Boston Glob ^ | OCTOBER 09, 2014 | Zeba Khan

Posted on 11/17/2015 7:09:55 PM PST by TBP

French officials recently declared that that country would stop using any of those names and instead refer to the group as “Daesh.”

Whether referred to as ISIS, ISIL, or IS, all three names reflect aspirations that the United States and its allies unequivocally reject. Political and religious leaders all over the world have noted this. French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said, “This is a terrorist group and not a state. . . the term Islamic State blurs the lines between Islam, Muslims, and Islamists.”

The term “Daesh” is strategically a better choice because it is still accurate in that it spells out the acronym of the group’s full Arabic name, al-Dawla al-Islamiya fi al-Iraq wa al-Sham. Yet, at the same time, “Daesh” can also be understood as a play on words — and an insult. Depending on how it is conjugated in Arabic, it can mean anything from “to trample down and crush” to “a bigot who imposes his view on others.” Already, the group has reportedly threatened to cut out the tongues of anyone who uses the term.

Why do they care so much? The same reason the United States should. Language matters.

(Excerpt) Read more at bostonglobe.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: daesh; daeshbags; insult; isis; koranimals; terrorist
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To: TBP

I think someone wants us to stop saying it @is@ about Islam. So I will stick to ISIS.. ISIL.


61 posted on 11/18/2015 2:18:47 AM PST by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: TBP

Daesh bump


62 posted on 11/18/2015 4:27:20 AM PST by CPT Clay (Hillary: Julius and Ethal Rosenberg were electrocuted for selling classified info.)
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To: CodeToad
In impolite company I call them "Sand N****rs".


63 posted on 11/18/2015 4:52:03 AM PST by Old Sarge
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To: TBP

there....we won...we changed their name, next crisis/sarc


64 posted on 11/18/2015 5:02:24 AM PST by dila813
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The acronym is favoured by mainstream Muslims, who say the term "Islamic State" gives a religious dignity to what is simply a terrorist sect.

The radical Muslim wants to behead you. The mainstream Muslim is waiting for the radical Muslim to behead you.

The operative word is "Muslim" - and as a free, independent Western woman, they want you dead.

See how this works?

65 posted on 11/18/2015 5:07:57 AM PST by Old Sarge
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To: Old Sarge

I do.


66 posted on 11/18/2015 5:08:38 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Not sure either of these translations would be taken as an insult. it can mean anything from to trample down and crush to bigot who imposes his view on others. Trample down and crush, impose his view, that's what they do in the name of their faith. They might not like bigot, they'd replace it with faithful. I think the word is appropriate since it makes it clear their territorial objective is greater than Iraq and Syria, or greater Syria, or the "Levant" as Obama and Kerry prefer.

67 posted on 11/18/2015 5:16:25 AM PST by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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To: LeoWindhorse

“Kill um all and let Satan sort them out”

End of story.


68 posted on 11/18/2015 7:38:55 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read)
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To: lentulusgracchus

We still need a fresh name, to reflect Obama’s membership. Since he was _Resident of the United States already when they formed up, that makes him a charter member.”

I LIKE IT!! Something that captures BO’s responsibility and the French angle...

How about “d’Ouche!”


69 posted on 11/18/2015 9:27:40 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: TBP

I just call them “goat****ers.” I hope they’re not offended.


70 posted on 11/18/2015 3:27:59 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (My music: http://hopalongginsberg.com/ | Facebook: Hopalong Ginsberg | Instagram: hopalonginsberg)
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To: TBP

Can we save the argument over what to put in the obit until they’re dead, and get back to killing them?


71 posted on 11/18/2015 3:31:04 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: TBP

the term Islamic State blurs the lines between Islam, Muslims, and Islamists.

There’s a line?
Could of fooled me.


72 posted on 11/18/2015 3:34:16 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: TBP

I call them ‘Sand “Ns”’ or ‘rag heads’. Though not so much the later, anymore, as I respect my Sikh friends


73 posted on 11/19/2015 4:12:54 AM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. O)
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