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He really got their goat - this is one of the whines that Rubio spawned.

This is the sort of "philosophy" being subsidized by the taxpayers - one completely soaked in envirnomentalism and class warfare.

Welders do productive work and I'm sure that with a shortage of welders overtime pays very well - these "educator-philosphers" demand tenure.

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Oh and there's this from NPR:

Amid A Shortage Of Welders, Some Prisons Offer Training

"America needs more welders - and soon. Baby boomers with the skill are retiring and not enough young people are replacing them.

In the '80s, when Flashdance brought us Alex the welding woman who really wanted to be a ballet dancer, America had well over half a million welders. Welding was hot. Today, there are about 40 percent fewer welders.

The American Welding Society estimates there will be a shortage of nearly 300,000 welding-related positions by 2020.

Jeremy Worley, who teaches welding at a technical college in north Georgia, says the demand for welders is at a level that is growing "quicker than we can get them out."

So Worley will teach welding to anyone at any age, anywhere, including inside Walker State Prison. As part of its ongoing prison reform, Georgia decided to give inmates access to heavy tools and blowtorches so they can get a welding certificate...."

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Maybe the "philosopher-educators" are responsible for prisons bulging at the seams - they sure are nurturing and importing antisocial elements at Missouri University.

I say the positive contribution of welders is much more than "philosophers" like Avery Kolers and that we need to rethink what is being pushed on society at these institutions.

1 posted on 11/12/2015 12:23:37 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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[Article] We need some philosophers to scrutinize that religion's dogmas, and we need some welders to help dismantle its gaudy temples.



Well, doc, if you're already in demolition mode, guess we don't need the philosophers after all, right?

Love those liberals .... so cocksure .... so .... so .... right.

Actuallly, doc, your premise about what market economies are supposed to do looks a little bit unexamined. You might want to rethink that one.

And oh, by the way, free-market capitalism isn't a religion. That title belongs to your liberalism.

2 posted on 11/12/2015 12:38:43 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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Last night, as I listened to the Republican debate, I was surprised to hear my own profession called out by name. I am a professor of philosophy.

"OH, A BS ARTIST!"


3 posted on 11/12/2015 12:51:20 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The goal of Socialism is Communism. Marx and Lenin were in agreement on this.)
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Whatever my issues with Rubio, this was a fine moment on his part in the debate.


4 posted on 11/12/2015 12:55:13 AM PST by BigEdLB (Congress will have blood on their hands if anything happens because of the Iran appeasement)
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As I read this ignorant and sophomoric screed, I was struck again by how academic types are almost universally oblivious to the unintended irony in what they write.

Here we are provided a clear and unambiguous example of why welders are held in higher regard, both economically and personally, than “philosophers,” most of whom are undeserving of the name, since they love neither knowledge nor the life of the mind. Most are simply infatuated with the gaseous bubbling of their own thoughts.


5 posted on 11/12/2015 12:59:21 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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The day I hear Republicans talk about making polluters pay is the day I'll begin to believe that they care about genuinely free markets.
Just when you thought you had the free market thing all figured out... "Making" people pay is not a "genuine" free market.
6 posted on 11/12/2015 1:07:54 AM PST by lewislynn ( Ted Cruz will never be elected President)
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I got slimed by Marco Rubio
No, you were slime way before that.
8 posted on 11/12/2015 1:09:49 AM PST by lewislynn ( Ted Cruz will never be elected President)
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It is patently obvious that this "philosopher", (And I'm using the term like she is, as a shield against the truth that she is a stupid, useless moron.), knows absolutely nothing about actually building anything.

Welders put things together, taking simple shapes, and fusing them together. Watching a man use a TIG welder is watching an artist. To look at a well laid bead, is beauty in steel, and to know that he is improving the world is humbling.

Tell me again how this life support system for a dry hole has made the world better.

10 posted on 11/12/2015 1:18:37 AM PST by jonascord (It's sarcasm unless otherwise noted... This time, it's not.)
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Avery Kolers is a whiner. Has she ever had to fend for herself in the private sector?


12 posted on 11/12/2015 1:44:06 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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Reading the comments at Salon is a glimpse into an alternate universe, a truly dark and vile place.


14 posted on 11/12/2015 2:00:37 AM PST by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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Sounds like someone’s panties are in a wad because Rubio told the dead-on truth that occupational specialties have become de-emphasized in this country. We have far more than enough self-styled philosophers.


15 posted on 11/12/2015 2:01:30 AM PST by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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This guy can’t write, sounds like a drug induced rage


16 posted on 11/12/2015 2:26:20 AM PST by dila813
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Welders produce a useful product. Philosophers produce BS.


21 posted on 11/12/2015 3:03:55 AM PST by ImNotLying
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Well the headline is right. Rubio is ignorant. He is also GOPe.


22 posted on 11/12/2015 3:13:41 AM PST by Menthops (If you are reading this..... the GOPe hates you!)
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Rubio has earned one ATTABOY for this one LOL


23 posted on 11/12/2015 3:48:19 AM PST by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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What is the AVERAGE salary for all philosophers?

What is the AVERAGE salary for all welders?

24 posted on 11/12/2015 4:13:48 AM PST by bankwalker (In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.)
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A philosopher that does not know welders “join” things ain’t too smart, IMHO.


26 posted on 11/12/2015 4:27:29 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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If Trump is able to send the ILLEGAL Welders back home, I can promise you the remaining American Welders will do just fine, and it wouldn’t surprise me to find this babe sending her kids to Welding School, as opposed to having them study Fraud in her basement, into their 40s.


29 posted on 11/12/2015 5:01:22 AM PST by BobL ( (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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wide range of diseconomies that have funneled virtually all gains from the recovery into the pockets of the wealthiest American

Well at least this Leftist here got a single fact correct. The O regimes crony capitalism pretending to be "stimulus" spending did nothing to restore the US Economy, it merely made his fat cat campaign donors richer.

30 posted on 11/12/2015 5:28:21 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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This “philosopher” keeps discussing a concept “social worth” that does not exist.

For it to exist it must be measurable and constant. That is, what one person sees as the “social worth” of anything must be what everyone sees as the “social worth” of that same thing.

Since what he sees as having “social worth” is what I see as having no value what so ever, even having negative value, therefore “social worth” becomes merely another way to say “opinion”.

In my opinion, this guy’s “social worth” is the same as that of used toilet paper.


32 posted on 11/12/2015 6:31:43 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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Consider this argument for the value of philosophy from one of the strongest advocates for liberty and freedom in the twentieth century:

“You have no choice about the necessity to integrate your observations, your experiences, your knowledge into abstract ideas, i.e., into principles. Your only choice is whether these principles are true or false, whether they represent your conscious, rational convictions—or a grab-bag of notions snatched at random, whose sources, validity, and consequences you do not know, notions which, more often than not, you would drop like a hot potato if you knew.”

(Ayn Rand, “Philosophy: Who Needs It”)


33 posted on 11/12/2015 6:43:15 AM PST by DrPretorius
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