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Ted Cruz Wins the Night
National Review ^ | November 11, 2015 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 11/11/2015 6:18:36 AM PST by Isara

Ted Cruz had a terrific night. He had a stand-out answer on immigration and wages, and made his own fortune by getting into an argument with John Kasich on bank bailouts, enunciating the anti-bailout position forcefully and repeatedly (although I don't really believe he wouldn't bail out a major financial institution in the midst of a financial panic if he were president). He was pointed, eloquent, and, of course, very conservative.

Marco Rubio was very good, as well. But I thought Rubio was slightly better than Cruz last time, and that Cruz was slightly better this time. Rubio just felt a little off. Journalists were complaining on Twitter about how canned Rubio is, and truth be told, he is during these events (as are Cruz and Carly Fiorina). The trick is hiding it and tonight Rubio seemed to be more obviously downloading speech fragments than in other debates. That said, he won the exchange with Rand Paul on foreign policy, ably defended his child tax credit, and didn't have an affirmatively bad moment.

Both Cruz and Rubio are highly capable of defending themselves. You really never have to worry about them in an exchange, and that quality will stand them in good stead going forward.

Ben Carson was pleasant. He predictably hit the question about his bio out of the park and brought up politically correctness at the end. He, once again, wasn't commanding on the substance, but it hasn't mattered to this point.

Donald Trump was largely subdued, although he perked up to slap down Kasich and broadcast how he has let Fiorina get under his skin with his complaint about her interrupting that got boos. He obviously knows nothing about the TPP that he so passionately opposes, and Rand Paul showed him up on that. He's also at sea on foreign policy. Overall, a more respectable, but still poor showing.

Jeb Bush was definitely better, but just OK. He seemed to lose momentum as the night went on. But it should be enough to stem a potential donor panic.

Carly Fiorina had several nice riffs, and a cutting line at Trump's expense (she met Vladimir Putin and not in a green room).

Rand Paul allowed himself to be Rand Paul. It was his best debate, even if it's hard to see it helping him much.

John Kasich, irritable and out of step with the party, may end up buying himself a ticket to the undercard.

Speaking of that, Chris Christie was the best performer in the early debate, even if he didn't attempt to defend his New Jersey record from Bobby Jindal's repeated jibes. Christie effectively brushed Jindal off, but the Louisiana governor certainly got across the message that he wanted to-that he disdains big government Republicans.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2016debates; bush; carson; christie; cruz; debate; debates; elections; fiorina; jindal; kasich; rubio; tcruz; tedcruz; trump
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To: Jewbacca

“Why blacks (the group hit hardest by illegal competition) would ever vote for a Democrat is beyond me.”

Welfare.


21 posted on 11/11/2015 6:31:07 AM PST by Uncle Miltie ("The bipartisan project is to destroy conservatism" .. "Cruz is a thoroughbred conservative." - Rush)
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To: Sacajaweau

In an interview with Cavuto afterwards, Cruz said it was silly for Kasich to suggest that the depositors would lose because they have depositer insurance. He is correct. He probably assumes that Kasich is more knowledgeable, especially since he worked in banking.


22 posted on 11/11/2015 6:31:36 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: jpsb

Yeah, Cruz is GOPe.

< / delusion >


23 posted on 11/11/2015 6:32:02 AM PST by Uncle Miltie ("The bipartisan project is to destroy conservatism" .. "Cruz is a thoroughbred conservative." - Rush)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Kasich, Bush and Paul need to be gone. They add nothing.


24 posted on 11/11/2015 6:32:52 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Speak TRUZ to power / Tell the TRUZ / No more lies; we want the TRUZ.)
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To: Sacajaweau
He would let Bank of America fail??? Don’t the government insure the deposits?

Yes and yes.

If Bank of America failed, all of the depositors would have their funds (up to $250,000 worth, the FDIC insured limit) transferred to another bank of their choice by the Federal Reserve.

But Bank of America would be no more.

25 posted on 11/11/2015 6:32:59 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: Isara

It seemed to me that Rubio had all his answers memorized. He was completely canned.


26 posted on 11/11/2015 6:33:15 AM PST by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: pgkdan

I agree...Rubio looked programmed.


27 posted on 11/11/2015 6:35:03 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Mr. K

Rubie absoulutely cannot be trusted. His stands on TPP, immigration and it seems he wants a new outlandish military so he can send the all over the world are the three biggies for me.


28 posted on 11/11/2015 6:35:48 AM PST by biff
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To: Sacajaweau
He would let Bank of America fail??? Don’t the government insure the deposits?

All banks contribute to a fund which is administered by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation.

If the FDIC should run dry, only then is the federal government liable.

29 posted on 11/11/2015 6:36:08 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: . IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Isara

From your mouth to God’s ear!


30 posted on 11/11/2015 6:36:54 AM PST by basil ( God bless the USA!)
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly. The banks (stockholders) gained at the expense of the taxpayers. I don’t think the banks were treated fairly in the events leading up to the crisis ( gov’t forcing them to give credit to people that can’t pay it back). Another example of the gov’t screwing up and the people paying for it.


31 posted on 11/11/2015 6:37:16 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Isara

Marco Rubio was very good, as well.??

Funny, it looked to me like Rubio was fighting for Jeb’s place as Hillary’s Running Mate.


32 posted on 11/11/2015 6:37:41 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: 5thGenTexan
Insuring the deposits does not in and of itself prevent a bank from failing. It just guarantees the depositors get their money back when the failed bank’s assets are liquidated.

Yup, its exactly what Cruz said to Kasich when Kasich accused Cruz of wanting the "little guys" to lose everything. The depositors do lose but not everything.
33 posted on 11/11/2015 6:39:33 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Lowry is a GOPe twit. While I prefer Cruz by a large margin, the comment about Trump “knowing nothing” about the TPP was asinine. In one sense Lowry was almost right - nobody outside of the negotiators really has a full grasp of that nearly 6,000 page monstrosity. I’m sure Lowry has no grasp of it at all and hasn’t read it, so he isn’t in any position to say what anyone else knows or doesn’t know. Not one candidate on that stage has read the agreement, but all of the major candidates (except, maybe, Carson) have been briefed. I have no doubt that Trump understands it far better than Ritchie Lowry, and Cruz and Paul probably know the most about it. You can be sure that buried in the nearly 6k pages are sovereignty stealing provisions and a lot of crony capitalist dreck.


34 posted on 11/11/2015 6:41:19 AM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: ClearCase_guy
RE: Kasich, Bush and Paul need to be gone...

Agreed, but maybe Jeb! is a helpful distraction for GOPe. Let them sink their money into his inevitable loss while the rest of us decide on a winner.

35 posted on 11/11/2015 6:41:54 AM PST by Missouri gal
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To: Rusty0604
I don't think the banks were treated fairly in the events leading up to the crisis ( gov't forcing them to give credit to people that can't pay it back).

Also a good point.
36 posted on 11/11/2015 6:44:48 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: Jewbacca
[Cruz] made the clear point that illegal immigration is an economic issue and is the cause for lower-skill wages being depressed.

If illegals are an economic/wages issue, it follows that the situation cannot be corrected by leaving them in place.

The clear inference is a policy of deportation -- initially, the encouragement of self-deportation.

37 posted on 11/11/2015 6:57:03 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: . IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Isara

38 posted on 11/11/2015 6:58:48 AM PST by Isara
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To: Isara



39 posted on 11/11/2015 7:01:27 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: jpsb

“I see the voice of GOPe (National Review) is still pushing their stealth candidate. Ted Cruz can be relied upon to continue the ruling classes’ globalist agenda.”
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Wow, if you think the (in recent years) voice of the GOPe is supporting Ted Cruz...I want some of what you’ve been drinking.


40 posted on 11/11/2015 7:01:35 AM PST by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose! Does TG have to be an ass every day?)
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