Donald Trump, Carly Fiorina and the Republican quest to know Vladimir Putin

Washington Post ^ | November 11, 2015 | Adam Taylor

[McGruff]

During Tuesday's Republican debate, Donald Trump repeated his claim that if he became president he would strive to work with Russia's leader, Vladimir Putin. The American billionaire went so far as to suggest he supported the Russian president's intervention in Syria, adding that he understood Putin as "I got to know him very well because we were both on '60 Minutes,' we were stablemates, and we did very well that night."

Trump's friendly message to the Russian leader received a rebuke from another candidate, Carly Fiorina, who explained that she would not work with Putin. "I have met him as well, not in a green room for a show, but in a private meeting," she said in a line that was greeted with laughter and applause.

[McGruff]

Ok, Carly what did you discuss with Putin?

[cripplecreek]

I’m kind of curious about Trump’s green room meeting with Putin since Trump was interviewed in NY and Putin was interviewed in Moscow.

[basil]

Some days I get up and think I’m somehow in a parallel universe.

This is one of those days.

[MNJohnnie]

Syria was a Russian Client state since the 1950s. The Russian Navy has had basing right in Syria since the 1960s. Syria is not in the US sphere of influence. We should of never gotten involved in Syria.

The question now is “what is our exit strategy for Obama/Clinton failed Syria adventure?”

Apparently most of our GOP candidates think the answer is to double down on the Obama/Clinton failure and “confront Putin”

That Trump is the only one who realizes we have are going to have to work with Putin is a point in his favor.

[ETL]

"Putin said Stalin deserves statues in his honor"

http://en.ria.ru/russia/20131219/185734707/Putin-Says-Stalin-No-Worse-Than-Cunning-Oliver-Cromwell.html
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"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the [20th] century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...

"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'..."

"The more I see and read about Mr. Putin, in power since 1999, and his 'managed democracy,' the more apprehensive I become about the future of Russia and the safety of its neighbors.

If Putin believes that the dissolution of the Soviet Union into 15 independent states represents the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century,' then it follows that Putin might well believe he should do something to repair the loss..."

http://web.archive.org/web/20090415000000*/http://www.hooverdigest.org/053/beichman.html
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"The demise of the Soviet Union was the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century'," Putin said in 2005.

http://www.thetrumpet.com/article/11102.30640.0.0/asia/moscow-puts-the-soviet-squeeze-on-neighbor-nations
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"'The Black Book of Communism,'; a scholarly accounting of communism's crimes, counts about 94 million murdered by the supposed champions of the common man (20 million for the Soviets alone), and some say that number is too low."

Forgetting the Evils of Communism: The amnesia bites a little deeper
By Jonah Goldberg, August 2008:
http://web.archive.org/web/20100711090651/http://article.nationalreview.com/365528/forgetting-the-evils-of-communism/jonah-goldberg
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[PlateOfShrimp]

I wasn’t able to watch the debate, but I saw this clip afterwards. It sure sounded to me like someone chortled when she said “private meeting”. Am I the only one who thought the audience at that point was laughing at her, not with her?

The funny thing is that one of the pundits later showed a clip of her describing her meeting as a “green room” thing.

[ETL]

Czech Defense Minister: "Russia is Orchestrating Muslim Invasion of Europe"

Posted By: TRT NEWS October 31, 2015

Prague, Czech Republic - Russia is orchestrating, coordinating, and funding the ongoing invasion of European countries by Muslim, military-age males, the Czech Defense Minister shared with IDNES.cz on October 10th, 2015.

According to Martin Stropnicky, the Defense Minister for the Czech Republic, he was informed by the Hungarian Defense Minister Istvan Simicsko that Russia was financing the busing of military-age Islamic males across the borders of the Balkan nations.

-snip-

Speculation has been rife for some time now that Russian forces have been plotting a ground invasion to retake the former satellite states of the Soviet Union, and eventually capturing the European capitals.

The overwhelming of these nations' borders, social services, and law enforcement mechanisms would destabilize and weaken the internal security controls when Russian military units would make their move.

"The Russian Federation does not desire a unified and cohesive European Union," Stropnicky said in the interview. "I do not envision the current invasion ceasing anytime soon."

As the Russian Federation has modernized its military forces and transformed its military theory to a hybrid combination of special forces, infantry, and airpower, it has made impressive advances in its latest generation tank and fighter jet, both of which purportedly claim to be superior to American counterparts. ..."

http://www.therussianthreat.com/czech-defense-minister-russia-is-orchestrating-muslim-invasion-of-europe/

[mylife]

Doh!

[ETL]

Aug 2015...

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Russian build-up in Syria part of secret deal with Iran's Quds Force leader

September 11, 2015
Jennifer Griffin, Lucas Tomlinson
FoxNews.com

As the Pentagon warily eyes a Russian military build-up in Syria, Western intelligence sources tell Fox News that the escalated Russian presence began just days after a secret Moscow meeting in late July between Iran's Quds Force commander - their chief exporter of terror - and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Fox News has learned Quds head Qassem Soleimani and Putin discussed such a joint military plan for Syria at that meeting, an encounter first reported by Fox News in early August. ..."

The Quds Force is the international arm of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, involved in exporting terrorism to Iran's proxies throughout the Middle East including Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Yemen. ..."

Officials who have monitored the build-up say they've seen more than 1,000 Russian combatants - some of them from the same plainclothes Special Forces units who were sent to Crimea and Ukraine. Some of these Russian troops are logistical specialists and needed for security at the expanding Russian bases.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/11/russian-build-up-in-syria-part-secret-deal-with-irans-quds-force-leader/
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Pro-Hezbollah Paper: Russia, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah Form Alliance

Sept 23, 2015

A prominent pro-Hezbollah newspaper in Lebanon reported Tuesday that Russia and the terrorist organization have formed an alliance and will fight together in Syria. "The parties to the alliance are the states of Russia, Iran, Syria, and Iraq, with Lebanon's Hezbollah as the fifth party,"

Al-Akhbar Editor in Chief Ibrahim al-Amin wrote. The pact would be called the "4+1 alliance", a pun based on the P5+1 that negotiated the nuclear deal with Iran. Hezbollah is a proxy of Iran based in Lebanon and Moscow has been working with Tehran to save Bashar al-Assad's regime, even sending men and weapons to Syria.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/09/22/report-russia-partners-with-hezbollah.html

[jpsb]

"That Trump is the only one who realizes we have are going to have to work with Putin is a point in his favor."

Exactly correct and let us not forget that the Crimea has been a Russian vessel state since the days of Catrina the Great and that Russias' largest naval base is located there. Anyone that thinks Russia would allow the Crimina to fall into NATOs' hands is delusional.

[cripplecreek]

Putin, Trump open new '60 Minutes' season on CBS

Charlie Rose traveled to Moscow for the two-hour meeting with the Russian leader, who talks about Syria, the Ukraine and his image in America. The Putin interview will lead the season-opening broadcast of the venerable newsmagazine, followed by Scott Pelley's attempt to pin down Trump on issues.

[mac_truck]

Im kind of curious about Trumps green room meeting with Putin since Trump was interviewed in NY and Putin was interviewed in Moscow.

Putin was in New York City for the UN general assembly meeting when he was interviewed by Charlie Rose.

[MaskedMan]

I'm kind of curious about Trump's green room meeting with Putin since Trump was interviewed in NY and Putin was interviewed in Moscow.

It's quite possible that they had the 2 "green rooms" connected via video conference link so that the two of them could "meet".

[cymbeline]

I think Trump views Putin as an interesting challenge, someone who he could apply the art of the deal to.

[cornelis]

Somewhere between Rubio’s Gangsta Putin and Carly’s Private Putin is where diplomacy might obtain US interests.

[mac_truck]

I stand corrected...it was Moscow.

[DJ MacWoW]

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[Gratia]

The real issue is simple.

Carly said she would not talk to Putin because the United States is in a position of weakness versus Russia. This implies no discussion with Putin until we overcome our “weakness.”

Trump said he would talk to Putin and hopes they could get along. Trump says that he is happy with the fact that Russia is attacking ISIS.

Which is more reasonable and realistic?

What would a leader do?

[FreeReign]

I’m kind of curious about Trump’s green room meeting with Putin since Trump was interviewed in NY and Putin was interviewed in Moscow.

So both Carly and Trump fibbed about their meeting with Putin?

One said she wasn't in a green room but was.

The other said he was in a green room but wasn't.

[McGruff]

Where does Trump say he met with Putin is a green room? Carly said he did. Apparently she was the misinformed one. *shocked*

She tried the old “I know Ronald Reagan and you are no Ronald Reagan” gotcha moment. And failed.