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Dems search for fountain of youth
The Hill ^ | November 9, 2015 | Niall Stanage

Posted on 11/09/2015 4:29:50 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Democrats lean heavily on young voters to win elections, but their leading candidates for the White House are 68-year-old Hillary Clinton and 74-year-old Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

The two other Democrats who were often implored to enter the race are Vice President Biden, 72, and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), 66.

Democrats are led on Capitol Hill by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) and Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (Nev.) - who are both 75.

Pelosi's top two lieutenants are 76-year-old Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (Md.) and 75-year-old Rep. James Clyburn (S.C.). In comparison, Reid's expected successor as Democratic leader in the next Congress is a relative spring chicken: Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.) is 64.

The age of the Democratic Party's lynchpins is a sensitive subject as the party prepares for life after 54-year-old President Obama.

Since Obama's election in 2008, Democrats have wracked up net losses amounting to more than 900 seats in state legislatures, almost 70 House seats, 13 Senate seats and 12 governors' mansions.

That has left Democrats with a seemingly thin bench as the party seeks to hold on to the Oval Office in part with appeals that it is the natural home for millennials.

It also stands in contrast with a Republican Party suddenly energized by an infusion of reliative youth. The GOP's leaders now include 45-year-old Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.). Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), 44, is now a leading contender for the GOP's presidential nomination, as is 44-year-old Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas).

Discussions about younger Democrats who can perform in the glare of the national spotlight tend to begin and end with 48-year-old Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.), 46-year-old Sen. Cory Booker (N.J.) and a pair of 41-year-old twins: Rep. Joaquin Castro (Texas) and Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julian Castro.

Julian Castro is frequently mentioned as a possible vice presidential candidate on a Clinton-led ticket.

Other relatively youthful Democrats have their fans, including Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx (44), Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed (46) and California Attorney General and U.S. Senate candidate Kamala Harris (51). But they are seen only as promising prospects at this point.

Republican strategist Ford O'Connell insists that Democrats have "no bench." He also asserted that the paucity of maturing talent was a consequence of the election losses Democrats have suffered since the 2008 high point of Obama's election.

Such losses "could hurt them for more than a decade," according to O'Connell.

But outside experts who acknowledge the scale of Democratic losses don't think the implications are so dire.

"Much of the Democratic bench in the states has been thinned by several punishing election cycles," said Cal Jillson, a political science professor at Southern Methodist University. "Nonetheless young voters are attracted to the Democratic message of inclusion and willingness to spend on education and health care. Alternatively, the Republican message strikes many younger voters, especially single women, as harsh and stingy."

That may be why Democrats seem relatively relaxed about the age question.

"One of the realities of the current situation is that [Marco] Rubio is, let's face it, a fresh face, young, handsome - and that is all a good thing. The closest thing we have in the presidential race, and he's not playing very well, is [Martin] O'Malley," said Democratic strategist Brad Bannon, referring to the Democratic former governor of Maryland.

"But the problem for the Republicans, is that young voters hate the Republican Party - I mean, they really do," Bannon added. "They see the Republican Party as a party that wants to turn back the clock."

While Bannon has a partisan interest in making that claim, there is data to back up his point, especially on social issues. Same-sex marriage - a concept vigorously opposed by most of the Republicans currently running for president - is backed by 70 percent of voters born in 1981 or later, according to a report earlier this year from the Pew Research Center.

When Obama was reelected in 2012, exit polls showed him winning voters between the ages of 18 and 29 by 23 percentage points (60 percent - 37 percent) and losing those over the age of 65 by 12 percentage points, (44 percent - 56 percent).

Other Democrats, as well as independent experts, note that the mere age of a candidate is a poor predictor of which age-bands he or she can draw support from.

"What demographic sector is most enchanted with Bernie Sanders, who is no spring chicken?" Boston University professor Tobe Berkovitz asked wryly, alluding to the Vermont senator's strong support among young liberals.

"Sanders has racked up a disproportionate share of the youth vote," a writer for The New Yorker mused back in August. "Why? Outwardly, he does not seem like a particularly hip or youthful guy. Sanders is nearly seventy-four, dresses like Willy Loman, and can name, from direct memory, the Dodgers' lineup in the year 1951." (Sanders turned 74 a few weeks later.)

Mark Mellman, a Democratic pollster who is also a columnist for The Hill, suggested that Sanders's appeal to young voters was not all that anomalous.

"There is nothing to say an older candidate can't attract younger supporters," he noted.

Mellman also noted another fact, upon which many Democrats are relying: concerns about a lack of depth on any party's bench can be put to rest by the passage of time.

"Eight years ago, nobody was sitting here saying Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio were going to be running for president," he said. "These things change over time, sometimes quite dramatically."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; cruz; democraticparty; democratnominee; elections; hillary; rubio
Another warning from the Left:

Slate: The Insurgent - Ted Cruz is leading the most ambitious national campaign no one sees coming

"........What's important is that Cruz is well positioned to take advantage of the "ifs" that go his way and survive the ones that don't. And there is a decent chance that, in three months, both Rubio and Cruz will stand as the strongest candidates from their sides of the Republican Party.

In which case, we have a grinding, difficult Republican primary. And, like Obama was, it's one Cruz is prepared to win. I said, at the beginning, that Ted Cruz could become president. The calculation is straightforward: If Cruz can fight to a matchup with Rubio, he has a strong shot at the nomination. If he wins that, then-by definition-the White House is possible. And before you assure yourself that Cruz could never beat the eventual Democratic nominee, consider this: Only one candidate in 50 years has won a third consecutive term for their party. If the economy is a little weak, and people are unhappy, then yes: Ted Cruz could be president."

1 posted on 11/09/2015 4:29:51 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

All the best Democrat political talent is in the bottom of the dumpster behind the Abortion Clinic.


2 posted on 11/09/2015 4:36:43 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I don’t think age really matters, what should be pointed out more is that Democraps are so hellbent on getting communists into power that they would rather run these two half dead Stalinist morons Hitlery and Sanders rather than take a chance on a fresh face or someone who is moderate. No no no, they got to have longtime harcore commies above all else.


3 posted on 11/09/2015 4:39:35 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (B. Hussein Obama: 20 acts of Treason and counting.)
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If you elect a 74 year old as President
You want to have a competent Vice-President standing in the wings
or you get Arkancide for the power-hungry !
4 posted on 11/09/2015 4:39:49 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (The GOPe and Karl Rove got Obama elected twice. .. How'd that work out for ya ?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

In my opinion, Trump and Cruz are the only candidates that small government conservatives will support. BUT, there is no way on God’s earth, the Republican Party will allow, much less support either as their candidate.
That gives the party of LBJ free rein to elect anyone they wish.
Hell, the Democrats could win this election with 92 year old, terminally ill Jimmy Carter if that is their choice.


5 posted on 11/09/2015 4:47:13 AM PST by Tupelo (Honest men go to Washington, but honest men do not stay in Washington.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
More likely to have Trump as POTUS. I do see Cruz as VPOTUS.

I hope I get something out of the money I donated to the Cruz campaign. But Trump is more likely to win the primary.

And a Trump/Cruz ticket is one I can support and vote for.

/johnny

6 posted on 11/09/2015 4:51:33 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; GOPJ; Jane Long; stephenjohnbanker; Tennessee Nana; Grampa Dave; TADSLOS; ...
Aging Demo/rats IS a problem---but don't insert the ageism
bugaboo into the Dem race b/c the Demo/Rats have that solved.

Hillary and Bernie are both courting 55-years young, battle-hardened
Quentin Tarantino as a VP prick........er, ah....I mean pick.


7 posted on 11/09/2015 4:54:50 AM PST by Liz
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To: Tupelo
Hell, the Democrats could win this election with 92 year old, terminally ill Jimmy Carter if that is their choice.

That is conventional wisdom, and conventional wisdom hasn't done well this cycle.

8 posted on 11/09/2015 4:55:08 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I see you found an article about the presidential election that does not mention Ben Carson or Donald Trump as viable GOP candidates - even though they have been leading the GOP polls by a wide margin all summer long and now deep into the fall.

Some in the establishment media are pretending that Carson and Trump don't exist - as if they could "wish" them away and return to a normal world of Bushes and Clintons.

9 posted on 11/09/2015 4:57:09 AM PST by SamAdams76 (It's time we sent a junkyard dog to Washington to run the low life out)
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To: SamAdams76

I guess that’s because the topic wasn’t about the older candidates.


10 posted on 11/09/2015 5:07:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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11 posted on 11/09/2015 5:20:25 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Of course there are no youthful demoncrats...

The motley group they listed Hitlery, Pelosi, Warren, Ried and Biden as standard practice eat their young.....


12 posted on 11/09/2015 5:22:49 AM PST by nevergore
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

——especially single women,——

at some point after a meal of Ramen noodles in an apartment with the lights off and heat cut back to 65 degrees the single women that insist on a life goal and purpose of making a difference come to a very harsh realization....... it ain’t going to happen

They then reach out submissively for a daddy that can’t knosc them up but will pay some bills

American tragedy


13 posted on 11/09/2015 5:30:02 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trumping.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Prediction: The Dems will look into drafting Ben Affleck and other youngish lefty celebrities.


14 posted on 11/09/2015 6:03:20 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Democrats are running old white liberal elites.

Old white liberal elites who expect to be propped up by large numbers of dependent blacks.

“Young people” are window dressing for the sausage making factory...


15 posted on 11/09/2015 8:05:13 AM PST by GOPJ (policy debates rather then journalist clowns posturing and mugging for their fellow journalistsMNJ.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Democrats are running old white liberal elites.

Old white liberal elites who expect to be propped up by large numbers of dependent blacks.

“Young people” are window dressing for the sausage making factory...(not to mix a metaphor or anything)

16 posted on 11/09/2015 8:05:43 AM PST by GOPJ (policy debates rather then journalist clowns posturing and mugging for their fellow journalistsMNJ.)
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To: Liz
Hillary and Bernie are both courting 55-years young, battle-hardened Quentin Tarantino as a VP prick........er, ah....I mean pick.

Dems are taking us down the rabbit hole...

17 posted on 11/09/2015 8:24:03 AM PST by GOPJ (policy debates rather then journalist clowns posturing and mugging for their fellow journalistsMNJ.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA

Dirty stinking hippies still run the democrats. The 60’s were a blight on America.


18 posted on 11/09/2015 12:34:08 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj

http://youtu.be/F2ZwJiK0fJ0


19 posted on 11/09/2015 12:36:51 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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