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Experts say Syria insurgents used mustard gas on foes near Aleppo
post-gazette.com ^ | November 6, 2015 12:00 AM | Anthony Deutsch / Reuters

Posted on 11/06/2015 6:32:07 AM PST by Trumpinator

Experts say Syria insurgents used mustard gas on foes near Aleppo

November 6, 2015 12:00 AM

By Anthony Deutsch / Reuters

THE HAGUE, Netherlands — Chemical weapons experts have determined that mustard gas was used in a Syrian town where Islamic State insurgents were battling another rebel group, according to a report by an international watchdog seen by Reuters.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cryptofascists; euroweenies; fedtrolls; fsbputin; kerryhawks; kgbputin; kgbputinbuttboy; putinator; putinista; putinstrolls; russia; syria
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Obama almost bombed the govt side over this....

These are the people the CIA are arming with the help of Turkey and the Gulf states.

1 posted on 11/06/2015 6:32:07 AM PST by Trumpinator
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To: Trumpinator
This appears to refer to August of 2014. Two people were exposed so it doesn't make much sense.

The insurgents vs foes?? Which one is the enemy?? All of them!!

2 posted on 11/06/2015 6:38:25 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Trumpinator

Some of Saddam’s leftovers?


3 posted on 11/06/2015 6:51:37 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Trumpinator
The best scenario would be for all of these bastards to kill each other, including your boys the Russians...

OSCE says spots deadly Russian rocket system in Ukraine for first time
Reuters, via Yahoo News ^ | Oct 2, 2015 | Anton Zverev

MOSCOW (Reuters) - International monitors say they have spotted a new kind of Russian weapons system in rebel-held Ukraine this week, possible evidence of Moscow's continued interest in Ukraine even as it focuses on Syria.

The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, which is monitoring a ceasefire in eastern Ukraine, reported that its monitors had seen a mobile TOS-1 'Buratino' weapons system for the first time.

The Buratino is equipped with thermobaric warheads which spread a flammable liquid around a target and then ignite it. It can destroy several city blocks in one strike and cause indiscriminate damage.

Only Russia produces the system and it was not exported to Ukraine before the conflict broke out, according to IHS Jane's Group and the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, which track arms exports.

The OSCE's findings are embarrassing for the Kremlin, which has turned down its rhetoric on Ukraine and shifted attention to Syria, where it has begun air strikes. The report comes before President Vladimir Putin holds talks in Paris on Friday with the leaders of Germany, France and Ukraine on the peace process.

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4 posted on 11/06/2015 6:53:08 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better and safer America)
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To: Trumpinator

Didn’t Sadaam have a pretty big stockpile of mustard gas? Wasn’t there a report of Sadaam’s WMD going to Syria? Nevermind, there’s nothing to see here. Move along...


5 posted on 11/06/2015 6:53:13 AM PST by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Trumpinator
"a recent investigation conducted by Novaya Gazeta, one of the few independent newspapers left in Russia, complicates this cozy tale of counterterrorist cooperation. Based on extensive fieldwork in one village in the North Caucasus, reporter Elena Milashina has concluded that the "Russian special services have controlled" the flow of jihadists into Syria, where they have lately joined up not only with ISIS but other radical Islamist factions.

In other words, Russian officials are adding to the ranks of terrorists which the Russian government has deemed a collective threat to the security and longevity of its dictatorial ally on the Mediterranean, Bashar al-Assad."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/23/russia-s-playing-a-double-game-with-islamic-terror0.html
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Understanding Provocation [Provokatsiya]

March 29, 2014

One of the most powerful tools the Kremlin has in its secret arsenal of Special War is provocation, what they call provokatsiya.

While Moscow cannot claim to have invented this technique, which has existed as long as there have been secret services, there's no doubt that Russians have perfected the art and taken it to a whole new level of sophistication and deviousness. At times, it can become a strategy all on its own (not always, mind you, with edifying results).

Provokatsiya simply means taking control of your enemies in secret and encouraging them to do things that discredit them and help you. You plant your own agents provocateurs and flip legitimate activists [in this case, dupe actual Jihadis -ETL], turning them to your side.

When you're dealing with extremists to start with, getting them to do crazy, self-defeating things isn't often difficult. In some cases, you simply create extremists and terrorists where they don't exist. This is causing problems in order to solve them, and since the Tsarist period, Russian intelligence has been known to do just that.

While this isn't a particularly nice technique, it works surprisingly well, particularly if you don't care about bloody and messy consequences. ..."

http://20committee.com/2014/03/29/understanding-provocation/
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In other words, it's like starting a fire, or pouring gasoline on a fire, in order to be the 'big hero', being first on the scene to put it out. Except in this case, you get to grab control over the buildings and town you helped 'saved' from the fire you helped to start.

6 posted on 11/06/2015 6:54:49 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better and safer America)
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Czech Defense Minister: "Russia is Orchestrating Muslim Invasion of Europe"

Posted By: TRT NEWS October 31, 2015

Prague, Czech Republic - Russia is orchestrating, coordinating, and funding the ongoing invasion of European countries by Muslim, military-age males, the Czech Defense Minister shared with IDNES.cz on October 10th, 2015.

According to Martin Stropnicky, the Defense Minister for the Czech Republic, he was informed by the Hungarian Defense Minister Istvan Simicsko that Russia was financing the busing of military-age Islamic males across the borders of the Balkan nations.

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Speculation has been rife for some time now that Russian forces have been plotting a ground invasion to retake the former satellite states of the Soviet Union, and eventually capturing the European capitals.

The overwhelming of these nations' borders, social services, and law enforcement mechanisms would destabilize and weaken the internal security controls when Russian military units would make their move.

"The Russian Federation does not desire a unified and cohesive European Union," Stropnicky said in the interview. "I do not envision the current invasion ceasing anytime soon."

As the Russian Federation has modernized its military forces and transformed its military theory to a hybrid combination of special forces, infantry, and airpower, it has made impressive advances in its latest generation tank and fighter jet, both of which purportedly claim to be superior to American counterparts. ..."

http://www.therussianthreat.com/czech-defense-minister-russia-is-orchestrating-muslim-invasion-of-europe/

7 posted on 11/06/2015 6:55:10 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better and safer America)
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From 2014:

Syria chemical weapons: the proof that Assad regime launching chlorine attacks on children

Exclusive: Scientific analysis of samples from multiple gas attacks in Syria shows Assad regime still launching chemical weapons attacks on children...”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10796175/Syria-chemical-weapons-the-proof-that-Assad-regime-launching-chlorine-attacks-on-children.html
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From 2015:

Assad using chemical weapons again? US eyes new allegations, consequences unclear

"Allegations are mounting that the Assad regime has returned to using chemical weapons against Syrian rebels and civilians, nearly two years after the government agreed to dismantle their stockpile. "

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/07/assad-using-chemical-weapons-again-us-eyes-new-allegations-consequences-unclear/

8 posted on 11/06/2015 7:06:25 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better and safer America)
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Your boys are the jihadis. The Russians and the Assad govt are the ones standing in the way between Muslim jihadis and the Christian population. Go pray to Mecca you piece of Muslim.


9 posted on 11/06/2015 7:22:52 AM PST by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Trumpinator

Your a** are the jihadis.


10 posted on 11/06/2015 7:29:17 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better and safer America)
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To: ETL

Anyone who believes Assad used chemical weapons rather than the jihadis is a jihadi sympathizer.


11 posted on 11/06/2015 7:35:07 AM PST by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: ETL

I support whoever kills them. You rather support a jihadi if it goes after the Russians because you are demented that way.


12 posted on 11/06/2015 7:35:51 AM PST by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Rockitz
Didn’t Sadaam have a pretty big stockpile of mustard gas? Wasn’t there a report of Sadaam’s WMD going to Syria? Nevermind, there’s nothing to see here. Move along...

Why do you assume it is decades old stock and not newly manufactured? It is not that difficult to make. It's bleach and ammonia mixed up and placed in a hollow shell.

13 posted on 11/06/2015 7:38:27 AM PST by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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Also sulfur is in the mix there somewhere for mustard gas.


14 posted on 11/06/2015 7:39:55 AM PST by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Trumpinator
The Russians and the Assad govt are the ones standing in the way between Muslim jihadis and the Christian population.

That is only because Obama, who is likely in cahoots with your boy KGB/FSB Putin in his Middle East expansionist agenda, has *intentionally* been weak on going after ISIS in order that the Russians have an excuse to move in and ultimately take over the entire region with all of its invaluable natural and other resources.

It's no wonder you Putinistas all seem to want Trump to be the president.

Ted Cruz:
"We need a coherent plan to address both the specific crisis in Syria and the challenge posed more broadly by Putin's resurgent Russia.

The good news is that America still has options - if our leaders can summon the will to exercise them.

For starters, in Syria we can't double down on the failed strategies that have given Putin his opportunity to intervene.

We are now two years out from President Obama's proposed intervention after al-Assad used chemical weapons against his own people. ..."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/09/opinions/cruz-syria-putin/index.html
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"If we want to actually dismantle ISIS, we need to dramatically change course. We need a real, robust campaign that maximizes our overwhelming air advantage.

We need to focus our efforts not on trying to create friends, but on supporting our real ones, especially the Kurds in Iraq and Syria who have actually had success against ISIS."

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"We can redouble our efforts to develop the defensive weapons that neutralized the offensive Soviet threat -- particularly missile defense, which has seen a 25% budget reduction under Obama, according to an analysis from the conservative Heritage Foundation, and has been constrained by bad arms deals like New START.

We should not only move quickly to install the canceled interceptor sites Putin opposed in Poland and the Czech Republic, but also to develop the next generation of systems that will only increase his discomfiture.

These options do not entail a ground war in Syria, yet would effectively shake us free from the failed policies that have brought us to our current impasse.

These options set us on a new path that puts Putin on notice that the United States is reclaiming our traditional role as leader of the free world."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/09/opinions/cruz-syria-putin/index.html
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"I think it would be a mistake to get involved in the Syrian civil war. There have been voices in Washington eager for us to send our sons and daughters over to fight that civil war for some time. I haven't been one of them. I think the touchstone of U.S. military policy should be protecting the national security of this country."

"What we're seeing Putin in Russia do is a direct response to the profound weakness of Obama over six and a half years.

Putin views Obama as weak, as ineffective, and frankly, as a laughingstock. And, as a result, he is moving in, he is invading his neighbors, like Ukraine, he's kidnapping Estonians, and he's moving into Syria to gain a stronger foothold in the Middle East."

https://www.tedcruz.org/news/icymi-cruz-we-have-no-business-getting-in-the-middle-of-the-syrian-civil-war-goal-should-be-to-defeat-isis/
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"I think that I would probably get along with him [Putin] very well."
-Donald Trump, CBS' Face The Nation, Oct 2015

15 posted on 11/06/2015 7:46:47 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better and safer America)
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To: ETL

“I think that I would probably get along with him [Putin] very well.”
-Donald Trump, CBS’ Face The Nation, Oct 2015


Vote Trump 2016!


16 posted on 11/06/2015 7:49:14 AM PST by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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Incredible that you pro-Russia SOBs are allowed to remain on this site doing what you do.


17 posted on 11/06/2015 7:51:41 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better and safer America)
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To: ETL

That was a pro Trump statement. So now being pro Trump is being pro Russian? How are you not banned from here with your (obviously) multiple aliases is what surpasses me.


18 posted on 11/06/2015 7:53:49 AM PST by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Rockitz

I seem to remember an Iraqi army general giving an interview and stating that he had personally been in charge of loading stores of mustard gas onto planes that flew out of Iraq.

He said he found out that all chemical weapons had been flown to Syria.
That interview was on FOX one day only.
The other news media never did cover it to the best of my knowledge.

Like you said.....nothing to see.
The MSM didn’t report it so it never happened.


19 posted on 11/06/2015 8:08:37 AM PST by oldvirginian (American by birth, Southern by the grace of a loving God and Virginian because Jesus loves me.)
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To: Trumpinator

Does anyone know who’s fighting whom and why? Do they know themselves?


20 posted on 11/06/2015 8:09:35 AM PST by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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