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CIA, Saudis To Give "Select" Syrian Militants Weapons Capable Of Downing Commercial Airliners
Zero Hedge ^ | 5 Nov 2015 | Tyler

Posted on 11/05/2015 7:45:55 AM PST by amorphous

Wednesday brought a veritable smorgasbord of "new" information about the Russian passenger jet which fell out of the sky above the Sinai Peninsula last weekend.

First there was an audio recording from ISIS' Egyptian affiliate reiterating that they did indeed “down” the plane. Next, the ISIS home office in Raqqa (or Langley or Hollywood) released a video of five guys sitting in the front yard congratulating their Egyptian “brothers” on the accomplishment.

Then the UK grounded air traffic from Sharm el-Sheikh noting that the plane "may well" have had an "explosive device" on board.

Finally, US media lit up with reports that according to American "intelligence" sources, ISIS was probably responsible for the crash.

Over the course of the investigation, one question that's continually come up is whether militants could have shot the plane down. Generally speaking, the contention that ISIS (or at least IS Sinai) has the technology and/or the expertise to shoot down a passenger jet flying at 31,000 feet has been discredited by "experts" and infrared satellite imagery.

But that's nothing the CIA can't fix.

With the Pentagon now set to deploy US ground troops to Syria (and indeed they may already be there, operating near Latakia no less), Washington is reportedly bolstering the supply lines to "moderate" anti-regime forces at the urging of (guess who) the Saudis and Erdogan.

(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Russia; Syria
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1 posted on 11/05/2015 7:45:55 AM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous

Thanks John McCain and all the Republicans who either support or are not opposing this. In other words, ALL the Republicans!


2 posted on 11/05/2015 7:47:29 AM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

More from the WSJ which the article quotes:

The U.S. and its regional allies agreed to increase shipments of weapons and other supplies to help moderate Syrian rebels hold their ground and challenge the intervention of Russia and Iran on behalf of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, U.S. officials and their counterparts in the region said.

The deliveries from the Central Intelligence Agency, Saudi Arabia and other allied spy services deepen the fight between the forces battling in Syria, despite President Barack Obama’s public pledge to not let the conflict become a U.S.-Russia proxy war.

Saudi officials not only pushed for the White House to keep the arms pipeline open, but also warned the administration against backing away from a longstanding demand that Mr. Assad must leave office.

In the past month of intensifying Russian airstrikes, the CIA and its partners have increased the flow of military supplies to rebels in northern Syria, including of U.S.-made TOW antitank missiles, these officials said. Those supplies will continue to increase in coming weeks, replenishing stocks depleted by the regime’s expanded military offensive.

An Obama administration official said the military pressure is needed to push Mr. Assad from power.

“Assad is not going to feel any pressure to make concessions if there is no viable opposition that has the capacity, through the support of its partners, to put pressure on his regime,” the official said.

In addition to the arms the U.S. has agreed to provide, Saudi and Turkish officials have renewed talks with their American counterparts about allowing limited supplies of shoulder-fire man-portable air-defense systems, or Manpads, to select rebels. Those weapons could help target regime aircraft, in particular those responsible for dropping barrel bombs, and could also help keep Russian air power at bay, the officials said.

Mr. Obama has long rebuffed such proposals, citing the risk to civilian aircraft and fears they could end up in the hands of terrorists. To reduce those dangers, U.S. allies have proposed retrofitting the equipment to add so-called kill switches and specialized software that would prevent the operator from using the weapon outside a designated area, said officials in the region briefed on the option.

U.S. intelligence agencies are concerned that a few older Manpads may already have been smuggled into Syria through supply channels the CIA doesn’t control.


3 posted on 11/05/2015 7:49:58 AM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous

uh...ya....cuz Bambi’s success at assessing allegiance in the Mid-East has been so insightful to date....

...and then there’s this neat new finger print safety that only allows the vetted shooter fire the weapon.....

...oh....wait...”not yet” you say?


4 posted on 11/05/2015 7:55:19 AM PST by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: amorphous
We are backing the wrong side in Syria AND we are risking a shooting war with Russia. The only thing missing here is some direct action to harm Israel.

Oh, wait. Obama just transferred some F-15’s to the US base in Turkey. Those aren't ground attack planes. Those are fighter planes. What are they there for? My bet is to stop Israel from striking Iranian nuclear sites.

5 posted on 11/05/2015 7:58:13 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: amorphous

So come on down to Honest John's Weapon Depot. No questions asked.


6 posted on 11/05/2015 7:58:43 AM PST by McGruff (Trump-Cruz 2016. Make America Great Again.)
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To: amorphous

The American people did not elect the GOP
to arm al Qaeda and coverup the links between
the White Mosque and al Qaeda. ... or did they?


7 posted on 11/05/2015 8:00:26 AM PST by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: amorphous

“U.S. intelligence agencies are concerned that a few older Manpads may already have been smuggled into Syria through supply channels the CIA doesn’t control.”

OH, they mean like the Department of State.


8 posted on 11/05/2015 8:00:50 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: amorphous; WilliamIII
houlder-fire man-portable air-defense systems, or Manpads

Which have a top range of about 4800 feet. They are designed to hit ground attack aircraft and helicopters

If they are going to write stupid conspiracy theories, these wack job authors need to actually base it in fact. There are no weapon being supplied to the Syrians that can reach an airliner at 30,000 feet.

Wasting time on this sort of nonsense merely discredits everyone else who points out real wrong doing by the US government.

9 posted on 11/05/2015 8:05:38 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: amorphous

What could possibly go wrong?

After all - Arming the Afghanistan Mujaheddin with advanced weapons worked out so well...


10 posted on 11/05/2015 8:06:01 AM PST by Iron Munro (<p> The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: Leaning Right

The F-15 also has a ground combat role.


11 posted on 11/05/2015 8:06:19 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: amorphous

So Saudi Arabia is aring the terrorist.

Astounding they are admitting this as if it is no big deal.


12 posted on 11/05/2015 8:11:30 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Iron Munro

“What could possibly go wrong?” ^ 10


13 posted on 11/05/2015 8:13:26 AM PST by Uncle Miltie ("The bipartisan project is to destroy conservatism" .. "Cruz is a thoroughbred conservative." - Rush)
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To: amorphous

If the DIA has “plans” to give them AA missiles, then that means they already have.


14 posted on 11/05/2015 8:14:09 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There's a right to gay marriage in the Constitution but there is no right of an unborn baby to life.)
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To: MNJohnnie
From what I've read, the F-15's deployed to Turkey are F-15C's. I'm certainly no expert, but I thought the F-15E's were the ground-attack-capable ones.

Then again, perhaps any F-15 can be modified sufficiently for ground attack.

15 posted on 11/05/2015 8:16:51 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: amorphous

Plus the Iranians are recruiting Afghan immigrants to fight for Assad. What a bloody mess.


16 posted on 11/05/2015 8:18:26 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: amorphous

“CIA, Saudis To Give “Select” Syrian Militants Weapons Capable Of Downing Commercial Airliners”

What could possibly go wrong?


17 posted on 11/05/2015 8:22:29 AM PST by duffee (No money to the Mississippi Republican Party as long as joe ntain it would be mentosef is chairman)
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To: amorphous

Can’t Be! From the guy who got a Nobel Peace Prize for being black?!?


18 posted on 11/05/2015 8:31:54 AM PST by jimmygrace
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To: jimmygrace

He got the Nobel Peace Prize for not being Bush.


19 posted on 11/05/2015 8:32:37 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: amorphous

To make this a more liveable World we need to be rid of the Saudi’s, The regime in control of Iran, Muslim hegemony, the United Nations in its entirety, Democrats, liberals, and Democrat sycophants in the GOPE.

What did I miss?


20 posted on 11/05/2015 8:45:20 AM PST by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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