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Is Ben Carson's campaign one big con?
The Week ^ | 11/4/15 | Paul Waldman

Posted on 11/04/2015 6:18:09 PM PST by Amntn

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To: 867V309

You guys are too funny. This isn’t about hats. You are deflecting from the obvious issue. I could care less if he sells hats. What I do care about is being honest.
So I can assume we won’t be hearing about Donald being completely self funded any longer?


81 posted on 11/04/2015 10:21:18 PM PST by conservativegranny
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To: conservativegranny
"Didn't I mention that the 3.7 million donated was not solicited? I think I did. I also mentioned what the average donation was. I wasn't trying to DO anything except offer information. I'm sorry if I missed the part where he donated the money to charity as he doesn't accept donations. What charity was that?"

Trump never said he would donate his donations to charity. He said he would accept small donations to his campaign from those who wished to donate. He did not solicit them.

He said he would donate the profits from his book to charity.

"I know he has appeared at fundraisers like that auto dealer who ran a fundraiser for him at his mansion in August. Donald Trump appeared and spoke at that event. I don't know how much money they raised if any but Donald did know that people were paying to get in and it didn't seem to bother him any"

The person who ran the event charged $100 per person to cover the costs of the event. I don't believe Trump received anything from it.

"I keep reading how Trump's campaign is self funded. As we can see that is not entirely the case. If the money was accepted and spent by the campaign he is not entirely self funded.'

When he talks about being self funded he is talking about not having super pac's like the rest of the candidates and that his is willing to pay for everything if people chose not to send in donations.

I sent a small donation to his campaign because I think he is doing our country a great service whether he wins or not.

After I made the donation I received a thank you email but have not one request for more money.

On the other hand, I also donated to Cruz and received daily and sometimes multiple emails daily asking for more.

82 posted on 11/04/2015 10:28:20 PM PST by Amntn
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To: the_daug

I am not criticizing Carson. I think political operatives are taking advantage of him and using him to fill their own pockets.


83 posted on 11/04/2015 10:32:24 PM PST by Amntn
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To: WENDLE

I pretty much agree. The guy is off on a two week book signing tour. He’s definitely not going to be the GOP nominee.


84 posted on 11/04/2015 10:40:20 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: conservativegranny
So I can assume we won’t be hearing about Donald being completely self funded any longer?

If a billionaire gets a penny slipped into his coat by a ragamuffin, he's not "completely self funded." Satisfied?


85 posted on 11/04/2015 10:42:42 PM PST by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: conservativegranny
I just ran across a story that said Trump’s campaign is no longer self funded. He is accepting donations.

The article stated that according to FEC filings a vast majority of the money Trump spent this summer (3.7 million in unsolicited donations) came from donors unlike when he had first started campaigning when he spent 1.9 million.

He self funded his campaign when he first started in the spring because he had no supporters then, and esp had no Super Pac.

Your statement "trump's campaign is no longer self funded" is duplicitous at best. His campaign is still self funded and if the donations all dried up tomorrow he'd still stick to his budget and schedule. He has several times said he had 20 million budgeted for ads through september and hasn't used a penny yet, though I think he is starting his first ads this week. A campaign can be both self-funded and accepting of UNsolicited donations.

I am very sensitive about Trump and didn't like your tone... smoochies and luv ya :)

86 posted on 11/04/2015 10:45:08 PM PST by true believer forever (Lord, Give me this mountain.)
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To: Nervous Tick

I wouldn’t say ‘racism’ per se. But I would suggest that it is a form of black privilege wherein many Republican or conservative leaning voters like the fact that he is black and that fits some kind of “hey, we’re not racist” theme to offer up to the populace at large. We’ve had that to some extent with Colin Powell, Ambassador Keyes, and with Representative West, albeit each of these were much more well known.

I don’t have a grudge against him, nor many complaints about him except for his ideas about the Second Amendment and illegal immigration which keep me from voting for him.

The truth is that I believe we wouldn’t even know his name if he were white.


87 posted on 11/05/2015 12:55:24 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Karl Spooner

Thank you


88 posted on 11/05/2015 1:10:57 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: usafa92

Carson’s success actually does make sense to me. Conservative Americans are sick and tired of career politicians, so this is a good opportunity for an outsider to gain some traction. This explains Trump’s support, and there are likely a lot of folks who see Trump as a something of a clown and gravitate to Carson as the best alternative.


89 posted on 11/05/2015 2:22:43 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: HarleyLady27

Once again, you and I agree totally.


90 posted on 11/05/2015 2:50:23 AM PST by ElainaVer
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To: Amntn
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91 posted on 11/05/2015 4:12:54 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Norseman

[...you have a problem with black, right?]

No I do not, I have problem with anyone of any color who uses religious Messianic imagery in any way, shape or form to gain power over the naive.


92 posted on 11/05/2015 4:53:51 AM PST by RetSignman (Obama is the walking, talking middle finger in the face of America)
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To: rockinqsranch
<<>> Anyone with a little bit of common sense has to see that, except the poster doesn't

I like Ben Carson, but will not vote for him either. Though I do hope that the Republican President elect will choose him as his Secretary for Health and Human Services.

93 posted on 11/05/2015 5:22:14 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: catnipman
So, none of the information in the article is factually true, just made up stuff that everyone should ignore?

You know what gave me the clue?

The comment of the poster of the thread in post# 1, "Also see this from Huffington Post:" and the link to it in post# 2

As I said so many times I like Dr Ben Carson but will not vote vor him because I think he would be perfect as Secretary of Health and Human Services

94 posted on 11/05/2015 5:38:53 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Amntn
Before Trump, people used to be much more attuned to sniffing out leftwing bullshit like this article.

Trump harms conservatism by making some people as fawning and gullible as Obama worshipers.

95 posted on 11/05/2015 3:23:21 PM PST by dead ("I'm up to my eyeball in virgin goats!" - Mullah Omar)
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To: Amntn

“The person who ran the event charged $100 per person to cover the costs of the event. I don’t believe Trump received anything from it.”

Uh, yes it did. He appeared and spoke at the event. He got the exposure & publicity. Free. What is he doing with this money? He isn’t returning it so because he says he didn’t ask for it he is self funded? Well, uh, I guess thanks everyone for the new definitions of self-funding. It’s sort of like when someone wants to go to college but wants to pay their own way but grandpa give them a check even though they said they didn’t need the money. Instead of giving the check back, you cash it and spend it on tuition. Are you still paying your own way?

“On the other hand, I also donated to Cruz and received daily and sometimes multiple emails daily asking for more.”

Of course he is. He is not a wealthy man like Donald Trump is. Should only the very rich run for POTUS? Is that the new requirement? Most candidates have to fundraise.

I donated to Scott Walker when he ran for governor and I’m still getting letters asking for money to cover his presidential campaign debts. That is not unusual in the least nor is there anything wrong with it. And what does Ted Cruz’s fundraising letters have to do with any of this except to try and deflect attention to the fact that Trump is indeed accepting donations and he isn’t giving the money away or returning it which there is nothing wrong with either. But at least be honest about it.


96 posted on 11/05/2015 6:13:37 PM PST by conservativegranny
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To: conservativegranny

You obviously believe what you want to believe with no reasoning involved so I won’t bother trying to reason with you any longer.


97 posted on 11/05/2015 6:17:09 PM PST by Amntn
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To: Amntn

Is that what you were doing?


98 posted on 11/05/2015 6:24:24 PM PST by conservativegranny
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To: true believer forever

Well, well. I really appreciate that information, all new to me.

I was thinking maybe someone like Alan Keyes (and some direct-mail or other? organization he was associated with years ago), might be involved here. It seems like after he retired from being a professional (never-going-to-win) candidate, he went into professional fundraising with some company he? created. My memory fails me now, sadly.

Thank you!


99 posted on 11/07/2015 7:01:59 PM PST by unsycophant
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