Posted on 11/04/2015 5:02:46 AM PST by WhiskeyX
Donald Trump posted a tweet Tuesday featuring a Nazi swastika next to a picture of GOP rival Jeb Bush.
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None dare call it cultism?
agree 100%.
Grow up Trump...geeeeeeeeez
Here’s the problem. People such as me and yourself never stop watching the political game. Millions of people however won’t start paying attention until two days before the GENERAL election which is 363 days away. They will decide whom becomes President. They vote based on characteristics much different than those things that you and I would want. The hope is that we find someone who can CROSS into areas typically considered hostile to our ideology. Trump appeals to a wide range, and he is strong on the only issue that matters... illegal AND legal immigration.
This is where I stand too; Trump is basically serving as a clearinghouse and political shield for Cruz right now so I see no reason to disrupt that (intentional?) symbiotic relationship. Not with constant criticism of Trump at least. Even though he does deserve it from time to time.
In "defense" of Trump (or whoever retweeted the pic of Bush next to a swastika) the pic itself is burried in a larger montage of pictures denetrating Jeb it's very hard to see. Myself I had to look three times to find it. I still can't make out what it says what its message is. So maybe there's a valid comparison there after all. I don't know.
I echo the sentiments of mountn man earlier in the thread though. I too am tiring of the Reality TV that is the Trump campaign. It's nice he gives the leftists fits but enough is enough already; if I were a Trumpeter, I'd be getting tired of having to explain away these types of behaviors. Ted Cruz has all the positives of Trump (not afraid to take it to the media or members of his own party) and at least just as conservative (if not more so). But none of the negatives like incidents such as this from time to time.
It's time to grow up and realize this isn't an episode of "The Apprentice". It's real life not Reality TV.
Are we to understand that you actually would hold the Dear Leader responsible for something he said or did a few months ago or even a few years ago?
Wow! How quaint and charmingly old-fashioned!
Psst: Just between you, me and the fence post, the Dear Leader can do no wrong. Move along, nothing to see here.
The conditional tolerance of Trump that I have is solely in my hopes that he will destroy Jeb Bush and FORCE him out of this race as early as possible. If that happens, then Rubio, Kasich and the other also rans.
It isn’t up to me or anyone else but Trump to defend him. And, he seems to be doing that by himself adequately.
This “why do you support him” and “what would it take for you to not support him....” stuff is crap. Trump hating Crap by those that are distressed and apoplectic that a very significant portion of people no longer believe the lies of the Republican Party.
Bump +1 million
un PC is great....but stupid is stupid.....a clunker of a joke is a clunker, period.
Great, now we have people on FR repeating the DUmmies lies about the Bush family. Don't people realize that this just makes all Republicans look bad? But because Trump said something about it, his cultists take it as gospel.
I’m done “caring about Republicans” because many don’t care about me.
We have an emerging police state, secret trade deals, Republicans calling for open borders, funding of “0bamacare”. Oh, BTW, “Republicans” on the USSC were the deciding vote for homosexual marriage, and 0bamacare.
The Overton window has moved towards tyranny and most of the Republicans have gone along with the Democrats.
FR is not a Reince Prebius, Rovian, Bushie rino establishment sycophant forum.
“Great, now we have people on FR repeating the DUmmies lies about the Bush family. Don’t people realize that this just makes all Republicans look bad?”
Some of the accusations against the Bush Family are lies, some are misleading, and others are accurate. Study the available evidence, analyze it, and make your own judgments. See:
How Bush’s grandfather helped Hitler’s rise to power
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar
‘None dare call it cultism?’
You have lived in an isolated cave for the bulk of this primary cycle? It’s been relentlessly labeled a cult for months on end. It’s like ‘the love that dare not speak its name’; it gets talked to death.
Btw, what if Trump didn’t see the swastika? He retweets hundreds of messages; does he take a magnifying glass to every single one?
There is no subject re Trump on which the detractors will not assume the worst. I have even seen Trump criticized for intervening in a beating being administered with a baseball bat. According to the bashers, Trump stopped the beating in the wrong way. I.e.: no matter what he does, some say he does it wrong.
How are the assumptions re the retweet any different? He says he didn’t see the symbol, and deleted the retweet when it was brought to his attention. You know with absolute, objective certitude that that is a lie...how?
The tweet was not from Trump.
Altough I can see him tweeting a pic of Yeb in a sombrero which is highly appropriate. :-)
Prescott Bush was one of seven directors of Union Banking Corp., a New York investment bank owned by a bank controlled by the Thyssen family, according to recently declassified National Archives documents reviewed by the Associated Press.
Fritz Thyssen was an early financial supporter of Hitler, whose National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazi) Mr. Thyssen believed was preferable to communism. The documents do not show any evidence that Mr. Bush directly aided that effort. His position with Union Banking never was a political issue for Prescott Bush, who was elected to the Senate from Connecticut in 1952.
Reports of Prescott Bush's involvement with the seized bank have been circulating on the Internet for years and have been reported by some mainstream news media. The newly declassified documents provide additional details about the Union Banking-Thyssen connection.
So bascially, Prescott Bush held a cushy position on the board of a bank. One of the members of the family who owned the bank was a Nazi sympathizer who collaborated financially with Hitler.
This is guilt by association--guilt ascribed to someone not because of any evidence but because of their association with an offender.
Is it known whether Thyssen used bank funds or personal funds to support Hitler? Is the total amount of financial support known?
The Guardian?
That is the U.K.’s “The Nation”. A communist paper. It is pro-Muslim and anti-Israel. It’s writers include the vile George Galloway.
The Guardian article is an indictment of Fritz Thyssen, and the only evidence against Prescott Bush it offers is Bush’s ownership of stock and position on the board of one of the Thyssen family owned banks. Guess what? If you owned stock in IBM in the late 1930s and early 1940s you owned stock in a Nazi collaborator.
Someone here on FR (not me) said:
Me no care. Me want wall.
Union Banking was a subsidiary of a Dutch bank which was owned by the Thyssen family.
Fritz Thyssen was a German. He never lived in the U.S.
Fritz Thyssen originally supported Hitler because Thyssen was virulently anti-communist. As a Catholic, Thyssen began to drift from Hitler and the Nazis when they began repressing Catholics. Thyssen turned against Hitler after Kristallnacht. Thyssen’s company was siezed and nationalized by the Nazis, and Thyssen fled to France. After Germany invaded France, the Vichy government turned Thyssen over to the Nazis and he was sent to the Sachsenhausen and later Dachau concentration camps.
After the war Thyssen was tried and acquitted for being a supporter of the Nazi party.
So this whole thing is about Prescott Bush being on the board of a U.S. subsidiary of a Dutch bank owned by a German businessman who originally supported Hitler but then changed and was put into a concentration camp as a result.
Thanks. So the money evidently didn’t come from the American bank.
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